Deal, NJ – Rabbi Issac Dwek, the spiritual leader of the Sephardic Jewish community in the wealthy Monmouth County suburb of Deal, took to his pulpit on Saturday to cite the Talmudic Law of Moser that prohibits a Jew from informing on another Jew to a non-Jew.
wow , very strong thing to do 4 a father , i dont know if i can do that ,,,,,,,,,,hashem yreachaim
Bob
15 years ago
#333416
One day he will end up like Moshe Finkel from Monsey NY…………
Oy Gevalt!
15 years ago
#333418
Rabbi Dwek is a great man, and the Aibeshter should bless him with the continued strength to deal with this and any other problems that might arise. He single handedly, with the help of Hashem, built the city of Deal into a huge makom torah. Say what you want about the situation at large, but try not to talk about the Rav, he is truly a greatman, and I have heard many stories about his great deeds, and have witnessed some of them first hand! Shetizku leer’os binyon beis hamikdash eem mashiach tzidkeinu, BIMHEIRA biyameinu…AMEN!
Hasdei Hashem
15 years ago
#333420
Kol HaKavod! At the end of the day, we have to be reminded that our Mesorah tells us that there is rignt and wrong, good and evil, and this Rasha’s father is standing up for what’s right. We can only imagine how heart-wrenching this must be for a father to do. But at the same time, he is honoring Hakodush Boruch Hu and all of us by fulfilling his communal obligation.
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333421
How awful. whatever your son has done, including the worst kind of Moser, sitting Shiva is medieval and barbaric
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333422
Wow. How could such drek come from such a right tree?
Hashem Yerachem...
15 years ago
#333423
How sad! Sad for him, his entire family, and for Klal Yisroel Hamokem yenachem oso b’toch shar avelil Tzion v’Yerushalayim.
formally
15 years ago
#333427
I wonder, if the rabbinin are convicted or others who have been convicted of serious crime did their parents sit shiva for them. did any of the parents of the serial child molesters sit shiva for their children and disown them, I do not think so
I do live in a upside down world
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333429
Poor Rabbi, he is to be admired for doing the right thing, denouncing the low life career criminal that went around to prey on pious good hearted people to entrap them, despite for him being the rabbi’s son.
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333430
Rabbi Dweck is 100% following the Torah………
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333431
This makes us sound like gangsters. Better to denounce him for entrapping people, and playing on their pity. But to say it is against our religion to inform on a Jew who commits a crime to a non Jewish government, will only bring more antisemitism.
Menachem B.
15 years ago
#333432
That’s it? The Rav renounces his son? He says nothing about what a chillul hashem the people who were arrested have caused? Moser is the only Avayrah that was committed in the episode? Nothing else to renounce or denounce?
Rabbi B.
15 years ago
#333434
Kol Hakoved to Rabbi Issac Dwek! It most have been a very painful decision. But you did the right thing. Only HKB’H who knows whats on peoples hearts understands you. May he bless you with much nachas from the rest of your children and grandchildren. Be strong, I’m sure some good will come out of this.
Daas Torah Listener
15 years ago
#333437
sitting shiva is just as “medieval” and “barbaric” as wearing tefillin and as keeping shabbos. And I am confident that Rabbi Dweck knows a little more than some anonymous poster on voizneias.
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333444
Rabbi Dwek follows in the footsteps of Adam, Noach, Abraham, Isaac, Moshe, Dovid HaMelech and Shlomo HaMelech. All had sons who have gone off the derech.. Our religion believes in bechira – free choice and some times children will make wrong, incorrect decisions.. Some of us have it too, with children who have been mechalel shabbos, do pot, drink and smoke..
Rabbi Dwek, we all feel for you and your pain..
Dan Daoust
15 years ago
#333445
Couldn’t help but notice that the fraud charges in May 2006 didn’t exactly cause Rabbi Dwek to sit shiva.
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333449
the torah says a moiser has no olam haba,a rapist,murderer,child molester does have olam haba.if you dont like the torah,get yourself another religion,like dweck.
