Bnei Brak – BBC: Rabbis Blacklist Non-kosher Music

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    Rabbi Luft says modern music can corrupt young people. Photo Credit BBC NewsBnei Brak – Lipa Schmeltzer looks and sounds every inch the popular ultra-orthodox Jewish singer that he is.

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    He sings in Yiddish. He dresses in the clothes of a Haredi Jew and all of his song lyrics come from the scriptures.

    Yet some say Schmeltzer’s music, and that of others like him, is indecent and unfit for public consumption.

    “They are leading the public astray and are causing a great negative influence on the young generation,” says Rabbi Efraim Luft, head of an ultra-orthodox organisation in Israel called the Committee for Jewish Music.

    Supported by leading Haredi rabbis, Rabbi Luft has drawn up a black-list of musicians and bands – music that he says that is not kosher and cannot be played at ultra-orthodox weddings or public events because of its decadent nature.

    Rules for Playing Kosher Music, Committee for Jewish Music

    What Rabbi Luft objects to so vehemently is not just contemporary, western music – rock, rap or pop – but the use of modern instruments and beats in the tunes of orthodox singers like Lipa Schmeltzer.

    “The main part of the music should be the melody. Percussion should be secondary. They should not bend notes electronically and should not use instruments like electric guitars, bass guitars or saxophones in Jewish music,” he says.

    Sitting in the dining room of his small flat in the orthodox town of Bnei Brak, close to Tel Aviv, Rabbi Luft explains his preference for traditional, even sombre, Jewish tunes like Kol Nidrei.

    A serious, studious man the rabbi explains how he thinks modern music is disrespectful, leading young people astray and can lead to the collapse of education and the family system.

    The use of percussion accompaniment in slow, quiet music is generally ridiculous. 2/4 beats and other rock and disco beats must not be used

    It is a broad charge, but the rabbi is convinced that in the last 25 years music has gradually eroded moral standing in society.

    Saying that music is “powerful”, he says the “purpose of modern music – its influences – is to distract young people and change good characters into bad”.

    The Rabbi says such music, even Jewish rock music, “where the dangerous beat plays more of a part than the melody, has no place in a society where people are trying to keep their moral standards high.

    There are approximately 500,000 ultra-orthodox Haredi Jews in Israel. They tend to live in their own communities in, or near Israel’s major towns.

    Their plain, modest clothing, rituals and centuries-old customs make the Haredis unmistakable and their lives revolve around their faith.

    Because of the loyal relationship between orthodox Jews and their rabbis, the influence of bodies like the Committee for Jewish Music and the Guardians of Sanctity and Education is considerable.

    They have already succeeded in banning virtually all public concerts by ultra-orthodox groups and singers in Israel.

    Famous, successful singers like Avraham Fried – a devout, observant orthodox Jew – are not exempt.

    Making up around 8% of the population of Israel, the Haredi community has real economic clout. Boycotts have been very effective.

    Menahem Toker, an award-winning disc jockey, who was dismissed from a radio show under pressure from Haredi activists, warns the policy could backfire.

    “In Jewish Orthodox culture there’s no cinema, no theatre, no television. The only thing we have is music”, says Mr Toker.

    “We are the same, orthodox, people but if they don’t find an alternative they’ll lose the young people – they’ll go to non-kosher shows and they’ll have lost the next generation.”

    It is a dire warning from a man who cares deeply about his religion and his music – but the hard-line rabbis are unapologetic.

    In a world bursting with mobile phones, MP4 players and DVDs they say it is their moral duty to protect young people against the evils of the modern world.


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    Yachtzel
    Yachtzel
    15 years ago

    The usual BBC obsession with yiden – frumme yiden in particular.

    ujm
    ujm
    15 years ago

    I wish they would do this in the US, The shtutz in this country is appalling.

