Iran – Austrian Rabbi, Moshe Aryeh Friedman, also the Chief of Orthodox Anti-Zionist society has described the Zionist regime as ‘criminal’.
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In a three-day conference on ‘Judaism against Zionism’ in Iran’s Mashad Fersdowsi University, the Austrian Rabbi condemned the Zionist Regime for invading Palestine and further destroying the faith of world-wide religions.
“Our religious beliefs oblige us to secure the freedom of all Palestinians and the sacred Jerusalem from the aggressive Zionist invaders.” Friedman said.
“The Zionist Regime has committed world-wide crimes behind its holocaust fabrication, presenting the Zionists as champions of suffering and persecution,” he said.
“Although they commit heinous crimes before the eyes of the world, international organizations such as the UN chooses to remain silent and ignorant,” he added.
“The Zionist regime has justified its wide-spread atrocities, by distorting the testaments and True Jewish Values,” he concluded. [irantv]
….And you are incorrect, regardless: for example, during Shlomo HaMelech’s reign, we learn in Melachim that everyone lived in peace under his olive tree….
EXACTLY. That’s what I meant . Just afew years of peace. Raging wars all the time the rest of the time.
You’ve been influenced by the Satmat shitta.
Where exactly was the Satmar Rebbe during the war just before the great Zionist Kastner rescued him?
How come that period of his life is not talked about?
….As far as the Satmar Rebbi being politically informed. He wasn’t a “Batlunisher Yidele” who got his information of “Mikvah Neias” from “Another Chusid”. He was very well-informed politically, sometimes, by the highest sources inside the Israeli?! Government. …
That may be.. but many of his “facts” in his Al Hagulah V’al Hatmurah are simply wrong. Those of us who were young adults in 1967 and lived through that era are simply amazed at the historical inaccuries that this man wrote.He defends Nasser’s troop builup in the Sinai and reads his mind saying that he REALLY didn’t want war. Give me a break. A quarter of a million Egyptian troops and hundreds of tanks and the Rebbe says he was just bluffing. Was he serious? The Satmar rebbe is NOT the last word on this or any Zionist subject because he was biased.
Oh… when is Kastner’s yahrtzeit??
…The big difference is that Hashem commanded Moshe and then Yehoshua et al to do so. He never told the Zionists to do so, and many gedolim are quoted as having said the Zionists should not found their state. …
You miss the point. The point is that there was hate against the Jews from time immemorial.
There were many gedolim who were FOR the Zionist state. Also , since we don’t have a prophet and Urim V’tumim today , you don’t know what G-D says or doesn’t say.
Since he allowed with NISSIM for a Jewish state to be founded and with NISSIM provides for its existence , it stands to reason that he wants it.Especially since the world murdered and/or looked aside when millions of Jews were killed. G-D does chessed even if we don’t deserve it. In any case , it will do you no good. Israel is here to stay. Suck it up.
Anon. 3:49 PM Thanks for the disclaimer. (look it up in a dictionary, if you know what that is).
Jewlover oct. 8, 12:26 AM
I’m merely interpreting the statement of the Satmar Rebbi, in the VYM.That the UN, originally, (before the final vote, approving an independent State of Israel) had planned to succeed the form of Government in “Palestine” by a TRUSTEESHIP, which is, purportedly a more autonomous form of Government than the British Mandate
[was] but isn’t quite Independence.
As far as the Satmar Rebbi being politically informed. He wasn’t a “Batlunisher Yidele” who got his information of “Mikvah Neias” from “Another Chusid”. He was very well-informed politically, sometimes, by the highest sources inside the Israeli?! Government. Yes! This sounds like an exaggerated, or Absurd statement. But it’s not! “Mishpachah” magazine (the Hebrew version) ran an article, about Two Years ago over a [deceased] newspaper reporter’s notebook that was found, which contained the “Minutes” of Cabinet meetings, just prior to the Six-Day war. Some of the [previously unknown]views –and concerns– expressed by some cabinet members “Dovetail”
with statements and opinions expressed by the Late Satmar Rebbi, at that time. Not entering into a debate about “Ruach Hakodesh”, we shall assume that he had his informants, and he did! On another note, The Satmar Rebbi never, ever, “Saw Eye-to-Eye” with the Nat. K. people, as is the case today that NO GODOL [Ba TORAH] is associated with the Nat, K., or their policies and statements.
p.s.: I only got to your [response]
so late, because I had a “busy” day
due to the fact that “you can’t make a living by posting on VUS IZ NEIAS. (wish I could).
