Brooklyn, NY – Avi Fishoff On Anti-Chasidic Film And Footsteps: Unconditional Love Can Bring Lost Jews Back

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    Avi Fishoff a well-known name in dealing with 'Kids in Pain' addresses in nearly one hour video the ’Footstep Community’ and a message to the ‘Frum community’ after watching the Netflix documentary ‘One of us’Brooklyn, NY – In a grippingly raw and emotional video, Avi Fishoff, a well known and respected name in the world of at risk behavior, speaks passionately about the Footsteps organization, the Netflix documentary One of Us and his thoughts on the most effective way to ignite the spark of yiddishkeit in those who have abandoned their religious roots.

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    While much of the focus on One of Us has been on the stories of three former members of the Chasidic community who were rejected by their families after adopting secular lifestyles, Fishoff noted that there is a much deeper theme running through the documentary:  the heartbreaking torment of child rape victims.

    Expressing surprise that anyone would make a movie about child trauma victims, Fishoff noted that there seemed to be a deliberate intent to show that the characters’ struggles were caused by their desire to leave the Chasidic community, while the movie clearly portrays a longing for the lives left behind and glosses over the greater issue of sexual abuse.  It was the trauma they suffered as children, and not theological differences, that caused each of the three to sever their ties with their families and the Chasidic community, observed Fishoff.

    The three subjects of the movie seem to have only one criticism of their former community, according to Fishoff: the rejection facing those who choose to leave.  He described the pain that Luzer, Etty and Ari, the three subjects of One of Us, experienced as “heart wrenching” and “a travesty” but noted that it was unrelated to Judaism.

    Quoting rabbinic giants including the Baal Shem Tov, the Chazon Ish, the Satmar Rebbe and the Gerrer Rebbe Fishoff said that the only way to deal with those who are in pain is to shower them with unconditional love.  Those who have suffered trauma become  dysfunctional, explained Fishoff, making it impossible for them to carry on their normal lives. Sleep becomes elusive. Drugs become a way to numb the pain.  And religious practice becomes too difficult to bear for those who have been abused.

    Fishoff noted that in his own experiences working with at risk young adults he has found that acceptance and love are key to restoring emotional health, with most ultimately choosing to become religiously observant on their own as they heal.  Footsteps does provide victims of abuse with emotional support, but Fishoff said that their blatant efforts to separate Orthodox Jews from their religious practices without addressing the trauma of having been abused is a clear indicator of their blatant anti-religious agenda, one that does a disservice to those in pain and are poorly equipped to be making life-altering decisions.

    But the blame for Footsteps’ all too successful efforts to woo Chasidic and Orthodox Jews away from their religious lives must be shared by the Jewish community, who failed to step up to the plate when it came to dealing with the taboo topic of sexual abuse.

    “There never should have been an organization that was created by people off the derech to help off the derech,” said Fishoff. “It should have been us. We failed.  We created Footsteps and now we don’t like their attitude. They were raped, molested, abused  people  left for dead; they opened up an organization to help other people in that same matzav  and we don’t like their attitude?  Where were we? Where were we? We didn’t open up the hospital. So the inmates had to open up the psych ward.  So the patients had to run their own hospital. And you don’t like their attitude?”

    Fishoff said that he was deeply touched by the stories told in One of Us, lamenting the rejection they faced and assuring them that they would always be welcome in Jewish community.

    “Luzer, Etty, Ari and all the Luzers and Ettys and Aris that are out there, you are one of us,” said Fishoff. “You are our responsibility, the responsibility of klal yisroel. You never should have been abused. You never should have been traumatized  You never should have been rejected. It’s all wrong.”

    Fishoff also did not mince words when it came to people who cover up sexual abuse in the Jewish community.

    “Blood is on your hands, every single one of you,” warned Fishoff.

    Today’s world is vastly different from that of even ten years ago, observed Fishoff, warning that abuse happens even in the best of families.  And while it may be difficult for parents to cope with at risk children, rejection will only make the situation worse.

    “Just like there were Jews in Auschwitz, there are Jews in our day that their life, [in] their head they want to die,” said Fishoff. “They’re in Auschwitz in their head … you want to make it better for them  emotionally physically, spiritually? Be mikarev them with your love.”

    Fishoff, the author of several books and seforim, has been working with what he refers to as “Kids in Pain” or “KiPs” for the past 20 years and has more than 80 YouTube videos that address dealing with the at risk population.

    The founder of Twisted Parenting and director of the Home Sweet Home boys’ shelter, Fishoff’s approach of responding to children who leave yiddishkeit with unconditional love has been gaining in popularity in recent years.

    Considered one of the most sought after expert, Fishoff has coached Thousands of parents throughout the years about his methods with tremendous success.

