New York – Halachic Analysis: Stickering Cars – Is It Permitted?

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    FILE photo illustrationNew York – What should a shul do when do when a car blocks the flow of traffic in the shul parking lot? A lot of shul leaders, of late, have taken to “stickering the car.” These “stickers” are extraordinarily difficult to remove, but the rationale behind it is that the priver would prefer a sticker to being towed.

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    What is the halacha here?

    THE DRIVER IS A THIEF

    Before we get to the issue of the actual “stickering”, it must be noted that parking illegally is technically considered trespassing, which is a form of actual theft.

    How do we define trespassing? From the perspective of American law, trespassing is the act of illegally going onto somebody else’s property without permission, which could just be a civil law tort (allowing the owner to sue for damages), or it could be a criminal matter.

    What exactly is the halachic violation? The violation is actually that of stealing. The Talmud (Bava Basra 88a) records a debate between Rabbi Yehudah and the Sages as to whether borrowing an item without permission renders a person a gazlan, a thief, or whether he simply has the status of a borrower.

    Rabbi Yehudah maintains that he does not have the halachic status of a thief, while the Sages maintain that he does. The Rif and the Rambam both rule in accordance with the Sages-that he is considered a thief. Indeed, this is also the ruling of the Shulchan Aruch in four different places (C.M. 292:1, 308:7, 359:5, 363:5).

    Is the “considered a thief” designation applicable in all cases? Generally speaking, borrowing an item has a value associated with it. In the case of trespassing, there may be no particular value per se in setting foot on the person’s property, or in parking improperly. While this may be the case, the Chazon Ish (B.K. 20:5) writes that the prohibition of sho’el shelo mida’as (one who borrows without permission) applies even when the item is not something that generally has a market value, and even if the value is less than that of a perutah.

    How do we know that borrowing without permission also applies to being on someone’s land, or parking illegally? Maybe, it can be argued that in order to “borrow,” you have to physically take an object; here, you are just taking up space on someone’s land.

    THE PROOF

    The Rashbam in Bava Basra 57b discusses a case of a piece of property owned by two partners. The Rashbam writes that we are lenient and assume that one partner allows the other to place his animals on the land even without explicitly giving permission. In such a case, he would not be considered a sho’el shelo mida’as since they, in general, are partners, and would let the other do what he wants with their property. According to the Rashbam, therefore, when not dealing with two partners of a property, trespassing would be subsumed under the concept of sho’el shelo mida’as. Therefore, the one who parks in such a manner is guilty of theft.

    So clearly, no one is arguing then that the person has a right to park in that manner. The question is, may we sticker him?

    BACK TO STICKERING

    The temptation to sticker an offending automobile is quite great, indeed, almost overwhelming. And, of late, some Shuls have posted signs to that effect – that if anyone is either illegally parked or is blocking or partially blocking access – they will be stickered.

    Nonetheless, it seems that it is clearly forbidden.

    [The reader should note, by the way, that neither this author, nor any of his family members were ever stickered. This article is strictly an exercise in halachic discovery.]

    The Shulchan Aruch (CM 378:1) writes: It is forbidden to damage the property of his friend, and if he does so he must pay full damages. The Sma points out that the Shulchan Aruch mentions both a prohibition as well as a financial obligation to pay in order to highlight that both of these issues are pertinent – it is both a halachic prohibition as well as a financial issue.

    The Gemorah (Bava Kamma 48a) discusses a case where a person brought his bull into the private property of another and the owner of that property damaged the bull – the owner is exempt from paying damages. Rav Pappa, however, qualifies it and says that it is only true when the owner damaged the bull without knowing about him. But if he damaged the bull knowing about it the owner of the bull may say, “Granted you have the right to throw me out, but you do not have the right to damage me.”

    The statement of Rav Pappa is wholly applicable in our case. The placing of a sticker on the windshield or window is damaging because the glue must be carefully removed and the time that it takes to remove it – is not insignificant. Let us keep in mind that the prohibition to damage another is equal, whether it is smashing his windows and slashing his tires or merely placing a difficult to remove sticker on his window.

    SIX POSSIBLE COUNTER ARGUMENTS

    One might point to the Shulchan Aruch (CM 412:2) where it states, “If someone had filled and placed pitchers across the public thoroughfare in a manner that others cannot pass, even if another broke them with his hands that person is exempt from payment.” The problem is that in the Shulchan Aruch’s case, the breaking of the pitchers serves to allow access. Here, however, the stickering of the car does not help anyone get through. So it is tantamount to just plain damaging or vandalizing.

    One might also make the argument based upon the Gemorah in Bava Kamma (28a) that a messenger of a Beis Din is even permitted to damage if there is no other way to save an item (See Sma 8:25). But again, the stickering does not help the situation now and, secondly, the shul officers are not a Beis Din.

    What about the shul acting in a capacity to enforce halacha? There is a debate between the Nesivus and the Ktzos HaChoshen (CM Chapter 3) in regard to whether individuals can take upon themselves to stop someone from doing something wrong. The Nesivus is of the opinion that individuals do have this “Citizen’s Arrest” type of power. The Ktzos HaChoshen, however, writes that this power is unique to Beis Din, and the halacha is in accordance with the Ktzos.

