Jerusalem – IDF Concedes To Haredi Demands: Announces Only Men Will Examine Yeshiva Students

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    FILE photo IDFJerusalem – In response to calls this week by leading ultra-Orthodox rabbis for yeshiva students not to report to the IDF draft office upon receiving their preliminary call-up papers, IDF officials have said that all interviews and medical examinations of ultra-Orthodox men will be conducted exclusively by men going forward.

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    The tentative compromise was reached after yeshiva students said they were forced to endure “humiliating physical checkups” when they reported to the draft office, according to an article in Yediot Ahronot (http://bit.ly/QEYlxb). One student said, “The army has lost its mind. They don’t understand what such a yeshiva student goes through. When he takes the bus for one hour, he makes sure that it’s a kosher bus, and here they just throw him into a secular environment with girls for a whole day of checkups?! People came back from there in complete shock. It’s no wonder the rabbis responded the way they did.”

    Knesset Members Yakov Litzman and Moshe Gafni briefed Rabbi Aharon Leib Shteinman and Rabbi Shmuel Auerbach on the proposed agreement with Defense Ministry representatives, which involves adjusting the draft process to meet yeshiva students’ religious needs.

    In a statement, the army said, “The proposed adjustments include conducting personal interviews by men only and editing the questions in order to match the haredi society’s lifestyle. As for the issue of the physical checkup, it should be noted that every military service candidate is given the right to choose the gender of the examining doctor.”

    The rabbis have threatened to stage mass protests against the army until the agreement is finalized.


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    BigMasmid
    BigMasmid
    11 years ago

    It won’t help them because the Badatz Adah-Jerusalem gave a statement this evening that even if it’s only male to male no one should turn up to the army

    11 years ago

    No yeshiva student should sign up unless they draft the arabs. The arabs attack Jews and get funding from the Israeli government and don’t have to do any volunteer work. This is discrimination against chareidi Jews. No Frum Jew should join the secular police or army. You don’t want to end up protecting the monthly women of the wall abomination at the kosel each rosh choidesh or the yearly toeva parade in yerushalayim. Avoid signing up.

    WADE1
    WADE1
    11 years ago

    there is another war being fought: the torah war against the yetzer harah. who will win?

    11 years ago

    But YET, those same charedim have no problem sending their wives for full physical exams by male doctors.

    At any rate, anyone should be able to pick whichever gender doctor s/he feels comfortable with.

    enlightened-yid
    enlightened-yid
    11 years ago

    These people are so extreme that normal society doesn’t know how to cope with these cavemen. Women are just dirty objects to them that they can’t even function like civilized humans around them. God forbid a female doctor examines you or a woman proctors an assessment exam. The insecurity that a woman can have greater education and authority over these holy men drives them insane.

    YoineKohen
    YoineKohen
    11 years ago

    miri613

    Wrong! the same halacha applies to both men and women no matter who is the checker. Both are permitted, only ‘negiah shel chiba’ [endearing touch] is prohibited. It is why going for a check up or dental check up is permitted no matter what the gender of the person sitting in the chair or doing the checking.

    This is also the basis why Harav Moshe Feinstein zt”l permitted opposite genders sitting next to each other on public transportation. But RMF prohibited shaking hands as he considered it endearing

    The reason some men are machmir and refuse to be touched even for non-endearing purposes, that is because they want to avoid un-pure thoughts while being examined or treated and that is a separate issue that is left for each individual to look into his own heart. [i.e. an individual who gets tempted from a sack of potatoes should not hug a sack of potatoes]

    An examination for health reasons is clearly permitted, the response in Israel is because it is simply impossible for some to avoid un-pure thoughts when private parts are examined, so it is forbidden for that reason.

    BigMasmid
    BigMasmid
    11 years ago

    We’ve Lost Our Kedusha

    Am Yisrael, we’re a stiff-necked people. A people that with our stubbornness have
    managed Be’ezras Hashem to get through most of our time in our Golus, with our
    stubbornness to keep our faith, our closeness to Hashem, our sacred Torah. We
    have fought with determination to keep ourselves holy, at least up to this
    generation. But since we have entered the last stage before the Geula, things have
    drastically changed. The main thing that we have lost is our Kedusha, and with it
    our true belief and trust in HaKodosh Boruch Hu, Hashem Yishmor.
    see the rest of this speach: http://www.dani18.com/uploads/P2011_12_06E_We_HAVE_Lost_Our_Kedusha.pdf