    Izzy
    Izzy
    15 years ago

    These Telban Rabbis will make Frum Jews go off the Derach.

    spero chussid
    spero chussid
    15 years ago

    i think this “rabbi”s wife wares a burka and its been rumored that he is actually tone deaf!

    Genius
    Genius
    15 years ago

    I love #9 :

    “Only the person paying the musician has a right to tell them what & how to play”

    So apparently, this must mean that this guy is now going to pay for all musicians, at all simchas, for everyone!!!!

    spero chussid
    spero chussid
    15 years ago

    i think he is in need of a job any1 who can help him it woudld be a great zechus

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    With a degree in Music I feel qualified to say the Rabbi has no understanding of the construct of “western” music and is deluding himself and others into thinking he has a grasp of the history of Jewish music.

    Bending notes? well that certainly removes the Shofar

    This guy hasn’t the foggiest notion as to the origins of western music (no of which is of middle eastern origin including klezemer & classical)

    His other points are just too absurd to discuss.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Rabbi Luft? Hmm what does “Luft” mean? Air? yes well then he’s just blowing Luft!!

    PLEASE!!!!.......
    PLEASE!!!!.......
    15 years ago

    All the worlds problems come from Lipa. President bush is free to go…..we have lipa to blame now!!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    TURN THE GOYISHE MUSIC OFF ON YOUR CELLPHONE RINGTONE….ESPCIALLY IN SHUL!!!!!

    Twice I’ve informed ERLICHE YIDDEN that by the way, their ringtone was playing “Oh when the saints come marching in”…Do they know what kind of tune this is? no…and they shouldn’t

    FinVeeNemtMenSeichel
    FinVeeNemtMenSeichel
    15 years ago

    there is shmutz in everything. if we don’t learn how to control our yetzer haras even peeling vegetables can lead us off the derech. assering and assering makes a caricature out of orthodox judaism and not to the outside world; to our own children. i’m sorry, to me, it’s just yet another obscure rabbi/askan drawing attention to himself. i love music and agree that the jewish music we grew up with is dead and buried. but the new geneartion likes the new garbage. go figure. but to asser? my suggestion: turn whatever music is left down a bit and listen… just listen to the sound of youngsters leaving the derech while mocking us for the chachomim we think we are.

    MAYER
    MAYER
    15 years ago

    In todays age people brain are so pressured and so many take pills for problems steming from the economy etc. that they need a little bit of lipa songs for chizuk. Now for those that dont need it good for them. But others it could mean depressing and maybe danger chas v’shulem. so since klal yisroel is waiting in golus so long please leave them alone till moschiach comes then we will all do better.

    yossele
    yossele
    15 years ago

    Thank G-d for this *guardian* of our people.

    He is *saving yiddishe neshomes* by addressing one of the *major problems* affecting our community.

    He obviously has the backing of the *gedolei yisroel* and therefore deserves our (presumably financial) support.

    *denotes sarcasm.

    chaim36
    chaim36
    15 years ago

    The real issue in regards to music is the incredible blasting sound which is destructive.It is a serious health hazzard and emulates the goyim by trying to be ‘ cool ‘.

    Avraham Abba
    Avraham Abba
    15 years ago

    rabbi Luft really understands what H. wants from us. All day and all night sadness. Always remember to say, Oy!

    Why should we want our Jewish male children to meet some low Jewish female children? Why meet Jews when there are so many millions and even billions of females who are not Jewish. Why should we go to Jewish concerts? Please reemember to buy only his songs and to ignore all the other bands which have been stealing good money from the rabbi. We all know about the trains and buses. If you go to a Jewish concert, it might possibly make you think of a train. On that train, there might be a female. Looking at her will make us sin. But that is good Rabbi Luft!!

    Once we sin, we will be sad. And isn’t that what He wants from us?

    Even if we are stuck and we can’t think of anything, just should start singing Kol Nidre which makes people sad even though they will say it’s good; but the sad tune will help us be where the rabbi wants us to be, sad and in depression.