    A fourth argument can be made that if a warning sign is placed on the parking lot, then when one parks there he is tacitly agreeing to allow himself to be damaged. The assumption is that he certainly does not wish to be considered a thief, therefore, he is an agreement that he may be stickered. The counter to this argument is that he may respond, “I never agreed to submit to this damage. I had thought that what I was doing was not so nice, but not theft.” If so, we do not have any indication that the driver was amenable to be stickered and it would still constitute damaging him.

    Perhaps there is another angle. There is a halachic tool called an Anan Sahadi which literally means “the entire world testifies.” The Anan Sahadi is not a tool of little consequence. In theory, one can argue that there may be a legal form of acquiescence here.

    How so? One could perhaps make an argument that there is an Anan Sahadi that a person would rather be stickered than be towed, and, therefore, there should not be a prohibition in stickering their car. The counter to this is that, when dealing with a shul, the person parking is expecting that the shul administration will perhaps be upset, but they will not tow him. The Anan Sahadi, therefore, does not really exist.

    There is one last attempt. If we look at the driver as not just someone who is damaging now, but someone who does so continuously, then perhaps we can utilize the principle of Rav Nachman (Bava Kamma 27b) entitled, “Avid Inesh Dina d’nafshai” that a person is allowed to take action outside of court in order to prevent himself from sustaining damage. However, it is clear that the parameters of “Avid Inesh Dina d’nafshai” that a person is allowed to take action outside of court is only in terms of taking back his own item but not in causing someone damage. The Sfas Emes (Brachos 5b) states this specifically.

    MORE THAN HALACHA

    Stickering a car may also be illegal in New York State.

    When a person destroys or damages property illegally it is not called Vandalism – in New York State it is called “Criminal Mischief.” There are four levels of Criminal Mischief in New York State. They range from the lowest level, Criminal Mischief in the 4th degree, which is a misdemeanor to Criminal Mischief in the 1st Degree, a felony.

    The lowest level covers any destruction of property for vandalism with a value up to two hundred and fifty dollars. It is a separate criminal charge if someone is caught with possession of graffiti tool. The question whether the sticker is considered a graffiti tool or not would be what the judge would decide. Regardless, this is a misdemeanor and is punishable by up to one year in jail with the possibility of probation, community service and fines.

    The next level of criminal mischief is Criminal Mischief in the 3rd degree, a felony. The violator faces a minimum of a year and a day in prison. This covers destruction of property of over two hundred and fifty dollars and up to fifteen hundred dollars.

    Criminal Mischief in the second degree is damage to property over $1500.00 and is a Class D felony.

    The final level of Criminal mischief is Criminal mischief in the 1st degree which is a Class B felony. This occurs when property is destroyed by use of explosive. Hopefully, shul officers are not so angered that they would resort to this level of a deterence.

    LAST ISSUE

    There is one final issue. Depending upon the intention of the stickerer, he could very well be violating a Torah prohibition of seeking revenge (See Rambam Hilchos Deyos 7:7). What would be the halacha if he has two intentions – one of revenge and the other of trying to prevent further parking abuse? The Mishna Brurah 38:24 cites a Magen Avrohom about a person’s double intention when performing a Mitzvah, and states that it generally follows one’s main intent.

    The reader should know, however, that there aresome Rabbis who disagree with the position presented here and have adopted one of the six rationales expressed above. Each shul should follow the ruling of their Rav in this matter, however, this author consulted with two major Poskim who agreed with the positions set forth above. One of them was unsure, however, about the counter to explanation #4 above.

    So what should and could be done? A note should be left on the car explaining that it is wrong and that the license plate was noted, and next time a tow truck may be called. If the car is blocking access, towing would be permitted according to the Shulchan Aruch. (CM412:1). According to what was discussed above, however, stickering would not be permitted.

    The author can be reached at [email protected]


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    anon1m0us
    anon1m0us
    10 years ago

    While stickering might be an issue, the halacha is if someone is blocking my driveway, I may not sticker all call a tow truck since I am causing a financial damage. However, I am permitted to back my car into the other car, which may cause damage, and push it out of the way.

    Brooklynhocker
    Brooklynhocker
    10 years ago

    Yair, why are you clerring aran? Define illegally parked. Define who’s property the parking lot belongs to. Then define what the difference is between stickering and admonishing this same person for their actions.
    “Illegally parking” – parking in a way that would hinder other traffic flow or create a situation where if there is an emergency entree or exit would be impossible or very difficult. “The shuls parking lot” – the same way a shul has the right to decide what nussuch they daven, or who’s kashrus they except for a kiddush- they have the right to tell you where you can or can’t park. And this stickerer is an agent of the shul.
    “Stickering” – affixing an adhesive paper label to the window which is a nuisance to remove. There is no permanent damage to the car if removed carefully- so your first 5 definitions of hezick don’t apply.
    Now if a person were unable to exit the parking lot causing another person a hephsid mamon or sakanos nifashos would he be considered a rodef?
    Bottom line – halacha or not, the driver is accepting that he may be uninentionally damaged by parking in a way that has been deemed “not acceptable” , and a sticker would remind him of that fact, therefore the “stickerer” is in fact doing him a toyva and wouldn’t be chaviv for anything other then wasting money on a sticker.