I was there
15 years ago
#333450
He didn’t say that, but he was crying like a baby in front of a 1,000 people. He almost couldn’t talk.
srgnmb
15 years ago
#333452
wou;d like to know what happen to his wife and kids? did he give her a get? think of what the kids must be going through. does anyone know his wife madian name? did she know anything or is she in the clear? who’s the lawyer if they found someone?
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333458
Rabbi Avigdor Miller zal said in his seforim that the cemetaries are full of children who died because of their parents’ indulgences. If Rabbi Dweck had been a better father and patched him as a child the first time he lied or cheated or stole, perhaps Solomon would have turned into a more admirable person. But Rabbi Dweck coddled and spoiled the child until he grew up and became a monster and deposited a fraudulent check for $25million, which Uncle Sam then utilized like Mr. Clean to clean up the dirty State of New Jersey. There is no excuse for shul rabbis and yeshiva rabbis to accepted dirty money! Solomon Dweck is not the “cause” of the community’s problem, he is the “exposer” of the problems. Sitting shiva for Solomon will not make the dirt go away; taking responsibility is the first step in changing everyone’s behavior.
sitting shiva
15 years ago
#333462
Where Dreck’s parents and family sitting shiva? whats the adress?
Whatever
15 years ago
#333464
Please remember that it’s an hallacha to sit shiva if your son is a musser. No such Halacha for chile molesters and other crimes. The rabbi is simply following the Torah by sitting shiva.
Yossi
15 years ago
#333466
I am a member of Chevra Kedishe and would love th have this case and bury him…
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333467
Imagine if the media takes notice that Rabbi Dwek sat shiva for his son the cooperating witness, but not for his son the scam artist. It’ll be almost as big a Chillul Hashem as the original scandal in the first place.
jj
15 years ago
#333469
i condemn the kidney rabbi more than solomon dwek
dreck enemy
15 years ago
#333470
Does anyone know where Solomon Dreck is hiding out?
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333489
What happens if he will not testify will the fed have a case? If not he could do tshuve and stop co-aperating
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333490
What happens if he will not testify will the fed have a case? If not he could do tshuve and stop co-aperating
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333492
#1 is an APIKORES! Moshe Kibel Tora MISINAI, how mediavel R’L!
BTW, SD commited fraud to the tune of $50 million willingly, thoughtfully, premeditated, calculatingly and with malice and he is OUR Governements hero but these poor arrested people who combined were caught with around 3 Million being entrapped they are the Criminals, Thieves, Fraudsters and Swindlers!
Is this where our Justice system is headed in OBAMALAND?
mikesdinette
15 years ago
#333494
The Shulchan Aruch & the Ramah were both authored by “mideval” authors; and by their words we live every aspect of our lives…See Y.D. 334 & C.M. 388;
can't comprehend
15 years ago
#333506
does any one know if the muser was humiliated, betrayed or otherwise hurt by his own family or community to enrage him like that?. its incomprehensible for someone to do this unless he was out for revenge of something. there’s got to be something going on it makes no sense.
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333507
There are those who were in attendance on Saturday who refute this account of what Rabbi Dweck said and claim that he did not at all say that he will sit Shiva for his son.
Akivah H
15 years ago
#333508
My rav gave a speech this week and this is what he said : Raboisa there is a big confusion in our community regarding ” Pidyon Shvuom” What we are hearing recently with achinu bais yisroel being arrested is really ” Pidyon Ganovim” Pidyon shevuom was always known as a situation where a jew was kidnapped by goim for his sin of being a jew for the Ransom. thats what the gemora and shilchun orich translates as being “pidyon shevuom” A person who commits a crime is not pidyon shuvuom .if you want to help him ,thats fine but dont call it pidyon shvuom call it “PIDYON GANOVIM”
sy
15 years ago
#333510
Does anyone know exactly what the rabbi said?
Rav Meilech
15 years ago
#333523
It´s a sad moment for Klal Yisrael. If I were in the US I´d pay Rav Dwek a shivah call. He´s doing exactly what he should be doing!
moshe g
15 years ago
#333524
Just out curiosity where is he sitting Shiva???? if Rabbi Shlomo Eiger sat shiva on his son Reb Leibel Eiger for becoming a chossid the don’t you think that Rabbi Dewek has the right to sit Shiva!!
