New York – A Jewish Rabbi is blaming Hurricane Sandy on gays, calling devastation of New York ‘divine justice’ for the city’s same-sex marriage laws.
Rabbi Noson Leiter of Torah Jews for Decency compared the superstorm which swept across the US eastern coast this week to a biblical disaster.
‘We believe that the great flood at the time of Noah…[was] triggered by the recognition of same-gender marriages,’ the cleric said, reported Right Wing Watch.
Who is this Rabbi with nevuah? Another Yehuda Levin?
Shoin! I was waiting for this. How have I lived all my life without this know it all’s comments? Apparently he thinks he is a spokesperson for Hashem.
wasn`t sandy a planned attack from Iran??…
Oh really?! So why did Sandy ALSO hit about 7 *other* states besides New York as well?! :-\
Why does everyone think they have to “speak for G-d” when something like a natural disaster happens?! I can think of a whole HOST of reasons why HaShem might send a hurricane to the people after all!
Take a look at how awful we were treating one another right up until the event happened! Could it be possible that HaShem saw us moving further & further away from one another as a Creation & as a people, and decided to do what was necessary to bring us closer together?! Even if that meant bringing a tragedy?! Since unfortunately, that is the ONLY thing that helps to bring a people together in tough times?!
Point is: there are a whole host of reasons why this could have happened! But rather than trying to play “seers”… why don’t we try to love one another, pray for those who’ve lost everything, offer to donate whatever goods or services are needed or pledge to help a family we know, rebuild?
Honestly, I’ve been taken aback by some of the snarky & horrible comments I’ve seen by people on here! If we learn ANYTHING from this, it should be kindness, inclusion, tolerance & empathy!
Why is it that some Jews seem to sound more like fundamentalist Christians every day? I think this whole Republican worship is getting to them.
all jokes aside, hashem sends a reminder so we can sit back and think,
i heard yesterday from an ehrlicher yid, that it may well be a reminder about METZIZAH! we shouldn give in the fight,
Tell that to all those frum and wonderful families that live in Seagate. What an irresponsible comment to say that is totally incorrect. May H-shem replace all those that lost so much in this terrible hurricane. Our hearts are with them.
Statements of this kind should not come from self appointed spokesmen, who are not under the guidance of real leaders. Let the Agudah handle PR, not guys who have their own agenda. I see he is a “Jewish Rabbi”, is there another kind?
Its an assumption and not a bad one, the fact is, if you learn chimmush and rashi you know that “”eloykim she’ll eila soina zimu”” and gay marriage and the likes are exactly what brought the mabul.
Its sad to see jewish minds go so liberal as to support such a thing, a jewish person should not be tolarent of something hashem hates.
as a child when I heard the noah story first, my biggest wonder was, why did no one listen to him when he warned them about the flood?
hating on this rabbi is like hating on the torah, now could he or anyone say why etc sandy happened? I dont know, but to bash this man is silly.
for those wondering about this issue, keep in mind, every country and town has gays, the question is, is it state sponsored or not, as humans we have no business judging anyone, we are all sinners in one way or another, but one cannot argue what is written in the bible and one cannot argue about the story of lot (sodom / gemora) and how it was so common then and obviously ok on a state level.
Nothing like a hurricane that kills more that 75 people and causes so much damage to bring the crazies out of hiding.
Quick, someone call the fire department there’s a bush burning in New York….No wait, it’s just God explaining Himself to Nosson Leiter.
When God wants to appoint a spokesperson He’ll let us know who it is. In the mean time no one should be so arrogant as to think they speak for Him.
This ‘Jewish’ Rabbi, I’m sure, can also explain the horrific, sadistic Shoah perpetrated on 6 million of our people……
If you study the meforshim in Parshas Noach, you can understand the message from Hashem. And the words of this Rabbi may be true.
Obviously this “Rabbi” is looking for attention. I may even add a Chilul Hashem to what he’s doimg
He is on par with the AYatollahs who said Katrina was vengeance for America being anti Muslim. Give a man a soapbox and he will talk shtusim. Why is this even reported??