What a chilal hashem they’re making!!!!! Imagine the Iranians coming to beg us to destroy their country!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NK (and their defenders and apologists) = FRUM APIKORSIM.
” Don’t make the news , eh?? So how come you’re such a big Shvantz Macher and only YOU know this news.”
Talk to people who used to live there, and, just as in any other place, you’ll hear things that don’t make it into the general media. Do you know all the news from Biloxi, MS just by reading the New York Times? Same idea.
October 8, 2007 6:22 PM
Anonymous said…
” CAN ANY RECALL READING OR LEARNING ABOUT ANY HISTORICAL JEWISH ERA WHEN RELIGIOUS JEWS PUBLICLY IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE UNIVERSE CONDEMNED IN THE WORST TERMS OTHER JEWS , EVEN IF,,EVEN IF LET’S SAY THEY WERE WRONG??
EVER??????
THIS IS SICKENING..!!”
This is a good point, and seems to be a lose-lose any way you look at it. However, their rationale seems to be that everyone has been morally blinded by the wool that Zionism has pulled over everyone’s eyes (Jew and non-Jew alike), and so NK feels they have to combat that.
October 8, 2007 6:37 PM
Anonymous said…
” ..Israel has never known a day of peace ….
So become a goy and you’ll have peace. Since the days of Avrohom Aveinu we never had oeace…what’s wrong with you??”
Or, better, do your best among the nations of the world as G-d commanded, and don’t create artificial “solutions” like Zionism that do tremendously more harm than good. Instead, pray for the true and final redemption.
October 8, 2007 6:38 PM
Anonymous said…
“G-D wants Israel , always wanted Israel , will always want Israel. His eyes are always on Israel. Those that don’t believe it are Poshim and Kofrim.”
He always seeks the LAND, is what the Torah says; it says nothing about the Zionists and their anti-Jewish State.
October 8, 2007 6:40 PM
Anonymous said…
Since the days of Avrohom Aveinu we never had oeace..
So that’s why the Zionists transformed that fire (no peace) into a raging inferno.
And you are incorrect, regardless: for example, during Shlomo HaMelech’s reign, we learn in Melachim that everyone lived in peace under his olive tree.
“ignoring the battles that Moshe Rabbeinu fought even before the Yidden went into Israel. They just hate..hate..hate…”
The big difference is that Hashem commanded Moshe and then Yehoshua et al to do so. He never told the Zionists to do so, and many gedolim are quoted as having said the Zionists should not found their state.
That’s (partly) their point, not simply “hate..hate..hate”.
Since the days of Avrohom Aveinu we never had oeace..
You’re right. AND , they’re ignoring the history of pogroms and murder , ignoring the wars Yidden ALWAYS fought in Eretz Yisroel against the surrounding nations , ignoring the battles that Moshe Rabbeinu fought even before the Yidden went into Israel. They just hate..hate..hate…
G-D wants Israel , always wanted Israel , will always want Israel. His eyes are always on Israel. Those that don’t believe it are Poshim and Kofrim.
..Israel has never known a day of peace ….
So become a goy and you’ll have peace. Since the days of Avrohom Aveinu we never had oeace…what’s wrong with you??
..Reb Michoel Ber Weissmandl wrote extensively on this subject…
He didn’t have all the facts, pal. Read other books on the subject and open your mind.
And NO , your “facts” are absolutely NOT documented anywhere.
CAN ANY RECALL READING OR LEARNING ABOUT ANY HISTORICAL JEWISH ERA WHEN RELIGIOUS JEWS PUBLICLY IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE UNIVERSE CONDEMNED IN THE WORST TERMS OTHER JEWS , EVEN IF,,EVEN IF LET’S SAY THEY WERE WRONG??
EVER??????
THIS IS SICKENING..!!
Jews were ruthlessly assaulted and murdered by their own government, beginning from their State’s inception all the way through Amona, Gaza and countless others “minor” incidents that don’t make the news..
Don’t make the news , eh?? So how come you’re such a big Shvantz Macher and only YOU know this news.
…I guess the general Israeli population of Mechaalalie Shabbos, Noiafim, Oichlie Nevielis Utriefois, Koifrim Be’ikur….. They are the real Jews……. and the Erlicher yidden of Neturie Karteh (although we disagree with thier Shitah) I guess they are the Umois huoilum of our Doir. ..