    Now remember please….be sad, and bring your children up to follow the sad derech which leads to tshuva and then we are finally ready for more and deeper sadness and that will bring more tshuva and then Moshiach wil come.

    Do not be happy; it’s assur.

    Lock & Load
    Lock & Load
    15 years ago

    This is good for the Music Business

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Wasn’t this guy in the movie Footloose?

    Appropriateness in any matter is so subjective. Do any of this Rabbi’s supporters realize just how foolish this looks to anyone with half a brain.

    Bring up a generation that can figure out on their own what is appropriate and what isnt(when halacha doesnt address the issue) and Yiddishkeit will be a lot better off.

    Use your head
    Use your head
    15 years ago

    chaim36 – “incredible blasting sound which is destructive” – did you come up with that pearl on your own? Beautiful.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    WOW. We have people theteaning rabbi twerski’s children because he wants to save children from molesters and we have rabbonim who are too busy protecting us from noise.

    PRIORITIES????

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    To commenter number 1: Had I been a BBC reporter i would also be obsessed.

    That Luft guy, the supposed “Gedolim” he represents, and the Yerushalayime street that generally heeds those calls, do indeed make for an absurd and ironic bunch!

    lebediger
    lebediger
    15 years ago

    Rabbi? who is this person? what is this person?

    the problem is that anyone is comming up with an idea he starts calling himself RABBI now with all new stupid comments anyone wnts to address he is also using the “gedoila hador” name

    soon nobody will believe the rabbis

    stop using theirs names for shtissem

    spero chussid
    spero chussid
    15 years ago

    i think he got fired from Gal Paz and is taking revenge

    Use your head
    Use your head
    15 years ago

    Why do people give lunatics so much attention? If we ignore them they will go away!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    the goyim have a sect like him. they’re called PENTECOSTALS. They hit themselves, wear black clothing, and go around sad and punishing themselves.

    whatever happened to MITZVAH GEDOLAH L’HIOS B’SIMCHA??

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    I too deplore the state of much of Jewish music today, but I care less for heavy-handed tactics. They’re just asking for a rebellion.

    By the way, the saxophone is not a modern instrument. It was invented in the 1840s and has its origins in classical music.

    Fartzonovitch
    Fartzonovitch
    15 years ago

    Rabbi Efraim Luft is a fool. This guys is a colda Litvak, who prefers slow sad and somber songs do. That is his opinion NOT HALACHA!!! So please stop interupting HALACHA to the choice of your music.

    Go be “machmir” on yourself but don’t start messing with peoples Parnusa. I won’t want to be you on Yom Kippur.

    joseph
    joseph
    15 years ago

    who is this guy and why should we listen to him

    let him go to work so he wont have time to come with these idiocies

    the problem of this generaton is that we have too many “avreichim” floating around doing nothing especially in israel

    people that work for a living dont have time for this busht!

    look at the amount of people comung schnorring from israel on any given morniing in shule

    just today i was in the agudah of ave l and a busload literally came in all health young people schnorring from israel

    why do we have to support people who make zero effort on behalf of their parnassah

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    IT IS AMAZING WHAT THEY THINK OF. I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT THESE PEOPLE DO NOT WORK AND SIT AND THINK UP THINGS TO DESTROY OTHERS. GET A JOB!!

    LEMAYSA
    LEMAYSA
    15 years ago

    It is getting harder and harder to remain frum in the crazy world of ours.

    jj
    jj
    15 years ago

    i think im gonna be digging up some dirton this hot air LUFT guy. lets see how KOSHER this luft guy really is

    chaim36
    chaim36
    15 years ago

    RE= USE YOUR HEAD…..When was the last time you went to a wedding / bar- mitvah and were able to hear yourself ?Did you ever notice that these musicians use EAR PLUGS .Why should we endure this painful sound ?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    first let them make a blacklist against, molesters, stealers, wife beaters, men who won’t give a get , and the list goes on.

    joe
    joe
    15 years ago

    Because something is annoying to “chaim36” Lets make it Asur to everyone just to make “chaim36” happy. You are self centered

    from NJ
    from NJ
    15 years ago

    Ban Maoz Tsur, its melody is from a hymn composed by Martin Luther, the founder of the Protestant church.