Rabbi Leiter – I’m sure once the frum Yiddin of Seagate, Far Rockaway, Bayswater and the 5 Towns get their power back and hear of your pronouncement they will be outraged at your foolishness. I don’t think those areas were hotbeds of support for these toiva activities. If Hashem wanted to send a message there are thousands of Rabonim of greater stature that could have interpeted the storm as such.
Thanks Rabbi, I appreciate what you did!
I think that its because we aren’t careful to cover all the blood from the chikens by Kiesei Hadom, so Middoh Kneged Middoh, we got Hurricane Sandy, for the lack of sand.
Here is the problem, i also called G-d and he told me its for a differen reason, he said it was because Satmar is in Court, Bobov is in court, etc.
He also mentioned that it had to do with the fact that Kosher food is so expensive, the scechita is not done proper among other stuff i am not at liberty to discuss, but he never brought up the Gay issue. So i am not sure who this Rabbi spoke with .
While he was speaking to God he should have checked why the tuition is so expensive and when the gas prices will fall, and hopefully then he woke up and wahsed negel vasser
What a retard!
I am amazed whenever somone talks about divine punishment people go beserk. There definitly is a connection between “Toaveh” and calamities based on a lot of seforim. If this is conneted I don’t know but there is definitly more to base it then on FGW (fake global warming) somehow people don’t take offense when they blame it on FGW I wonder why?
I guarantee, no politician who support toeva marriage will make teshuva because of Sandy! So why we need message then have no effect on people anyway ? They think it natural disaster and no Yona Hanovi will tell us otherwise.
Finally someone speaks, yes this is what it says in the Torah that hashem gave us.
In parshas noiach the rishoinem are saying like this.
If you are doing mishkuv zucher that’s a big sin,but that’s not what brings a mabul a mabul comes for legalizing it.
It’s very clear and anyone who believes in toras moshe could look it up.
We should all be ashamed that we are keeping are mouth and not carrying the message of hashem to the world.
As we all know that is no such a thing as a natural disaster in toras Moshe.
Rabbi Leiter, and I use the word “rabbi” loosely. Keep your comments to yourself. We, as Jews have enough on our plates without unthinking comments like yours. Now we have to be attacked with comments because of people like you. Unlike you who, it seems, must have ruach hakodesh from Hashem, I don’t , and i don’t think that He is too happy with you right now. Sherry the Noahide is absolutely right on! People like you create more chilul Hashem than we already have. Or maybe Hashem didn’t mention that the last time you conversed with each other
I actually heard this from several shiurim a while back when california had fires mudslides & disasters
Not against gays but when govt passes laws against the torah saying they legalize something. That torah says wrong -gay MARRIAGE .the area loses its divine protection its govt saying god says marriage is for man & wmen & we think otherwise. We dont believe in god. When the vote was up rabbonim were warning against loses our divine protection if gay marriage goes thru. (Sdom)
And for everybody asking why it happened in 7 states if only NY was meant, if you look in rashi it says “kol mukom sha’atu motzhai znus, anderlimisya (wrath) bu L’olam shehurges tovim V’ruim””
I’m not saying its right for him to say that, but for the sake of argument he has a point and its possible.
The storm can be blamed on nothing else but, an act of G-d. Interestingly, it took place during the month of Cheshvan, same timing as the Biblical era storm. The idea that the storm is retribution for a depraved society, as it was in the time of Noach has crossed the minds of many, if not all of us who have Emunah in Hashem and the Torah. And I am fairly certain that many Rabbonim & Roshei Yeshiva will be speaking about this. But, I wonder how many will have the courage of this man to come out and speak to the world at large – the non-Orthodox, non-Jewish world.
Remember, also that there’s plenty of deparavity causing chilul Hashem in Our World as well.
There was news yesterday about Mayor B, not cancelling the upcoming marathon, and a comparison was made to the same decision (several weeks later), after 9-11. My mind alerted me that after 9-11, we were trying to show terrorists they cannot put us down, perhaps we should wonder if our Dear Mayor forgot that, or is he trying to say the same to G-d – as he does in trying to interfere in Bris Milah?????
