New York – Community activist Mark Mayer Appel of NYC, and founder of Am-Achad, Will Be Appearing On the Zev Brenner show (WMCA RADIO 570 AM) tonight, March 14TH, 12 midnight, to discuss Queens Assemblywoman Margaret Markey and her bill before the new york state assembly, (a02596) which calls for extending the period of limitation for the prosecution of a sex offense, as defined by article 130 of the penal law.
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The bill, if passed into law, will increase the time limit for a victim to sue from 5 to 10 years and would open a 1 year opportunity in which a victim can sue a sexual predator regardless of their age and regardless of the timing of the event.
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He is rightfully beating up on Neiderman from Satmar and Zweibel VP of Agudah for trying to block the legislation. Great to see the chareidi true colors.
Ohel will lose its pants when the decades old molestation victims of Mondrowitz become eligible for litigation. Rabbis Elya Fisher and Dovid Cohen and so many more will be dragged to court in subpeonas for depositions. Heads will role. I can’t think of 1 member of the Moetzes that will get out without substantial damages when the truth rares its ugly head.
Bravo Tzvi! You did a better job then Appel. Should anyone ever need help in a molestation issue call Zvi Gluck. Pro bono support from a genuine askan who fears noone and fights the molesters even when it meens taking on the gedolim and the establishment.
Many years ago, ignorant people apparently believed that this was, like eating treif, just a sin. They did not know that this is serious emotional problem that will not go away without serious intervention.
There is treatment for sexual addictions.
But it doesn’t get treated if it’s swept under the rug.
Instead it grows into a cycle of abuse with victims all over the place.
A generation or two later, we are dealing with a nightmare.
Those who believed it would go away were WRONG.
These problems are almost impossible to treat once they become ingrained.
The confusion only intensifies.
And the denial becomes more and more desperate.
Enough is enough!
If someone hurt others and got help, they should contact their victims and apologize to them and offer restitution.
If they don’t do that, let them face the concequences.
It’s time to stop pretending that the Torah protects the guilty at the expense of the innocent.
Tzion b’mishpat tipadeh, v’shaveha b’tzdaka.
How can anyone call someone who protects child molesters a ‘gadol’?
Why we must oppose this bill:
We need to preserve Torah, and let’s face it we have plenty of molesters in the schools and always had, and if this bill passes we would lose some of our best mechanchim. Torah would suffer. Torah before safety! We need to mesirus nefesh. So kol hakavod to you Agudas Israel and Satmar for recognizing how vulnerable we our in out charedi schools, and you fight the true fight for torah.
Hashem help us that it should pass!
Commenter #6 expresses some popular myths, and these need to be debunked.
There are sexual addictions that are parallel in so many ways to the other addictions, such as alcohol, drugs, gambling, and others. Yes, these addictions can be treated, and the treatment parallels what is done for the other addictions. There is therapy, support groups (such as 12 step), and behavior change (abstinence).
When we discuss molesters, we are addressing quite a different issue, and these should not be confused. An addict (whichever) is a victim of sorts. He (or she) has lost the ability to exert self control over their behavior, and they compulsively engage in doing things that have negative consequences. They need help. The tendency to develop an addiction might be innate, for all we know, though there are clearly outside factors that affect the person and help bring the addictive behavior into the open. There are poor choices made, and the individual has some input (and responsibility) for the development of a full blown addiction. However, once the pattern is here, they have become a slave and victim to it, as they cannot wrestle the control needed to stop, without outside help.
While a molester might suffer from a sexual addiction, there is another issue occurring here, and this is the one that resists treatment. That is the tendency to victimize others for personal gain. One may not be able to stop himself from acting out sexually, but to do this at the expense of another is not the addiction. That abusiveness is not the addiction, and one cannot be broken of that pattern with therapy and support (12 step), even though there can be some minimal improvement (not enough to help the public).
Not every sex addict becomes abusive to others, and perhaps most don’t. They need help, and should get it and restore their lives to normal. The molester is a different ballgame. The theory in the above comment is that every molester begins as an addict whose problem was not treated. I disagree. A molester was a budding molester earlier, perhaps was not taking the risks of acting out, but was not a benign harmless addict. Perhaps the abuser can get some help, but the extent to which this will protect other potential victims is limited. We cannot ever sit back as rely on the therapy stuff, and we should also never be blinded by the line that “He did teshuvah.”
Agudath Israel and Satmar fought this legislation for a different reason. There are institutions that had issues 20 years ago. today those institutions are under different management, with different people working there. Imagine your sons yeshivah had to close down, because in 1972 someone was molested by a teacher who is now 78 and no longer working there!
Yes, we must do everything in our power to weed out those who seek to harm our children for their sick benefit, but not at the expense of our institutions!!
This should fall under the section of “vishinamtom livineicha” teach your children that its not ok for someone to do anything to you where you dont feel comfortable. Teach your children to report to you and to be open with you about it. Lets not go into a hatefull spate with our gedolim. Our gedolim are smarter and wiser then most of you think. Yes, ther will be an occasion when they mess up, but their human and the best of us screws up.
its very important to call
PLEASE CALL ASSEMBLYMAN JOSEPH LENTOL AT 1 518 455 4477 AND 718 383 7474
AND EXPRESS YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE MARKEY BILL (OA2596)
WITH GODS HELP WE WILL PREVAIL
not every one agrees that this bill is exactly wat we need now but as mark said on the show agudahs yisroal had enough time to come up with some else for a few years…… now we need some thing more to protect us for the future abuse and harasment ….its important
and if any one disagrees with any thing in this bill they may work on modifying the bill but for now we need it!!
mr joseph lentols office is closed sunday please call monday chazk
Mark Appel said exactly what had to be said. This bill ain’t perfect. Outrageously, public schools are exempt. Possibly, institutions that unknowingly kept teacher-molesters should also be exempt.
Nevertheless, we need a radical change and this bill is it. There’s no statute of limitations in the Torah or in Halacha.
A creep that molested a child ten years ago and psychologically crippled that child should not have the privilege of eating choulent and kugel.
Let the molester have the empty bed in the prison cell with Bernie Madoff.
Call Assembly Member Joseph Lentol at 518-455-4477 (or at 718-383-7474)m and register your support for the Markey Bill (OA2596).
Call Assembly Member Dov Hikind (718-853-9616) and let him know that he is strongly supported.
The Catholic Church, Satmar and the Agudah are only going to face the consequences of their own actions.
Mark Appel !1 Keep up the good fight !!!!!!
I sure hope you will step up to the plate, and put ur foot were your moute is & do as you ask the others to do.
All fancy legislations are totally useless unless the victems will have the courage to make use of the ammendment and drag their mollestors to court to face justice.
We shall all keep the preasure up, call your legislators non stop to vote yes for the bill.
But then the work 1st beggins which is to convince all the victems to act for the sake of the futture generations and take those beasts and drag them to finnaly pay for what they did.
Why is everyone bashing Agudah? They have not yet released their opinion. So far the Catholic Church, Satmar (Niederman) and the sephardic community council (David Greenfield) are the only ones opposing it. Everyone E-mail and call Agudah to support the bill and call the other people and let them know what you think of their opposition!