Yeah , and the Nachbi ben Vofsis,Shofot ben Choris, Palti ben Rofis were the REAL Tzaddikim , and nebech ,Yeshua’le and Colev’l were the shmendricks..
Go figure..
“Yes , there were some bad Zionists , but there were also Zionists who risked their lives to save jews. You forgot about the operations that smuggled Jws and airlifted them out of Arab countries in the fifties. You don’t want to know about the clandestine Zionist operations against the Nazis and later the British in Palestine.”
Once you admit and recognize the vast number of varying atrocities committed by Zionists against their “fellow” Jews from the inception of Zionism and on through Amona, Gaza and on, you realize that any good that Zionists do is easily, perhaps cynically, but very logically nonetheless, seen through the prism of Zionism claiming to be the protector of Jews and needing to do SOMEthing to live up to the image they fall pathetically short trying to convey.
As for Jews in Arab lands, do you know anyone who lived in Arab lands before the Zionists reared their ugly and vicious heads? Talk to someone that did, before believing the Big Lie of Zionism, that the Zionists saved the Jews from the Arab countries. It is patently absurd and false that Zionists came in and “saved them”. And those Jews have had a better time since? Israel has never known a day of peace in its life and drafts every young child of 18 to go to war to defend its wretched country. That’s progress?
The fact that so many Jews live in Israel and that there is so much Torah there is not any more a proof that Israel is G-d’s wish than Yeshu walking on water is proof that he was chosen by G-d. G-d certainly allowed Israel to come into being, but don’t let that fool you into thinking that it is His preference; everyone has free will, and that does not convey a heavenly stamp of approval.
The very fact that Israeli Jews were ruthlessly assaulted and murdered by their own government, beginning from their State’s inception all the way through Amona, Gaza and countless others “minor” incidents that don’t make the news, is certainly proof that you do not want to be in their shoes.
NK is a bit extreme, but much of what they quote from history has been distorted or revised by Zionism and others, so before you blast them, just understand the message; then blame the messenger for conveying it in an incorrect manner.
Aragorn said…
If there is no state of Israel, Jews will not be alloed to live and worship in the holy land. Why are Jews helping the haters destroy a Jewish state? Cause they are not real Jews, is probably the answer. ????????…………….
I guess the general Israeli population of Mechaalalie Shabbos, Noiafim, Oichlie Nevielis Utriefois, Koifrim Be’ikur….. They are the real Jews……. and the Erlicher yidden of Neturie Karteh (although we disagree with thier Shitah) I guess they are the Umois huoilum of our Doir. How stupid can u be???
If there is no state of Israel, Jews will not be alloed to live and worship in the holy land. Why are Jews helping the haters destroy a Jewish state? Cause they are not real Jews, is probably the answer. They can’t think for themselves. How about pray for the messiah and live your life as you will and let others – including Israelis – live their lives
hashiveni hashem eilecho ve’nashuva chadesh umeni k’kedem, thank you thank you hashem.
The United Nations in November 1947 approved the establishment of a state of Israel and a state of Palestine in what was left of the Palestine Mandate (77 percent of the mandate went to create Trans-Jordan and then Jordan, though the land was promised for a state of Israel by the British and League of Nations)
Both the founders of what became Israel and he Arabs had until May 1948 to declare statehood; Jews did and Arabs didn’t.
As for the anti-Zionist here comparing Zionists to Nazis and worse, your ignorance is not an excuse. But then again you have been mentally living in the 17th century your entire lives. Before a state of Israel, Jews living in the Mideast were persecuted and denied their rights to practice their religion. I guess many of you religious zealots want to go back to Jews being denied the right to be Jews and murdered. Very sad…
whats the argument if the torah states that kill everyone who comes to kill you “palestinians” who have a record as killers so every second they are under occupation we the supporters of isreal have a chelek in this comandment.
I read many post here and my anon answer to all, the nk’s feed on any bad on isreal and search out the bad and blow it up to the exstend that makes us all look bad to me they are the core of all evil the baal dovor devil, on yom kipur we all had them in our prayer that hashem should not judge us because of these few as the talmud states holchin achar rav.
“Our religious beliefs oblige us to secure the freedom of all Palestinians and the sacred Jerusalem from the aggressive Zionist invaders.”