Hope you all enjoy my FOOD FOR THOUGHT!!!!
In my view, gay is just a sexual preference that has nothing to do with marriage.
For Rabbi to say why Hashem is doing what he does, is just not the Torah way to say the least because Nobody Knows…. And to go hold big banners claiming to know G ods reason of doing so, is just a big חלול ה . G od has his reasons for doing whatever he does. We should quit claiming to know why the 1above is doing his way stuff and blaming others, lets fix ourselves first.
To start,, if you believe you do know why G od is doing his things, go to your synagogue and tell your people what you feel is right. Do not go out, to the outside world and sell your assumptions!
And all these posters who sound of so negatively are really people who don’t want to admit that there IS someone above pulling the strings.
Lets not forget in the news they always mentioned atlantic city as being the eye of the storm, which is the place of gambling and zimah perversion of the east coast..
So think about it..
As well mayor bloomberg of ny just a few days ago donated 5 million to support gay marriage..
So think about it…
And just recently came with a law against metzitza..
So think about it…
Also on Oct 18 New York (CNN) – A federal appeals court in New York became the nation’s second to strike down the Defense of Marriage Act, finding that the Clinton-era law’s denial of federal benefits to married same-sex couples is unconstitutional. The court upheld a lower court’s decision in a 2-1 majority ruling and determined that America’s gay population “has suffered a history of discrimination” similar to that faced by women in years past.
Thus upholding the law for equal benefits for same sex couples.
And just a few days later Sandy started.
Think about it…
What this Rabbi is saying is not his own it is written in the talmud and Midrash from our great Rabbis..
So maybe if more Rabbis and any Jew would speak out about this.. Maybe we can save our society from destruction!
The Midrash Rabbah is based on the interpretation of the Torah. It speaks about the subject of same-sex marriage during the days of Noah. And they were not Jews so we cant say its only assur for Jews as it is 1 of the 7 noahide laws which The Rambam says at end of sefer melochim that it is our responsibilty to teach nations of the world!
The rabbis wrote in the Midrash Rabbah Genesis that the flood in Noah’s day was primarily triggered when males starting writing marriage deeds with other males, and between men and beasts (bestiality). Based on the account of Midrash Rabbah Genesis, same-sex marriages took place during the days of Noah. There was nothing new under the sun and this is stated by Solomon in Ecclesiastes 1:9. Lot in Sodom and Gomorrah is synonymous with the destruction of the flood generation in Midrash Rabbah Genesis. It states in the Midrash Rabbah Genesis that Lot pleaded all night for mercy for the Sodomites, and that the angels permitted him to plead for them. But once the people said, “… bring them out [the angels] so we may have sex with them,” mercy ran out. The angels told Lot, “for now on you have no right to plead anymore.” Judgment was sent upon Sodom. Flood water was the judgment of God on the people in Noah’s day. Fire and brimstone was the judgment against Sodom and Gomorrah.
Make sure you ask your kind hearted neighbor who is willing to help you with clean-up if he/she is gay. If yes, tell them to go to hell. What an idiot of a “rabbi”.
Goodbye “rabbi”, you just qualified for being at war with the human race.
There was major damage in Queens, not far from the old Shea Stadium. So I call up the KBH and I say, “Hey what gives?” And He says, “It took me a while, I was busy, but this is what you get for trading Tom Seaver”.
Makes more sense than Rabbi Leiter.
This is a very logical reason why this happened. Chazal teach us that these things happen because of Toavah Marriage. You don’t have to be a prophet.
Where can we email a list to the rabbi so when he talks to God next time we can send in a request so we get all the right answers. VIN would you please forward my list.
I am trying to be a good jew and follow your rules but there are some conflicting problems that i dont now an answer to. I would not bother you for this, but since Ranbbi Leiter has a direct line i might as well get the answers to those.
Thanks in advance.
1. Was the Satmar Rabbi who left close to a half-a-million followers right with his movement against Israel or was it a mistake?
2. Is Yoshon real?
3. Is it required to pay 50% more for kosher milk or products that OU makes for much cheaper?
4. When you said we should daven on Rosh Hashanna and Yom Kippur, did you have in mind that our Rabbis should keep us in shul untill 7 pm, or can we eat at 2 pm?
