Jerusalem – Ahead of the upcoming elections, Shas Chairman Eli Yishai said that one of his party’s main goals in the next Knesset would be to promote a bill banning the gay pride parade in Jerusalem.
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“Even if a person maintains a certain lifestyle, he has no business marching and flaunting it, definitely not in Jerusalem where it hurts the feelings of so many,” Yishai told Ynet in an interview Wednesday.
“I have the signatures of over 70 Knesset members from across the political spectrum who oppose the ‘filth parade’ in Jerusalem.
“And let’s face it: It shouldn’t be held in any other place in the country as well,” he added.
According to Shas’ leader, the IDF itself has defined homosexuality as something that warrants discharge on mental grounds. “We harbor no hate towards these people, God forbid. On the contrary: I view them as any other person in Israel and genuinely wish them good health. I also hear of people who underwent treatment and recovered.”
The industry, trade and labor minister is still dreaming of becoming Israel’s next education minister. He vowed that if appointed education minister he would not seek to change the core curriculum in non-religious institutions, but would attempt to introduce and strengthen Jewish and tradition studies in schools.
i don’t think there should be a gay parade in jerusalem either, but let’s face it folks: that sign they are holding up is disgusting. the torah speaks in modest terms, as should we.
I’m not a great fan of “gay pride” parades either but EY is a democracy and the parade will be held as a matter of law. There is no reason why frumme yidden need to go out of their way to watch the parade and I wouldn’t send my yinglach to watch but that is a choice people in EY should be allowed to make freely in a democratic society. Its not the choice of a bunch of rabbonim or political leaders to dictate lifestyles, even if those are not choices we want for our own families. We are already on a slipper slope of allowing religious decisions to override the basic rights we have in EY and this would only make it worse.
This is a tough one.
What if there were an Atheism Pride Parade?
Maybe those who do not believe in any G-d (G-d forbid) want to “come out of the closet” and walk the streets with pride.
Would be ban it, or allow it?
What if there were a Mechallel Shabbat Pride Parade?
Maybe those who do not believe in Shabbos (G-d forbid) want to “come out of the closet” and walk the streets with pride.
Would we ban it, or allow it?
Is the Gay thing any different?
I don’t know. I am throwing it out to you all. What do YOU think about the other two?
Is it a matter of their flaunting it? Or is it a matter of legitimizing it?
Does the parade in any way encourage the behavior? Either chillul Shabbos, not believing in Hashem, or committing “gay” activities. …
Is “Gay” behavior any worse than being mechallel Shabbos in public?
Both are abominations, …. Violating Shabbos in public is a Capitol Crime; isn’t it?
Someone who intentionally, after being educated, who violates Shabbos in public can’t even be counted in a minyan!
Every time someone walks in the street on Shabbos smoking a cigarette, he/she is doing a Mechallel Shabbat Pride Parade!
Would an actual sanctioned parade encourage others to come outside with their chillul Shabbos? And, thus be even worse?
Or, maybe we need to ban all of these public displays of Capital – Level Offenses.
The men are carrying the banner “Don’t Sodomize Jerusalem” I hear that.
How about “Don’t Helenize Jerusalem”
“No Open Shabbos Violations in the “Holy City” “
Though I am against the Gay Pride Parade, I am having trouble differentiating it from Chillul Shabbos and/or other avairos. Do we have to put up with public violations of our Holy Torah?
What are YOUR thoughts?
What does this say about the decadence of Israeli society, that such a proposal is even necessary!
Obviously we are all against a gay pride parade in yerusholayim.
Should we be somewhat concerned though that with the ever-expanding rightward direction of travel of the Jewish Orthodox movement, particularly in eretz yisroel, today the gay pride parade is shut down, tomorrow a rally in favor of secular marraige is banned, then the demonstration in favor of equal pay for equal work and so on and so forth, until hotels that host medical confrences at which fertility issues are addressed by top doctors in the field will be denied renewal of their business licenses.
I hope I am not spilling a state secret by pointing out that by Israeli charaidi standards we American charaidim are not charaidim.
Where will the line be drawn and who will draw it?
Every time this issue is brought up, it causes Chillul Hashem.Chillul Hashem berabim (publicly) is unforgivable.
Nothing we can do stop the parade, but we can do something and that is to stop talking about it.
we are back to the old question. What is the right of a state of jews to exist not based on Torah? The SOI should have to close down.
I’d love to see more attention and effort and attention given to constructive efforts that create something. Bans are so easy, but they only create negativity and promote an air of hostility. You can’t build a country or a society on bans.
from several of these postings we can see how modern [not necessarily goiesh because many fruma goyim strongly share this Torah view]haskafa has seeped into the frum world.it is not “rightward”to know that a gay parade is a descration of yerushalayim and is totally unacceptable.i live near w.hollywood,ca.you never saw people with less busha.therr is certainly no reason for us to have busha when standing up for Hasem’s torah
Shtika K’Hodoa Damya
That is why we MUST speak out. We do not have the option of remaining silent. We may not have the right to actually stop you from committing this abomination, but we have a Torah Obligation to open our mouths in opposition. To fail to do so, according to our Torah, is the moral equivalent of agreeing with it, making us share in the avaira. Hence, silence is not an option.
We can speak out respectfully. We can treat each of the people practicing the gay lifestyle with respect. But we must speak out and voice opposition. We don’t have a choice. The gay want freedom to do their thing, we need freedom to practice our religion, which implores us to speak out or be equally guilty.
This is not the same as to not “correct” somoene you know will ignore you.
We have a law, Hochaiach Tochiach, meaning one must tell a sinner that what he is doing is incorrect, and tell him the right way. However, rabbonim have said that if one knows for sure that this person will not listen, we should not speak out.
This is not the same. This is not against an individual, but against the entire “lifestyle” …
For us to remain silent, is for us to “Accept” it as good, “acceptable” behavior.
We understand that the community of people who practice gay behaviors want this acceptance. We are forbidden to do that accepting.
This is what he has to worry about? When half his constituency is hungry?
Okay, it’s not nice of them to march in Jerusalem. But why is this always the #1 crusade? Aren’t there more pressing issues for Shas to spend its energy on? Like, I don’t know, rampant poverty and unemployment in the haredi sector, underfunded schools, etc., etc., etc.,?!
What’s the big deal? Let them march and just ignore them. They want attention just like children. Shas is only feeding into them and empowering them.
Let’s have a serial killers parade too. Let them be?! What part of Abomination do you fail to understand?