New York – State Plans to Eliminate 170,000 Canada Geese

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    New York – It’s a doomsday plan for New York’s geese.

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    A nine-page report put together by a variety of national, state and city agencies shows that officials hope to reduce the number of Canada geese in New York to 85,000 from 250,000.

    That means that roughly 170,000 geese — two-thirds of the population — will be killed.

    The nearly 400 geese gassed to death this month after being rounded up in Prospect Park in Brooklyn — as well as an unknown number of other geese killed in New York City in recent weeks — were but a small part of the ambitious overall goal outlined in the document, which was obtained by City Room.

    “The state of New York has close to 250,000 resident Canada geese, which is more than three times the state’s population goal of 85,000,” the report states. It is unknown how many have been killed so far.

    The plan, according to a high-level official at the United States Department of Agriculture, was a result of five months of meetings between February and June 2009, after the crash of US Airways Flight 1549 in the Hudson River. Canada geese hit both of the jet’s engines, causing the splashdown.

    Those attending the meetings that yielded the plan included officials from the New York City Department of Parks and Recreation, the National Park Service and key staff members from Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s office, the official said.

    He said that politicians peppered officials from the Department of Agriculture with questions about the science and asked how many goose strikes had occurred and the danger they posed. They learned that there have been 78 Canada goose strikes over 10 years in New York, and that those strikes caused more than $2.2 million in aircraft damage.

    The plan was written with the approval of everyone at that table, the official said, including this paragraph:

    “The captured geese are placed alive in commercial turkey crates. The geese would be brought to a secure location and euthanized with methods approved by the American Veterinary Medical Association. Euthanized geese would be buried.”

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    5T Resident
    5T Resident
    15 years ago

    This is disgusting. What right do we have to kill so many of Hashem’s creatures? Is there not a way to capture these geese, transport them to the wild and release them there? Why do they have to be killed, especially GASSED??

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Hopefully someone will come to their senses and “thin out” the bear population in Sullivan county and remove these annoying & dangerous bike lines in NYC

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    If they have to slaughter these geese at least they should make use of their meat and feathers.

    Loshon Hora
    Loshon Hora
    15 years ago

    I am not sure we have a kabolah on them & their Kashrus, but why could they not be slaughteredin a bird kill plant & their meat used for the homeless it would be cheaper, & serve a purpose. Geese meat is more expensive than chicken.

    mikey
    mikey
    15 years ago

    Oh PETA, where are you?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    why not slaughter them and feed the homeless?

    all they’re going to do is gas them and bury them!

    100,000 geese could feed how many?

    and don’t tell me, it’s because we don’t know if they’re sick or not good enough.

    something smells foul/fowl!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    yeah, if there is a good mesorah on these geese, maybe we can eat them! i’ve been asking my butcher for goose for the longest time, but he says no one is shechting goose (any tips appreciated!).

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Question to all you who have such rachmonus. If your child or parent were on a plane that was hit by 12 Canadian geese flying, and the plane crashed with no survivors, how much pity would you have on the geese? Would one single child be worth 170,000 geese? Will anyone here actually say to me, yes I’ll risk my child’s life with the not so often occurance of geese strikes, in order to save the geese? Believe me the prospect of uselessly killing so many living creatures makes me shudder. But hearing of a plane crash in which 272 humans were killed makes me shudder more.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    this is what happens when people impede on wildlife. Why kill the bears or the geese? they were there first!

    ernie kugel
    ernie kugel
    15 years ago

    Totally discusting. I can’t even read anymore. What has become of freedom for geese? Nebach. Gevald. Oy vey. Hashem yirachem. Tateh zeeseh.

    eappelbaum
    eappelbaum
    15 years ago

    I agree with Mikey — how does PETA not get involved here?

    Oiber Chuchem
    Oiber Chuchem
    15 years ago

    Send them back to Canada.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    According to Halacha, one is forbidden to do anything, which places their lives and/or health in danger. Therefore, in order to protect one’s life and health, it makes perfect sense to eliminate the Candian Geese. The FAA has not approved of any aircraft engine (nor do any exist on any commercial or military aircraft in the world), which is capable of withstanding flocks of 12 pound Canadian Geese, or other similar birds. For other 50 years, this problem has been ignored by the FAA. In 1960, a bird strike near Boston, brought down an Eastern Air Lines flight, killing over 50 passengers. There have been other fatalities involving other commercial and military flights, because of bird strikes. Let us stop shedding crocodile tears for the Canadian Geese, as those creatures are a menace to commercial, military, and general aviation.

    Liberalism is a Disease!!!
    Liberalism is a Disease!!!
    15 years ago

    WHO CARES how they are killed! They are rodents with a big wingspan. They are in the way of the needs of the PEOPLE. Of course peta yemach sh’mom v’zichrom doesnt care about people but WE SHOULD. The gemora in Chulin talks about killing animals for the need of people (and NOT for food). Its 1000% muttar!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    When I was a kid, the only place you’d see Canada geese was up in the sky when they were migrating. It’s only in recent years that they have become year-round residents in New York State. They stay because food is available. There was a letter in Hamodia decrying the extermination of the Prospect Park geese, saying that they used to enjoy feeding them. If you feed them, they’ll stay, become a nuisance, and have to be exterminated. So if you have rachmonis on the geese, you won’t feed them.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    and what do the rishei yisroel of peta say