Ankara – While continuing his harsh accusations against Israel over its deadly raid on an aid flotilla, the Turkish prime minister said he does not see Hamas as a terrorist organization, but as a resisting group struggling for its own land.
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“They [Hamas] won the election. You are always talking about democracy. You’ll never let Hamas rule. What kind of democracy is this?” Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said Friday at a rally held in Konya, a central Anatolian province. He addressed thousands of people gathered at the rally with very strong anti-Israel sentiments.
“I do not think that Hamas is a terrorist organization. I said the same thing to the United States. I am still of the same opinion. They are Palestinians in resistance, fighting for their own land,” he stated. Hamas is recognized as a terrorist organization by the U.S.
Criticizing the Turkish media for its critical coverage on Turkey’s pro-Hamas stance, Erdoğan said, “These columnists will report my words of today as well. We know their past, their background.”
Repeating his harsh words against the Israeli government over Monday’s incident, the prime minister recalled that one of the orders of the Ten Commandments prohibits Jews from killing. “If you do not understand it in Turkish I will say it in English: You shall not kill,” he said. He also said the same phrase in Hebrew.
“They even slaughtered 19-year-old Furkan. They did not even care for the babies in the cradle,” Erdoğan said.
What about the 1.5 million Armenians slaughtered by the Turks? “Lo- Tirzach” Mr. President…???
Ymach shmoi!!
“The Torah Says also ‘Midvar Shaker Tircuk’
One of the ten commands is also to observe shabbos! And the israeli goverment does not do that either!
what does he need? he doesnt sount ok to me. could be he just needs attantion, if his own media understands Israel, whats his questions? if Hamas is not a terorist group who is a teror group? only Armanians are…? Bin Ladin is also fighting for his homeland…
I guess the Koran says “You Should Alway Kill” its mind boggling when muslims kill their own all over the world even bombimg mosques you never hear anything from muslim leaders around the world.
What happened with Loy Cirzach whem the Turkish slaughtered millions of Armenians..? Israel has NO problem with the Ten commandments….They eat Chazer,Mechalel shabos,Chumetz on pesach,and fressen on Yom Kipper…
The Koran says “Lie, and pretend to be at peace with your enemies, but arm yourself for conflict, and then attack them when they least expect it.”
According to Umdat as-Salik, a medieval summary of Shafi’i jurisprudence, hudnas with a non-Muslim enemy should be limited to 10 years: “if Muslims are weak, a truce may be made for ten years if necessary, for the Prophet made a truce with the Quraysh for that long, as is related by Abu Dawud” (‘Umdat as-Salik, o9.16).
it’s a shame that a non-jew needs to educate the israelies about the torah and it’s mitzvos.
it seems that the turkish are not familiar with NK slogan “torah forbids a jewish state until Moshiach”. the israelies laugh from all 613 mitzvos, why should they care about Lo Tirzach?
The people at the boats wanted to break the blockade of Gaza.
The people in gaza want to do what we know they are capable of doing.
Mr Erdogan, the Torah says habo leorgecho hashkem leorgoi.
If somebody comes to kill you, kill him first.
this cross between a hitler look alike and a pug dog was Israel’s “ally” in the middle east? Rough Stuff!
Where was his condemnation when Hammas was firing its 10,000 rockets
the torah says habo lihorgoch haskeim vihargei
Even though there should not be a Jewish state or army before the coming of mosiach.
My answer to him is the same torah that says lo tIrzoch say habu lhorgoch hashkim lhorgo (if some body wants to kill you kill him first)
The Torah says “Thou Shall Not Murder,” not “Thou Shall Not Kill.” The Muslims are the murderers, and as the Torah says, “If one is coming to kill you, rise early and kill him first.”
I think he got smicha from Arafat.
why don’t they let hamas move to turkey. then they can see if they like them.
but if you do your stock with them. don’t try sending them back to isreal
Mr. Erdogan, unlike Muslim countries, Israel is a secular state and does not dictate its governmental policies based on bible stories in 21 century. It would help Muslim countries to do the same and lay off the Koran. The Middle East will be safer when governments and people stop pushing ancient texts to shed blood for nothing.