Our religious beliefs oblige us to protect Jewish lives from Islamic jihadists.Jerusalem is Jewish land given to us by Hashem-we don’t need Arabs trashing it and destroying Jewish holy places. The Islamists don’t think Jewrusalem is sacred to the Jewish people-look what they are doing to destroy the har habayis.
Chevra its all about money,the message that he gave at the university was written by this rosho…..got the cheque straight after the speech.
….but only one event is taboo to analysis by the Zionist hysterics, and we know what event that is. Ve-hameyvin yovin…..
Daer Anonymous…
They are all YOVIN but will pretend and they won’t talk about it. The younger ones who post here should ask their parents and grandparents. But they won’t talk either.
Why is Mr Wiess and Mr. Freidman Neturie Karta rejected by Torah frum \ Chasidshe Jews?
There is so much Zionist-inspired paranoia and hysteria in various postings here, it is incredible. Some of the wildest Zionism is expressed by some of those who actually call themselves “Satmar.”
And yes, EVERY historical event is open to research and detailed analysis, but only one event is taboo to analysis by the Zionist hysterics, and we know what event that is. Ve-hameyvin yovin…..
” If they were any other state in the world doing what they do to the Palestinians, they would be sanctioned and condemned.”
Bull excrement. In Rawanda during the 1990s, at least 500,000 (and by some estimates, as many as 1 million) members of the Tutsi tribe were genocidally slaughtered by members of the dominant Hutu tribe, and the world said and did exactly NOTHING.
Bill Clinton was too busy pressuring a succession of Israeli prime ministers to make suicidal concessions of land, money and relase of terrorist prisoners to the rasha Arafat, yimach shmo, under the corrupt Oslo so-called “peace process” to pay any attention at all to this atrocity. Instead, he even pressed the Israelis to arm Arafat’s so-called “police” — and what was supposed to be just a 10,000-man constabulary force carrying pistols suddenly morphed into a 40,000-man army with tanks, artillery, heavy machine guns, bazookas, etc). Clinton even interfered on several separate Israeli elections, sending his top political hired gun, James Carville, over there to engineer the campaigns of the more pliant “dove” candidates like Ehud Barak and Shimon Peres versus the more intransigent “hawks” like Bibi Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon.
During the time when all this Holocaust-like genocide was going on in Africa (not to mention the rise of bloody extremists elsewhere like the Taliban in Afghanistan and the murderous reign of dictators like Saddam Hussein), the UN also also doing NOTHING — instead obsessing on the “Palestinians” and passing resolution after resolution condemning Israel.
Fast forward a dozen years later, and NOTHING HAS CHANGED, other than the US administration. The Arabs continue to slaughter the ethnic blacks in Darfur (Sudan) and elsewhere in Africa, the Sudanese government is protected by its Arab friends, the UN is doing little to stop it, the world doesn’t give a damn — because everyone is STILL obsessed with the “Palestinians” — and even when the Fatah gangster Abbas and the Hamas gangsters slaughter each other in Gaza, Israel is blamed and is told that the “only” way to end the bloodshed is for Israel to make further concessions to Abbas.
“However, the Zionists have a blank check to make the Palestinians PAY for whatever did or did not happen in Europe SIXTY FIVE YEARS AGO!”
Whatever DID OR DID NOT HAPPEN”? You give yourself away, you Hitlerjugend — we ALL know what happened in Europe 65 years ago, and only Nazis or their supporters like the gangster “president” of Iran say otherwise.
And as for his claims, and the claims of neo-Nazis and other apologists for the Arabs that that the Palestinians supposedly bear no responsibility for the Holocuast and should not be “punished” — WRONG AGAIN. Just at the point in 1939 when the Holocaust was about to move into high gear, right after Kristallnacht and just before the invasion of Poland, the main door of escape for Europe’s Jews, to go to Mandate Palestine, was slammed shut by the British — after nearly two decades of increasingly violent and bloody riots and other agitation by the “Palestinians” led by the gangster Amin al-Haj Husseini (Arafat’s uncle), their so-called “Grand Mufti”. The Brits decided to appease the Mufti just like they were appeasing Hitler at the same time (remember Munich?) — so they stopped ALL Jewish immigration, JUST when the Jews of Europe needed a refuge the most.
Even as the Nazis exterminated the Jews for the next six years, the Brits, fearful of the trouble the Mufti might cause, allowed NO more Jews into Palestine (some were able to slip in illegally, but it was not a lot).
