Albany, NY – Supporters of legislation that would put wine in grocery stores say the proposed bill is dead.
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Gov. David Paterson and the Legislature are in budget negotiations now, but according senior staffers familiar with the talks, the so-called wine bill has been taken off the table.
“We were shut down,” said Jennifer Carlson, who represents the Vote Wine 2009 coalition comprised of grape growers, grocery stores, wineries, the Farm Bureau and other organizations.
The legislation would have allowed grocery stores to obtain a license to sell wine. Current law allows only wine and liquor stores in New York to be licensed to do so.
Ms. Carlson attributes the defeat to the powerful liquor store lobby, which fought hard to oppose the legislation.
It would make all wine stores go down & the grocery stores wouldn’t necessarily make more money by selling wine
BTW it will be great for the consumers because it will be more competition and will not be priced like now, you need to understand that the owner has to make a living selling only wine and now IF almost every grocery will be able to sell it they make enough money from selling other stuff and not to put a big precentage commision on it.
The main point is, in Europe the laws of alcohol is much Moe lenient, and the death rate is much lower. Restriction is not the only solution!!
If this legislation would pass it would be very detrimental for recovering alchoholics. It is difficult enough for them to control their temptation to go to a liquor store to purchase alchohol. Why should they be tempted every time they go to buy groceries? As well as make it accessable at all times of the night?(As there are grocery stores that are open all night. While it would increase the revenue of these industries, many families would suffer. We as a community need to recognize that these problems permeates our community as we’ll. All of us should stan together and do all we can to fight against this.
Do they have a statistic that that’s a reduction of the youth drinking?
We here in Florida have this. It is very convenient to the consumer, and it helps keep prices low.
But it does create a problem in that there are no Frum wine stores. The competition is too stiff.
Also, there are some of us who have a minhag to buy only unopened cases of wine.
This supermarket issue means we need to buy only Mevushal.
Twice I asked the store managers to order me sealed cases of wine, and both times, they happily complied, and them opened the cartons when they arrived to “check” the contents. We obviously then did not take them.
Yes, I know that most paskin that it does not become staam yaynom just from handling or looking as a sealed bottle. But, some are machmir or that, and want no handling of bottles or sight of unsealed bottles.
Obviously, we are the customers who buy Kedem since they have only Shomer Shabbos employees in the plants up to the sealing of the cartons. So, their wines which are not mevushal, have not been handled out of a carton by any one not shomer shabbos.
WE have a hard time with this lack of frum wine stores.
But, to all the rest, they love it. They can buy their chicken, groceries, wine, fruits and vegetables, eggs, packaged good, everything they need, including a kosher bakery, at one store.
Can you tell me who the machmir is, (it’s a big different in price)
BTW the reason is very simple – why it’s kosher of kidush – because even touching don’t spoil if the bottle is closed, so even looking spoils to kidush, that’s only by an open bottle, d’ c hachudosh.
Wine prices do not stay lower, coming from a place where wine is sold everywhere, even in gas stations, it is not cheaper. It is refreshing to shop in a store where people know their product and can steer you in the right direction for that perfect bottle.