This is a general comment, not particular for this article.
Why are some commentors always so quick to point out things – l’kanter al benei yisrael?
Is he shomer shabbos, did Bibi sit down to fress chazer treif after bravely quoting the Torah as his source for our right to Eretz Yisrael, etc. Always looking for the negative in other Jews. OK, we’ll admit it. You are the ultimate Jews! You can have a plaque if you want. Who cares? The Israeli government are Jews. Period. They are our brothers.
At a time like this, when the world is clearly ganging up against us (all of us – Rosheichem Shofteichem until Sho’ev Meimecha) can’t we find the common-denominators within us (and there are so many!) and try to strengthen ourselves and each other?
And is Al Qaeda also not a terrorist organization? If Al Qaeda would be elected in Afganistan would you also say that “They [Al Qaeda ] won the election. You are always talking about democracy. You’ll never let Al Qaeda rule. What kind of democracy is this?”
i thought they are supposed to keep the seven mitzvos of noach. in addition if he knows the commandments he should also know what it says in the torah that hashem gave eretz yisroel to his chosen people, the Yidden. so mr turkey get your info corrects and learn all the aspects before your start preaching for what is convenient for you.
The people at the boats wanted to break the blockade of Gaza.
The people in gaza want to do what we know they are capable of doing.
Mr Erdogan, the Torah says “habo leorgecho hashkem leorgoi”:
If somebody comes to kill you, kill him first.
Chazal tell us that a non-jew that learns the Torah punishable by death, Kein Yehe Ratzon.
What ican’t understand for the life of mine is why hasn’t Israel rebuffed this hitler once yet? Why are they letting him look like he’s in control and has total threatning power over them? Can’t they put him into place? Can’t they at least keep on bringing up the massacre that they have committed against the armanians??
Mind Boggling…
A Messagae to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, If you truly belive that HAMAS is NOt a Terrorist Organization, then i would advice you to fly to Gaza and asked them to return Gilad Shalit and only then can Israel open the blockade of Gaza. Hair will grow on the palmb of my hand before they (HAMAS) would perform.
It also says in the Torah that the land of Israel is OURS!! What about the Armenians that were slaughtered by the Turks? The list goes on and on!
simple way of dealing with him and his country.
Israel should quietly point out to Israelis who like to vacation in Turkey and do business there that “perhaps” they should find other places like the Greek part of Cyprus. (Note–despite the UN, Turkey is occupying half of Cyprus)
Nothing like hitting people where it hurts–the pocket book.
Then, maybe, they will realize there are consequences.
How many Israelis go to Turkey for vacations!
I don’t worry about the rantings of this little hitler. I do worry however, about the comments on this frum website from some of our brethren who will use ANY opportunity to knock Medinas Yisroel, and its Manhigim. The fact that the secular leaders in Eretz Yisroel don’t keep Shabbos is not their fault, they are clearly Tinokos Shenishbah. But what is your excuse exactly for knocking them and for siding with the enemy during this time of Eis Tzorah L’ Yaakov? What will you tell HKB’H on your Yom Hadin? Why did you participate in the biggest Chillul Hashem of our lifetime when you marched in Manhattan this past monday against the Medinah when Jews were in pain and suffering all over world due to the sheker and negative publicity over the Hate Boat sent from Turkey? Please rehearse well and practice your answers to those questions- because when you get to 120 you will need to have a coherent response to that final exam….
and the torah says when your enemy comes to destroy you shoul smitten them and not leave any one alive, for they will always be your enemies from within
“I do not think that Hamas is a terrorist organization”
well that would depend on how you define terrorisim!
this is not a matter of opinion, it is a fact.
The Israeli kill babies? 19 Y/O is a baby? well then what do you call the arabs that kill one year olds? Murder people that are just taking the bus to work.. not ‘piece’ activists.