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333538
What happens if the son does teshuvah? I understand he can’t take back the problems he’s caused for others, but he can still do teshuvah… as long as he is breathing, of course.
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333540
We ought the sit shiva for the kidney-selling dude. Solomon Dweck did a mitzvah by getting that crazed lunatic off the streets.
Anonymous
15 years ago
#333550
Oyyyyy! Just wondering is misaskim going 2 the dwek house in deal?
skazm
15 years ago
#333553
“He’s dead to me.” How frikkin’ Jersey.
On a serious note, my heart goes out to Rabbi Dweck, he put everything into raising a son who became truly evil, and may the rest of his children give him nachas.
Poor guy.
dan lecav zechus
15 years ago
#333555
do we have 2 kosher eidem saying he did it? did he have hasrua, even if he admidit it ein audom meisem atsmo rushu, so how do u have the chutzpah to acuse a man in this manner?
dan lecav zechus
15 years ago
#333556
recordings dont count al pee torah whats the matter with all of you
dan lecav zechus
15 years ago
#333559
and how do u know the pressure he was under AL TUDEN ES CHAVERCHU AD SHETAGEAH LIMKOMO
Dov
15 years ago
#333560
This Dreck made a REAL DRECK . The chofets chaim once told crying relatives of a ganov that was harshly sentenced . He said rachmonis on a ganov that was sentenced is abit to late,Crying should have been done that the ganiva should not happen. We should cry that we should not have ganovim. I feel for Rabbi Dweck but when he stole $300 million from his own syrian people i didnt hear such cries.
i cant belive how evreybody forgot about the pusuk LIFNEI EYVER LO SETAYN MICHSHOL, why not, let the other guy be omed binisuyen, ELU MAI a person cant be omed binisuyon so easly, what kind of right does the FBI HAVE TO ENTRAP SO MANY YIDIN, this is ANTISEMETISIM IN ITS GREATEST FORM, lets not forget by world war 2 when they started to arrest local rabbies and politicins, they also accused them of breaking the law, HASHEM YISMIREINO, this should end here and go no further. bbeas goal bimheyro biyomeinu
Loshon Hora
15 years ago
#333587
Reb Yitchock Verayoso, Hamokom Yinochem eschem Bsoch shar aveilei tzion veyrushalayim. At least the Rabbi condems the mesira & entrapment, & sees it as a Kamza UBra Kamza bllood libel on Klal Yisroel, not like all the self hating Jews, calling Rabbis names. An ansector of mine was in Jail & death row for a blood libel[he got off] the story with the matzos etc. You people would also be saying he did it for the Matzos.
Deal, NJ – Rabbi Issac Dwek, the spiritual leader of the Sephardic Jewish community in the wealthy Monmouth County suburb of Deal, took to his pulpit on Saturday to cite the Talmudic Law of Moser that prohibits a Jew from informing on another Jew to a non-Jew.
nebach! drek will burn in gehenom for all this!
wow , very strong thing to do 4 a father , i dont know if i can do that ,,,,,,,,,,hashem yreachaim
One day he will end up like Moshe Finkel from Monsey NY…………
Rabbi Dwek is a great man, and the Aibeshter should bless him with the continued strength to deal with this and any other problems that might arise. He single handedly, with the help of Hashem, built the city of Deal into a huge makom torah. Say what you want about the situation at large, but try not to talk about the Rav, he is truly a greatman, and I have heard many stories about his great deeds, and have witnessed some of them first hand! Shetizku leer’os binyon beis hamikdash eem mashiach tzidkeinu, BIMHEIRA biyameinu…AMEN!
Kol HaKavod! At the end of the day, we have to be reminded that our Mesorah tells us that there is rignt and wrong, good and evil, and this Rasha’s father is standing up for what’s right. We can only imagine how heart-wrenching this must be for a father to do. But at the same time, he is honoring Hakodush Boruch Hu and all of us by fulfilling his communal obligation.
How awful. whatever your son has done, including the worst kind of Moser, sitting Shiva is medieval and barbaric
Wow. How could such drek come from such a right tree?