    Now THAT is a goyishe influence!!

    Realist
    Realist
    15 years ago

    Dear Rabbi,

    So sad that thousands of years ago, our G’dolim understood the concept of “ain rov hatzibur y’cholim laamod bo”, and you can’t begin to fathom what that means.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    well at least the rabbi got many positive comments from moslems on BBC not bad

    UNAFILIATEDJEW
    UNAFILIATEDJEW
    15 years ago

    Rabbi Luft was probably campaigning against Felder.

    Because Simcha is assur!!

    Mindy
    Mindy
    15 years ago

    I can’t beleive the Shtusem the rabbi’s are busy with instead of the real issues! like locking up molesters!!!!!! What world are we living in????

    nebech
    nebech
    15 years ago

    a NEW self appo. committe another self appo. “va’ad, its a joke. vaad mishmeres “MUSICK”

    nebech
    nebech
    15 years ago

    evryday a new “vaad” “committe”, now we need a new vaad “lemishmeres h’vaad v’hacommitte’s”

    nebech
    nebech
    15 years ago

    rabbi luft u need to go zich “luftern”

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Rabbi luft is addresing a very serious problem in the ortodox community, well admired rabanim, roshe yeshivos, menahalim from chasidishe and litvishe schools alike are finding themselves climing against a wall to fight this major critical problem that is ruining heilige yidishe boys, any one who argues against this matter has absolutley no understanding of the power and bad influence of the music hitting our communities. Chazak V’amats Rabbi Luft you are a Hero its time already to do something about this You will be acknoledged as a big mezakei horabim when the day of moshiach will arrive shortly and the sheker will be gone.

    Heimish Yid
    Heimish Yid
    15 years ago

    Excuse me!! The more “Thou shalt not” the more at risk kids we are going to see! What is happening is that everyday someone has another idea to top the other guys idea of “Thou shalt not”. It is definitly the Taliban mentality and is turning our generation off the derech!! Moshiach better come quick cause soon Chas Vasholem there wont be to many people to come too!

    Tzoorba
    Tzoorba
    15 years ago

    Years ago all chasunas had klezmer music. This wouldn’t fit the restricted parameters of Rabbi Luft.

    We suffer from many kanoim who have good intentions and want to impose chumras on the tzibur. Unless we hear a psak from gedolei Torah directly I would say lo dayach mah sheasra torah?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    4:05

    In fact there has been many kol Korah in the past years on this issue from most of the aknoledged geolei torah in the US & Isael

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    he’s just trying to create a “kulo Koidesh” environment for those that appreciate that, I understand. But why boycott and force it down everyone’s throat!? Maybe we’re not on such a “hechere darga”?!

    snubbed student
    snubbed student
    15 years ago

    I do agree with him that we have no need in jewish music for electric guitars , saxaphones and the drummer being the loudest piece in the band. I went to wedding in Israel that had only regular guitars,a fluit, a bongo, a keyboard and electric violin and it was the best band I ever heard at a wedding. Also the first and only time I went home from a wedding without a headache

    Zak
    Zak
    15 years ago

    Someone ought to tell him that the saxophone is a ‘luft’ instrument.

    r' yid
    r' yid
    15 years ago

    ladies a gentlemen.. I will now present you with the 2009 luchos..

    lo’ listen to good music

    lo’ eating strawberries

    lo’ wearing normal sheitlech

    lo’ concerts

    lo’ drinking tap water

    lo’ eating eggs

    yes’ molesters

    lo’ hotlines

    lo’ eruv

    lo’ bike lanes

    be happy
    be happy
    15 years ago

    lipa is allways making news

    keep it up