If you dont want to see the truth, thats fine. But stop voicing your silly sand untrue statements.
And the people of Cyprus will stand up against Turkey who occupies their land, what will he say then? He learned the nice Torah phrase from Sheik Yisroel Dovid Weiss from Neturei Karta who went there to kiss up.
Tell this guy erodgin siyug la chachma shtika he is over doing this, tell stop killing Kurdistan stop occupying Cyprus and make peace with the Greeks.
As soon as this guy (who is clearly attempting to show how far he is willing to go to distance himself from his country’s previous relationship with Israel) says something so ridiculous, that Hamas is not a terrorist organization, he is immediately discredited.
His extremism will actually work against him.
No matter how far anti-Israeli the world community is, I believe this man’s crossing a line that even the UN (ym”sh) are willing to cross.
To #9 you a liar like the Turk
The Torah does not forbid a state before Moshiach. It is a blatant historic lie, There are numerous references in the poskin how to deal with an enemy on shaboos and otherwise. There is nowhere in the Halacha such an Issur. It is a Pshetl perpetrated by the sefer Vayoel Moshe. It does not obligate anyone except his followers.
what does bibi n. Have With the torah?
Mr Erdagon, your country declared IHH a terrorist organization a few years ago. In 1992 France did as well, — the CIA now says it has ties to Al Queda. Now you are holding hands with this organization and saying it is a “Peace Organization”??? This same IHH caused the bombings in Los Angeles , and in other parts of the United States. What kind of coffee of water are you drinking???
mocho timche es zecher amalek mitachas hashamayim – lo sishkach
Don’t forget to utteryly wipe out the rememberance of amalek
Mr erdogan needs to brush up on his bible
I think that “ZUCHOIR AS YOIM HASHABBOS” is before “LO SIRTZOCH”!!!
so first they should keep shobbos then should the terks scream lo sitzoch!!!…..
Mr. Turkish president you are occupying this world please get off! We support our Jewish brothers. We reject those who do not stand together with Hashem’s people. Yeshayahu said “Comfort Comfort My People” The commentaters say that no matter what sins the Jews do they are still My people. Any Jew who does not accept this teaching has no share in the Torah of Moshe our teacher. Therefore, those unlearned Jews who condemn Israel because they are Zionists are less religious than the very Jews they condemn!
the rambam holds that lo tirtzach is only on killing a jew, killing a goy is an issur d’rabbanan
Mr.Erdogan, how dare you tell the Israeli government who not to kill? The Israeli government was democratically elected, and they wanted a government who protects its citizens, and they wanted a government who abides by the rule of law and fair combat. If we want to destroy Hamas, this is our democratic right. Surely it would make much more sense to a normal human being also, but it so happens, this was a democratic decision too.
Hamas may rule the Palestinians, but they must then be destroyed along with the rest of them, in that case. Ir is you who interprets it like that. So you should be very happy if that happens.
Yimach Shemo Veshem Zichro!
If Turkey wont stop this , Israel will prepare a nice thanksgiving dinner very soon.
Israel forever!
People in glass houses should not throw stones..
How would Turkey like if Israel gave aid and comfort to the Kurds in Kurdistan as they are giving to Hamas? How about the 1915 Turkish genocide and massacre of 1.5 million Armenians? Why doesn’t Turkey acknowledge and apologize for this historic injustice?
The Breisa in the end of Mesectes Soitah say ind the end od days “Chutzpah yasgay” Chutzpah will increase. Here comes the head of the only the only Country that was under Islamic rule in the early 20th century and used it’s power to kill 1.5 million civilian Armenians. The country whose model of “confiscation, confinement, and deportation” was later used by the Third Reich. Greater chutzpah then that does not exist. I Guess he was jealous that his Iranian friend President I-am-a-nut-job was getting all the attention.
lo tirtzach means “do not murder” – as in premeditated.
One may kill in self-defense (chayekha kodem, ba bamachteres, etc).
I love when people who don’t know any Torah use the Torah as their proofs.