How sad! Sad for him, his entire family, and for Klal Yisroel
Hamokem yenachem oso b’toch shar avelil Tzion v’Yerushalayim.
I wonder, if the rabbinin are convicted or others who have been convicted of serious crime did their parents sit shiva for them. did any of the parents of the serial child molesters sit shiva for their children and disown them, I do not think so
I do live in a upside down world
Poor Rabbi, he is to be admired for doing the right thing, denouncing the low life career criminal that went around to prey on pious good hearted people to entrap them, despite for him being the rabbi’s son.
Rabbi Dweck is 100% following the Torah………
This makes us sound like gangsters. Better to denounce him for entrapping people, and playing on their pity. But to say it is against our religion to inform on a Jew who commits a crime to a non Jewish government, will only bring more antisemitism.
That’s it? The Rav renounces his son? He says nothing about what a chillul hashem the people who were arrested have caused? Moser is the only Avayrah that was committed in the episode? Nothing else to renounce or denounce?
Kol Hakoved to Rabbi Issac Dwek! It most have been a very painful decision. But you did the right thing. Only HKB’H who knows whats on peoples hearts understands you. May he bless you with much nachas from the rest of your children and grandchildren. Be strong, I’m sure some good will come out of this.
sitting shiva is just as “medieval” and “barbaric” as wearing tefillin and as keeping shabbos. And I am confident that Rabbi Dweck knows a little more than some anonymous poster on voizneias.
Rabbi Dwek follows in the footsteps of Adam, Noach, Abraham, Isaac, Moshe, Dovid HaMelech and Shlomo HaMelech. All had sons who have gone off the derech.. Our religion believes in bechira – free choice and some times children will make wrong, incorrect decisions.. Some of us have it too, with children who have been mechalel shabbos, do pot, drink and smoke..
Rabbi Dwek, we all feel for you and your pain..
Couldn’t help but notice that the fraud charges in May 2006 didn’t exactly cause Rabbi Dwek to sit shiva.
the torah says a moiser has no olam haba,a rapist,murderer,child molester does have olam haba.if you dont like the torah,get yourself another religion,like dweck.
He didn’t say that, but he was crying like a baby in front of a 1,000 people. He almost couldn’t talk.
wou;d like to know what happen to his wife and kids? did he give her a get? think of what the kids must be going through. does anyone know his wife madian name? did she know anything or is she in the clear? who’s the lawyer if they found someone?
Rabbi Avigdor Miller zal said in his seforim that the cemetaries are full of children who died because of their parents’ indulgences. If Rabbi Dweck had been a better father and patched him as a child the first time he lied or cheated or stole, perhaps Solomon would have turned into a more admirable person. But Rabbi Dweck coddled and spoiled the child until he grew up and became a monster and deposited a fraudulent check for $25million, which Uncle Sam then utilized like Mr. Clean to clean up the dirty State of New Jersey. There is no excuse for shul rabbis and yeshiva rabbis to accepted dirty money! Solomon Dweck is not the “cause” of the community’s problem, he is the “exposer” of the problems. Sitting shiva for Solomon will not make the dirt go away; taking responsibility is the first step in changing everyone’s behavior.
Where Dreck’s parents and family sitting shiva? whats the adress?
Please remember that it’s an hallacha to sit shiva if your son is a musser. No such Halacha for chile molesters and other crimes. The rabbi is simply following the Torah by sitting shiva.
I am a member of Chevra Kedishe and would love th have this case and bury him…
Imagine if the media takes notice that Rabbi Dwek sat shiva for his son the cooperating witness, but not for his son the scam artist. It’ll be almost as big a Chillul Hashem as the original scandal in the first place.
i condemn the kidney rabbi more than solomon dwek
Does anyone know where Solomon Dreck is hiding out?
What happens if he will not testify will the fed have a case? If not he could do tshuve and stop co-aperating
What happens if he will not testify will the fed have a case? If not he could do tshuve and stop co-aperating
#1 is an APIKORES! Moshe Kibel Tora MISINAI, how mediavel R’L!