    10 years ago

    What about the mindless and careless people that throw their car doors open into your car door causing dings which cost hundreds of dollars to repair?

    Rabbi Yair Hoffman
    Admin
    10 years ago

    I think #1 is absolutely right, and appreciate very much VIN posting this article.

    heilegeyid613
    heilegeyid613
    10 years ago

    if hes parked illegily its like he stole something from you
    the gemara in bava kama says if someone has your item you can forcibly take it back and according to the other man damor who holds u cant he holds if there is peseidah a loss then you can
    and time is money and if he blocking u u can forsure push his car out and the gemara says u can break his teeth its a machlokes weather in beis duin or literally so i think its pashut u can sticker his car

    LouKay
    LouKay
    10 years ago

    1) ” These “stickers” are extraordinarily difficult to remove, ” even if this is true how is this a damage? a half decent scraper and maybe a little DW40 will take the sticker off the glass and leave no marks or scratches. It may be inconvenient but it most certainly is not damage!
    2) “..One might also make the argument based upon the Gemorah in Bava Kamma (28a) that a messenger of a Beis Din is even permitted to damage if there is no other way to save an item (See Sma 8:25). But again, the stickering does not help the situation now and, secondly, the shul officers are not a Bais Din….”

    So what if the Shul forms a Bais Din (I am assuming that there is no prohibition for a shul to form a B”D) and then makes the person in charge of sticking it’s shleiach? As to the part of the argument that ” …it does not help the situation now..” , it may stop others from doing the same thing.

    LeCentrist
    LeCentrist
    10 years ago

    Apropos of nearly nothing, I believe that the Shul officers should direct their frustrations toward those disturbing the peace during davening. From the Women’s section in my Shul, I usually see one or two repeat offenders who walk around the Men’s section, starting conversations with other Men. I understand the struggle, but I don’t understand why anyone passively allows this to continue.
    Would I be better off focusing on my own tefillos? Sure. Would we all be better off if I simply ask the Abishter to help them in their struggle? Yeah.
    But the topic at hand is what it is, and it shouldn’t be.

    yaakov doe
    Member
    yaakov doe
    10 years ago

    Use lighter fluid and the sticker comes right off. Stickers across the mouths of shul talkers should be considered.

    10 years ago

    Why is towing permitted?
    Towing is an act of stealing AS WELL as financial damage.

    I think the whole thing is narishkeit: there’s definitely an anan sahadi that people accept this as a form of punishment when they park in such a way.
    The inconsiderate parker would be the first to cheer if someone else got stickered for blocking him, and that creates an Anan sahadi, a minhag hamakom, and probably a hilchos situmta that stickering is permitted.

    LebidikYankel
    LebidikYankel
    10 years ago

    A lot of talmidei chachamim out tonight. Anyone here ever learnt bava kama?

    savtat
    savtat
    10 years ago

    I live near a shtiebel and every once in a while someone blocks my driveway in his rush to minyan. Now don’t get me wrong, I think it’s admirable to scramble to be on time, but then I’m stuck in my driveway until that minyan is over. I think that the daveners are in such a hurry, they literally don’t realize they have block me in. Sometimes, I leave them a note and I get an apology!

    awacs
    awacs
    10 years ago

    I think the article assumes as a premise that someone is parking on Shul property. This is rarely the case: usually, they park in front of a neighbor’s driveway, which isn’t theft (the neighbor doesn’t own the street) and certainly not theft from the Shul.

    How does this affect his analysis?

    Rabbi Yair Hoffman
    Admin
    10 years ago

    I think #14 is assuming a Brooklyn venue, while the author is Far Rockaway/Five Towns..

    Yossi_Schochet
    Yossi_Schochet
    10 years ago

    May the offending car be blocked in a manner that it cannot leave? On some occasions unauthorized people park in my private driveway. May I intentionally park so that they are stuck in my driveway? PLEASE RESPOND!

    zayin
    zayin
    10 years ago

    FYI, BMG in Lakewood puts stickers on cars that park illegally

    Rabbi Yair Hoffman
    Admin
    10 years ago

    to number 16. It doesn’t allow you to get through and it too is a grama or garmi hezek. Forbidden.

    ChachoMoe
    ChachoMoe
    10 years ago

    Thanks Rabbi Yair for another fascinating analysis!

    The comparison to Baba Kama 48 and categorizing him as a Shoel Shlo MeDaa’t needs to be analyzed, as in our case, I would rather compare it to ‘ Davar HaOmed Lischar’ and thus more of a direct Hezek, as by him blocking the owners driveway he is not permitting the owner to either enter or exit, and is stealing the owners very time and spot. in the case of Baba Kama all he is it at fault is for merely tresspasing…