Israel – Judge Proposes Compromise in Beit Yaacov Separation of Ashkenazi, Mizrahi Girls

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    Court room after Judge Edmond Levy proposed an outline agreement during a deliberation in the High Court about the separation of Ashkenazi and Mizrahi girls at the Haredi school in Emmanuel, Beit Yaacov Jerusalem on April 29,2010..photo by Abir Sultan/Flash 90Israel – Dozens of parents, teachers, and students have gathered at the High Court of Justice for a hearing on the cancellation of separation between Ashkenazi and Sephardic students at the ultra-Orthodox girls’ school Beit Yaacov in Emmanuel.

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    “We will fight and do everything in our power in order to prevent others from telling us how to raise our children,” one of the parents told Ynet.

    Judge Edmond Levy proposed an outline agreement during a deliberation in the High Court about the separation. Levy opined that this should enable the sides to reach an agreement.

    Supreme Court Justice Hanan Meltzer ruled that the separation between Ashkenazi and Mizrahi girls “smells of racism.”

    Meltzer ruled in response to claims by Attorney Arieh Holzer, representing the independent education stream, that “from the parents’ point of view, there is no way their daughter, who watches television, will study with Haredi girls.” Holzer also said, “I am willing to bet that the girls on this track (Mizrahi) have televisions at home, and the others (Ashkenazi) do not.”

    But according to Levy’s proposal, all the girls will return to school on Sunday, and during the first week they will remain separated. During this time, the Ministry of Education will draw up guidelines for acceptance in the Haredi track, and in case of disagreement, Rabbi Yaacov Yosef will have the final say.

    They are expected to give their response within a few days.


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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    The Torah way won! Sidon netzach

    David
    David
    13 years ago

    Simple solution: if people want to run schools that discriminate based on ethnicity, then they should pay for it themselves. If they’re going to keep accepting money from the state, then they need to adhere to some of the state’s policies, including policies outlawing their nasty, ignorant bigotry.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    it smells of racism,no solid proof even!

    Torah Truth
    Torah Truth
    13 years ago

    How disgraceful! We talk about Ahavas Yisrael and Kiruv Richokim but it seems these are only words to many of our Chareidi people. I can understand not wanting your children to be in school with children who have a different set of values. Then make the separation based on a value system! If you run a school where the standard is no TV then “discriminate” based on that and that alone! If the standard is no internet (BTW, everyone reading this and who agreed with this post would be included) then that should be the demarcation. What is this Ashkenazi and Sefardi thing that is so prevalent in Eretz Yisrael and is spreading to the US as well? What is wrong with us? Please explain. What makes the Mesorah from Lita superior to the Mesorah from any other part of the world? Wake up my friends. Stop looking at Tznius as the issue to be addressed for the Geulah and look at the mirror… it is US!

    Chaim
    Chaim
    13 years ago

    This compromise seems rational and fair – it must be assur

    Torah Truth
    Torah Truth
    13 years ago

    And for all of you that don’t think this is racisim please allow me to share a quote from another frum website…

    “As the Emanuel Beis Yaakov case takes a prominent place in Thursday’s news in Israel, with the sides and parents appearing before the Supreme Court, Jerusalem Councilman Yitzchak Pindrus grabbed his own news headline, releasing a statement “In chareidi education, we don’t accept Sephardim, monkeys, Russians and Ethiopians”.”

    HaShem Yirachem!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Without knowing the details I am SURE that parents did not insist on separation based on racism.

    Reply to David
    Reply to David
    13 years ago

    How do you deal with the very real differences in levels of observance? Also, this is a religious school, so whose laws would you teach the girls? Would you compromise depth of teaching in order to teach them only surface level of both? Integration doesn’t help any of the girls, does it?

    casey
    casey
    13 years ago

    Who needs arabs to hate jews ? Here we see that jews hate jews!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    STOP THE HATE AND MOSHEOCH WILL COME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    thank u no.13
    thank u no.13
    13 years ago

    most ppl only believe what they read in the secular media
    this story is really so untrue from what was printed
    it is about a frum group of parents who wish a frum education for their children and YES they have a right to ask for payments, being that they are a part of israel
    with their own money they founded a new school, bought furniture etc
    it is sad that our own mus destroy all we build

    Yosef
    Yosef
    13 years ago

    Thanks number 16! I am a Sephardic Haredi parent, formerly Mizrachi. My children now attend Satmer school in Boro Park. Zero racism there, more than a few Yemenite and Syrian families, but if I had showed up in a knitted kipa with short sleeves and flip-flop sandals with a magen David necklace, they would not have been inclined to trust our children with theirs, how can anyone force themselves on a community like that? It baffles me to think that people are so naive to think that children don’t influence each other…

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    If they’re not racist, why do they insist that the Sfardi girls read Hebrew with Ashkenazi accents?

    Charlie Hall
    Charlie Hall
    13 years ago

    Kudos to Judge Levy! He is himself religious and is trusting a prominent rabbi to do what is right.

    avrumi
    avrumi
    13 years ago

    I just wanted to say something about the issue: when I was in yeshiva gedolah, reb aharon leib shteinman came once for a kinus about chinuch near the yeshiva.
    when asked if it is mutar to accept kids with a TV at home he answered with a conspicuous wisdom:
    “according to u Avrohom Ovinu wouldn’t have been accepted in our school because of his father terah’ who was serving avoda zarah. However, esav would have been accepted since his father was Avrohom.” The ikar is to consider each kid with all his capacities to become a erliche yid or even a great talmid chochom.

    Motti
    Motti
    13 years ago

    It is amazing how Sephardim turn into Mizrachim! This just shows, again, that people see Sephardim as not so religious, if at all.
    At the beginning the problem was between Ashkenazim and then Sephardim, now we can see that the only problem Ashkenazim have there is their superior complex to Sephardim (Maroccain, Yemenite, etc…). The only truely religious people, chreidim, can be Ashkenazim and Chassidim!
    I hope Moshiach will come very soon to sort this big mess out!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    NO television I get but internet? Stop living in the stone ages. You can filter objectionable material. You sit in the dark while our enemy, despite wearing burkas does this:
    From Debbie Schlussel’s blog. “Number of free OLPC [one laptop per child] laptops paid for to be delivered in the future to Palestinian Muslim kids in HAMAS Gaza, Fatah West Bank, Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan”
    Take a look at the article at debbieschlussel.com and you will see a WOMAN in full regalia doing the teaching.

    BTW, I am Sephardia living in Israel. And it IS true about the Hebrew pronunciation and all the other accusations. We are seen as sub human when a deputy mayor of Jerusalem can get away with comparing us to monkeys.