BTW, SD commited fraud to the tune of $50 million willingly, thoughtfully, premeditated, calculatingly and with malice and he is OUR Governements hero but these poor arrested people who combined were caught with around 3 Million being entrapped they are the Criminals, Thieves, Fraudsters and Swindlers!
Is this where our Justice system is headed in OBAMALAND?
The Shulchan Aruch & the Ramah were both authored by “mideval” authors; and by their words we live every aspect of our lives…See Y.D. 334 & C.M. 388;
does any one know if the muser was humiliated, betrayed or otherwise hurt by his own family or community to enrage him like that?. its incomprehensible for someone to do this unless he was out for revenge of something. there’s got to be something going on it makes no sense.
There are those who were in attendance on Saturday who refute this account of what Rabbi Dweck said and claim that he did not at all say that he will sit Shiva for his son.
My rav gave a speech this week and this is what he said : Raboisa there is a big confusion in our community regarding ” Pidyon Shvuom” What we are hearing recently with achinu bais yisroel being arrested is really ” Pidyon Ganovim” Pidyon shevuom was always known as a situation where a jew was kidnapped by goim for his sin of being a jew for the Ransom. thats what the gemora and shilchun orich translates as being “pidyon shevuom” A person who commits a crime is not pidyon shuvuom .if you want to help him ,thats fine but dont call it pidyon shvuom call it “PIDYON GANOVIM”
Does anyone know exactly what the rabbi said?
It´s a sad moment for Klal Yisrael. If I were in the US I´d pay Rav Dwek a shivah call.
He´s doing exactly what he should be doing!
Just out curiosity where is he sitting Shiva????
if Rabbi Shlomo Eiger sat shiva on his son Reb Leibel Eiger for becoming a chossid the don’t you think that Rabbi Dewek has the right to sit Shiva!!
What happens if the son does teshuvah? I understand he can’t take back the problems he’s caused for others, but he can still do teshuvah… as long as he is breathing, of course.
We ought the sit shiva for the kidney-selling dude. Solomon Dweck did a mitzvah by getting that crazed lunatic off the streets.
Oyyyyy! Just wondering is misaskim going 2 the dwek house in deal?
“He’s dead to me.” How frikkin’ Jersey.
On a serious note, my heart goes out to Rabbi Dweck, he put everything into raising a son who became truly evil, and may the rest of his children give him nachas.
Poor guy.
do we have 2 kosher eidem saying he did it? did he have hasrua, even if he admidit it
ein audom meisem atsmo rushu, so how do u have the chutzpah to acuse a man in this manner?
recordings dont count al pee torah whats the matter with all of you
and how do u know the pressure he was under AL TUDEN ES CHAVERCHU AD SHETAGEAH LIMKOMO
This Dreck made a REAL DRECK . The chofets chaim once told crying relatives of a ganov that was harshly sentenced . He said rachmonis on a ganov that was sentenced is abit to late,Crying should have been done that the ganiva should not happen. We should cry that we should not have ganovim. I feel for Rabbi Dweck but when he stole $300 million from his own syrian people i didnt hear such cries.
agree with #16 ……nu anyone have a response…..
i cant belive how evreybody forgot about the pusuk LIFNEI EYVER LO SETAYN MICHSHOL, why not, let the other guy be omed binisuyen, ELU MAI a person cant be omed binisuyon so easly, what kind of right does the FBI HAVE TO ENTRAP SO MANY YIDIN, this is ANTISEMETISIM IN ITS GREATEST FORM, lets not forget by world war 2 when they started to arrest local rabbies and politicins, they also accused them of breaking the law, HASHEM YISMIREINO, this should end here and go no further.
bbeas goal bimheyro biyomeinu
Reb Yitchock Verayoso,
Hamokom Yinochem eschem Bsoch shar aveilei tzion veyrushalayim.
At least the Rabbi condems the mesira & entrapment, & sees it as a Kamza UBra Kamza bllood libel on Klal Yisroel, not like all the self hating Jews, calling Rabbis names. An ansector of mine was in Jail & death row for a blood libel[he got off] the story with the matzos etc. You people would also be saying he did it for the Matzos.
enough with all this kitrug for goodness sake
he has a right to a fare din torah