Manhattan +Hatzolah Dispute+

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    Manhattan +Hatzolah Dispute+ At 19 Pitt Street Hatzolah requesting all available members to proceed to the 7th Pct station house, due to a dispute involving Hatzolah members and PD, one Hatzolah member under arrest.

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    U/D: 21:23
    The dispute was at a EDP call, when FDNY requested everyone to leave the scene, and one member refused.

    U/D: 23:42
    He is being released right now.

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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    A member of a volunteer ambulance corps was taken into custody by police Monday night after he interfered with a response to an emotionally disturbed elderly woman in a Lower East Side apartment, a police source said.

    According to the source, the ambulance service, known as Hatzolah, arrived at 575 Grand St. about 7:55 p.m. in response to a woman acting irrationally, possibly suffering from Alzheimer’s disease.

    Police officers, who were also called to the scene along with paramedics from the fire department, told the members of the ambulance corps that they were handling the situation.

    At that point, one of the members of the Hatzolah ambulance became “extremely indignant” and demanded to attend to the patient, a police source said.

    During the confrontation, one of the fire-department paramedics on the scene called and reported that “Hatzolah is giving the unit a problem about transport.”

    Despite repeated requests to leave, the Hatzolah member allegedly refused. At one point, he placed his foot in the door, preventing officers from closing it, according to the police source.

    The Hatzolah member, whose name was not released, was taken into custody and moved to the nearby Seventh Precinct. Initially, it appeared the man was going to face charges of disorderly conduct, but after several hours of questioning, no charges or summonses were issued. The matter remained under investigation.

    Members of the Hatzolah, which is run by Orthodox Jews, put out a call requesting all available members to respond to the precinct.

    Paramedics from the fire department were also inside the apartment when the dispute happened.

    A fire department EMS “boss,” a lieutenant, had to respond to the scene, which is unusual for such a routine job.

    Eventually, fire department paramedics transported the patient, whose identity was not released by authorities, to Bellevue Hospital Center.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    JUST LOOK AT ALL THE HATRED FROM THE COPS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT US.
    TRUST THEM WITH YOUR LIFE!

    http://p066.ezboard.com/fnypdrant64609frm1.showMessage?topicID=16006.topic

    yiddish mamma
    yiddish mamma
    19 years ago

    well, as long is what some east side well connected member.

    what would have happen would this have been some young member from W or F for that matter?

    they would have a news conference announcing the resignation of that member!

    I have no bias. just stating the fact!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    You don’t know what you’re talking about…

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    yiddish mamma

    we all agree, that asking other untis to come join did a lot of damage to the organization.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    The reason he didn’t leave is simple. He did not trust the NYPD. Consider the case of Gideon Busch.

    The NYPD cannot be trusted, and are a bunch of trigger happy people.

    Kudos to the unit in questions, and Kudos to the members that responded to support him.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    as we all have seen last night when from one minute to the other members from all over showed up to show their support for ES5

    yiddish mamma
    yiddish mamma
    19 years ago

    The question is, why did’nt he leave when asked? did he have a good reason or just________?

    I know of other cases where members were arrested for not listening to an officer telling them to leave. The police was always ruled correct and the member punnished. (like community service.)

    Rule # 1 in these united states: EVERYONE LISTENS TO A Police Officer! any judge or DA will give the officer right. (just he will later need to justify his actions.)

    an officer tells you to pass a red light, you go!

    I am not anti hatzaloh, just stating the fact.

    and by asking other untis to come code one he probably did a lot of damage to this organization.

    agree anyone?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    If something this will only strengthen ES5. In a time of crises people tend to stick up for the bosses.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    now, you can dance around from here to Taxes, the problem again is a Jacobs who’s father is the illeagal president of the organazation.

    because of them, Hatzolah makes the papers, rifts between the members.

    this is the perfect opportunity to force them to leave the organazation, without playing into the hands of the Police Department.

    Members, former members, community activists let them know whats going on.

    Mr.ES5 your day just started, but your membership will be coming to an end.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    I am in Hatzoloh and you my retired nypd detective whatever are a P.O.S. B/C I’ve been to more calls then you’ve been to the toilet and we both know we get along just fine. Except for you and a few others that loooove to knock Hatzoloh so get a life and buzz off. arivedetche’

    R.S.L.
    R.S.L.
    19 years ago

    Why don’t you trouble makers try a novel idea. How about listening to the Police or FDNY at emergency scens. I’m a retired NYPD Detective and have been to numerous emergency scenes where Hatzolah people just got in the way. Too bad you all have more money than you know what to do with.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    What’s an EDP

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    get a life………..please

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    it was a member that has a real attitude. what goes around comes around

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    “Anonymous said…
    It’s all over he’s been released already
    10:58 PM”

    that wasn’t so!!!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    what do you mean let us go give respect ?? why can’t they listen ,when requested???

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    It’s all over he’s been released already

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    it is a cordeinator i just got a phone call lets go and give respect to hatzalah lets go hasem will pay you back lets go give it all up to him forget what we had before lets go please call evrey one you know

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    it was heshy jacobs son. he did not wana leave the son. i dont know his hatzolah id number k

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    why was he arrested?

    Zisha Pinkus
    Zisha Pinkus
    19 years ago

    any updates

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    ok———-

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    ok

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    i think it was ES91 he requested ES5 on a code 1

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    19 years ago

    who was the member???????????