The Mufti spent WWII in Berlin as Hitler’s guest and sometime luncheon partner, visited Auschwitz and liked what he saw there, pledged full “Palestinian” support for a Mideast “Final Solution” had his troops conquered the Holy Land, made propaganda broadcasts for the Nazis in Arabic to stir up trouble for the British, and even recruted Bosnian Muslims into a special SS division. The Brits wanted to hang him for war crimes after the war — but he escaped to the Arab world and was there protected by various rulers until his death in 1974.To this day, the “Palestinians” consider him a great patriot. So the “Palestinians” helpd play a key role in the Holocaust. They deserve NOT A SECOND OF SYMPATHY FROM ANYONE.
COULD SOME PSYCHOLOGIST PLEASE COME ABOARD AND EXPLAIN THIS FANATICAL HATRED OF ZIONISM??
THIS IS ABNORMAL BECAUSE RIGHT AWAY THESE HATERS DISTORT THE FACTS TO MAKE THEMSELVES FEEL GOOD.
Unfortunately , the Satmar Rav cited inaccurate historical facts in his sefer.
RE: The Zionists are cold blooded murderers just like the Germans. This is not just right wing Neturai Karta talk, it’s documented facts. Reb Michoel Ber Weissmandl wrote extensively on this subject…..
Rabbi Weissmandel didn’t have all the facts. Read other books that shed more light than heat on this subject. You are a Meragel. What do you think? The Meraglim were horse traders? They were Gedolei Hador with a hidden agenda and they made terrible mistakes.Just Ask Calev and Yehoshua.
Yes , there were some bad Zionists , but there were also Zionists who risked their lives to save jews. You forgot about the operations that smuggled Jws and airlifted them out of Arab countries in the fifties. You don’t want to know about the clandestine Zionist operations against the Nazis and later the British in Palestine.
I wonder what a background check of these antis would bring forth. Some very unsavory things I’m afraid.
THESE PEOPLE WHO TALK AGAINST ZIONISM HAVE NEVER READ A BOOK ABOUT HISTORY. THEY CAN BARELY SPEAK ENGLISH CORRECTLY , LET ALONE READ. PERHAPS IF THEY DID SOME READING THEY WOULD SOUND A BIT INTELLIGENT .
Truly amazing that anyone with the brain capacity to boot up a comuter is bothering to argue with the retards who agree with the sicko.
Is there ONE respected odom gadol who backs what this chimp does?
After reading some of the posts here I have decided to leave Israel and move to a much better and safer country that will protect us Jews and insure that we are provided with all our needs….. I’m moving to Iran!!!
Who cares what the quote on quote Zionists do, there is a country that belongs to us Jews, granted it is a secular country but never the less it’s ours. Why would I want to give to terrorists? and what should I do? move?
N.K.: Let Hashem be the decider of our fate, not humans. Although I’m not sure we can consider N.K. human……….
To one who can analyze writing styles it would appear that the pro-Neturi Karta comments are all written by the same person.
IN 1948 the world which is the un by some miracle voted for the creation for the land of isreal, and let’s go back in time the world that voted for us din’t even want our existing on this planet, but the love of hashem of our existing brought about the above of the tevah miracle so to say no thanks to this gift who are we fooling, let’s all be be’achdus on the the topic of love for isreal and satmar and lubavitch and everyone in beetween will continually bring jews closer too hashem instead of distance them from hashem, with this zechus hashem should give us the gift of gifts the ultimate redemption so our confusion will be forgotten “omen”
bigwheel,
Are you saying that the un did in fact set up a trusteeship in 1948? C’mon, you know there in no shred of truth to that, because that means that Israel is not a country, rather a trusteeship of the UN. Are they a member country of the UN or not? It’s ok to make a mistake, he didnt listen to the news, some chossid must have misled him and he built his thesis on that. Arguments can never change facts. He made a mistake, Reb Akiva made a mistaske, every great Jewish leader made mistakes.
Not every man with a beard is a Rabbi, and not every circumcised male is a Jew. Friedman would fit nicely into an Iranian Madrasa, if his concubine would only agree on a hijab of her color preference.
Jewlover 9:44PM
I will not address myself to anything else you say in this post.
Only to the statement that the Satmar Rebbi is mistaken in reference to the “Trusteeship” issue. I’m afraid that the person who’s mistaken is you. I have read that passage in the VY”M, too. And the way I read it is, that “The UN
wanted to establish [in Mandate Palestine] a TRUSTEESHIP [of the UN], as opposed to a MANDATE form of Government. (not a trusteeship, by the Zionists).