5. Do i reeally need a filter for my Internet?
6. Was Rubashkin sentenced to 27 years also bacuase of the Gays, or some other reason that is confidental?
7. Should i vote for Obama?
8. Who is the real satmar rabbi today?
9. Is shita Rabeinu Taam neccesary or can i stick to the first Zman?
Maybe some of you chachomim can explain this . Many years during the storm Hazel a father and son walked home sukkas from davening. The father’s hat blew off and the son giving koved av run after the hat. A tree fell and instantly took the life of the boy. A true shomer shabbes and erliche mishpocho. I am sure you wil have an explanation
The fact is that this ‘rabbi’ is a soothsayer. This is a godless act and it is condoned in no way by Torah in any sense. Soothsaying is prohibited by Torah law and a soothsayer is to be avoided at all costs. If not harsher penalties.
I wouldn’t dismiss it. And it happened during the shavua of Vayeira, anshei Sdom, Amora, etc., etc. I know people don’t like to hear it, but that doesn’t mean the one who thinks this way shouldn’t say it. On the contrary.
The best way to deal with this story is”THERE SHOULD BE NO COMMENTS”
What scapegoat did rabbis use to explain tragedies and natural disasters BEFORE gay rights movement and gay marriage equality? Galveston Hurricane of 1900 killed 8 thousand people. This Noah mabul gay marriage warning doesn’t fit the situation back then.
The beauty with Orthodox Judaism is you can find any text and any phrase interpret it any way you want to fit your agenda or support your fantasies. If Hashem doesn’t want gay equality then how come he spared every major gay night club in Manhattan while frum homes were flooded?
Let’s not forget that while toeiva was the aveira before the mabul, but “lo nechtam gezar dinom elo al hagezel” and that my friends is something that really needs a change of course.
Everyone get on with life; there are crazies in all sects, whether Christians, (and with out saying:) Muslims…
No one asked this so-called “Rabbi” for any somewhat opinion he just posted on his blog. He is a NOBODY!
Oh, and BTW, we all know what our sages say about the “Mobil” the final straw…was “Thievery” – how about a lesson on that?
Shame on all of you. I agree with this rabbi. He’s very brave. Our mayor also brazenly attacked Bris Milah.
this is a chilul hashem…intelligent people look at this and say if this is torah educated jews….then its a laughing stock..what would be wise is to say look anal gay relationship is prohibited in the bible…thats all its the truth people would take it on face value….when you play mr arrogant that you know hashems plan ect…it looks silly…to be honest every time i hear a certain leading rav say thing like that…that the holocaust or this tsunami or that disaster is because of this or that, i tend to say under my breath…meshugeneh or fraduster….a leading rav looks at the tov always just like avraham avinu or moshe rebanu…if someone always looks at the ra or negativity its becuase they are ra they are a fraud…
Perhaps I could ask this gifted rabbi about a few sugyas in Baba Basra…
Why is nobody figuring out that this whole churban came so close to the voting against METZITZA BEPEH situation.
NY was the hardest hit with such a big city like MANHATTAN to be crippled for so many days and how many economic losses involved. It is such a domino effect.
(reply to 27)You could argue with me and with this rabbi.but you can’t argue with toras moshe,MOSHE EMES VTOROSE EMES.
To all of the commenters who are concerned how we get messaging for hashem,yes we have the Torah hashem gave us a Torah over there you see why a mabul comes,it is very clear,it seems like there is some people who would like a Torah that is legalizing gay marriage and other sexual craziness,sadly enough the Torah is not liberal about this and it’s very clear that a mabul is coming for this.
Yes Atlantic city has a big reason to be hit by a storm according to Torah.
Im so happy this rebbi knows the reason for the storm. Im curious who told him. why doesnt he give us reasons for the gas shortage?
I was thinking the exact same thing, but you have to ask about NJ, Florida, and other “non-Gay” states that were hit hard. Also, Toronto, Ontario legalizes gay marriages and wasn’t NEARLY hit as hard as NYC.