“The Zionists are cold blooded murderers just like the Germans”
October 7, 2007 7:25 PM
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There may have been ‘some’ murders in the making…….. But from the other hand name a nation that does not have or had…..
…. USA ?….. UK? …..Perhaps France?! No
…………but to compare it with “GERMANS” ?!!!!
…..Just shows your true color …..
no need to comment!!…..
(You could team up with these Net. Kkkarte)
PS I don’t know where ppl like you get their hatred? Satmar? Rav Yoel T”B Zt“L would never have said it!!
Anon. 8:07PM “The Zionists have nuclear (nu-killer) weapons aimed at Europe and The US”. Also, nebach, the poor palestinians….
REB YID, IHR ZENT SHOYN GEVE(Z)N BA-M DOCTOR. YOU NEED A PSYCHIATRIST, STAT. YOU SUFFER FROM PARANOIA AND SELF-HATRED.
Anon. 7:25PM …”RMB W. wrote extensively on this subject.
…But he didn’t come to the same conclusions, and did not make the same broad statements that [some of] the Nat. K. spokespersons are.
Here in Vienna,
We are happy we did not allow his kids into our Schools.
Also he has NO shul and no Minyan he does not even represnt the tree infront his apartment.
I was once in manhattan on shabbos by a patient when this natira karta ppl stayed at the apartments near the hospital so they should be able to be closeby the un to participate in a protest together with muslims. what a shame when will they realize all the chilel hashem they cause
I have a hard time understanding such foggy rationales. The leaders of Israel are not zionists anymore, they actually are what is called Post Zionists. Todays state of Israel supports more Torah than than anyone ever did. I did learn the Vayoel Moshe cover to cover and let’s say that there are a lot of mistakes there. For example In the Maamar Sholosh Shevuos #86 he writes, “After the UN gave permission for the State of Israel to come into fruition, they revoked their permission and gave it to the Zionists as a TRUSTEESHIP, however the Zionists didn’t obey the UN. Does anyone know if this is in fact an historical fact, and if it isn’t, does that mean the Zionists do have a right to be there according to the Satmar shitta? There are a lot of other things that he says that are just not factual. Does that mean that he’s a liar? Absolutely not, but remember, the truth is not only what you hear at home and in Yeshiva. Look in Navi and see for yourself what Hashem’s opinion is, it’s very clear. You must love all jews in order to undo the sin that got us into this Golus. All the seforim say the remedy for Sinas Chinam is Ahavas Chinam.
The Chazon Ish was once asked by a talmid what would eventually happen to the medinah. He replied, “Die Araber velen apramen die Medinah.” When he was asked “What about us?” he replied “Mir zolen apramen die Tsionus fun unzere hertzer.”
I’ll leave the translation to someone else.
Jewlover, are you asking a question for an answer? There are two types of Zionists: a) Those who actually WIELD ACTUAL ECONOMIC, MILITARY, POLITICAL and RELIGIOUS POWER OVER THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND NON-JEWS in violation of the precepts of the Torah; and b) Those who SUPPORT THEM. These people can be made up of evil people and also very confused people. However, one cannot escape the responsibility for one’s beliefs and actions. In any case, the Zionists who WIELD ACTUAL POWER are the focus of the world’s attention, while the masses of Jews who are brainwashed are the focus of great pity. However, a person has free will to break away from addiction to Zionism. In Judaism we would refer to the Zionists wielding power (economic, military, religious) as Amalek and Erev Rav, while the masses are plain Jews who have been misled. BUT every person has an obligation to wake up, to seek the truth.
Who are Zionists? If i decide to become a zionist does that make me a murderer? is the zionist Kastner the one that saved the Satmar Rebbe? There are religious zionists that learn 10-12 hours a day, are they murderers? you want the state of Israel destroyed? all the anti zionist rabbonim of europe said their opinion before the medina, now who says they would say the same? Hating jews is the sin why we are still in golus, thos guys and the posters here that hate are not bringing moshiach any closer. Live and let live.
I don’t understand people believing that they truly worry about the fate of Jews when the Zionists have been destroying Jews for almost 100 years. Does Hashem reward so many sins with success?!
Moishe Friedman is simply saying what everyone knows to be the truth except those with their heads in the sand……