    Nearly one hour powerful speech by Avi Fishoff, Watch below:


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    mayereke
    mayereke
    6 years ago

    a few points; lets get the facts straight
    1. the tzaar for every yid is that is ” shonoh upiresh” is deep and unbearable to the family, kehillah, kal vachomer to hashem
    2. way before footsteps there were numerous tzadikim shoering “unconditional love” to mention a few the trenks, mitnick, glanz, blobstien, davis,..marsh……ask any gvir
    3. galus and tayvah are motziin es haodom min haolem…. aveiros distance a person from hashem ” im kebinom im kaavodim its either or ” when you are feeling distant from g-d , remember its NOT god that moved
    4. ask any gvir how many millions was invested in all kinds of help …
    5. finally avi does great work , but as he himself says he only takes 5% of cases because they fall into a specific nitch so in short no one has the answers yet everyone continues to try

    yonasonw
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    yonasonw
    6 years ago

    “Fishoff alleges “a deliberate intent to show that the characters’ struggles were caused by their desire to leave the Chasidic community…” I have seen the movie…twice. That is so obviously untrue that I question his veracity. He has it totally backwards…their “struggles” were why they left the Chasidic community.

    E.g., the mother who lost her children, “Ette,” would have never left the community if she hadn’t been hounded and driven out…for the sin of mosser…after 12 years of domestic abuse she went to the police, got an order of protection and her husband was taken out of the house. And the community turned on her.

    “Ari’s” sex abuse was revealed late in the movie, when he disclosed that he wanted to reveal something that up to that point he had only told his therapist. That abuse, and the community’s utter failure to address it or believe him, was a big part of Ari’s “struggle” – And Fishoff implies that his “struggle” came about because he wanted to leave to leave the community! Nonsense.

    Ari’s, Luzer’s and Ette’s trauma may have had “nothing to do with Judaism;” but it has everything to do with the Hasidic community’s violent warping of Judaism.

    Frish
    Frish
    6 years ago

    לא אלמן ישראל!!!! כי לא יטוש ה’ עמו!!!
    Avi Fishoff is G-D sent. May hadhem give him koach to continue his עבודת הקודש. Yes its a strughle but בע”ה he will prevail and end this Holocaust . End the suicides, the rejections,
    He’s leading a revolution that few if any hv the stamina to pursue, and as every revolution the revolutonist has to ve rrady to sacrifice themselves for the cause. AVI is that revolutonist. He is litterly giving his life to save these broken & lost neshmois & bring peace & serenity into these homes.
    חזק ואמץ

    Alt_modish
    Alt_modish
    6 years ago

    Mr. Fishoff i would suggest to keep your advise to yourself. If you don’t know the details of a story don’t give your opinion
    Particular the story of Etty, do you really think that a secular judge in NY took away custody from a mother of 7 when the mother is a victim of abus ? NON SENCE!!
    Do some research why the judge took away the kids, nothing to do with yidishkeit.
    The heimishe comunity are the victims of does individuals that cry victim. I’m not saying that there are no abuse, but most of the time it’s just an excuse for their evil behavior.

    imhumble
    imhumble
    6 years ago

    Ettys story is ONE BIG LIE. She was never abused. her husband is a tzaddik. she is mentally unstable and a pathological liar. she was treated with unconditional love by her family and friends. she was never rejected. The judge awarded custody to the husband because he is the stable, kind, non-judgmental spouse. no, i am not related. just a neighbor who witnessed this travesty.

    yonasonw
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    yonasonw
    6 years ago

    Another falsehood:

    Fishoff writes:

    “But the blame for Footsteps’ all too successful efforts to woo Chasidic and Orthodox Jews away from their religious lives must be shared by the Jewish community, who failed to step up to the plate when it came to dealing with the taboo topic of sexual abuse.”

    First of all, it needs to be said that the film is NOT about sex abuse…that the issue is Fishoff’s project is admirable…but that is not the subject of the movie…it is about what the community puts people through when they opt out.

    More importantly, Footsteps does nothing to actively “woo” people. It’s existence attracts people already struggling to opt out…like AA, it is a support group of people going through a common struggle…and like AA, that it attracts a following proves the existence of that common struggle.

    6 years ago

    So sad! But the unconditional love that i witnessd in a super delicious home only turned the next kid to the first OTD. Its ext contraversial being that the in house kids resent this behavior from their older siblings. I witnessed too much pain and all askonim said to kp the teenager home. She was dressd immodesty to put it mildly and riding the elevator yom kipur & hailing the taxi. Its not a cut out deal. So far none of them came back and the other kids need our prayers.

    6 years ago

    Avi is doing Hashems work CHAZAK

    6 years ago

    Reb Avi Fishoff is a tzadik who is concerned and focused on helping save jewish lives. Sandhedrin 37A teaches in the beginning Hashem created Adam (one man) to teach us that saving one life is compared to saving the entire world. Avi has done this many times over and and continues to do it every day. Hashem should give him the strength to continue.

    imhumble
    imhumble
    6 years ago

    avi fishoff is a tzaddik gomer. he selflessly gives of his time and resources to help bring yiddishe nesahmas back. he is one in a million. Etty’s husband called Avi and begged for him to get involved. and Avi in his inimitable generous way tried his best to help and guide. Etty’s husband reached out to anyone who could help, family, friends, professionals, askanim…and . he gave Etty time and space and acceptance. he was gentle. to confirm, in Etty’s case she was not treated badly and the only abuse was in her mind.Since she was young, she made up stories as an attention getting tactic. just one example, cameras in her hallway show her walking into her house perfectly fine, then calling 911, emerging bloodied and blaming her husband, who was not in the house, he had an “order of protection” on trumped up, fake charges…..she made up all kinds of stories about her husband and until they were investigated, he had only supervised visitation. Now, he has full custody and has been cleared of all charges. Etty was financed by footsteps for all her legal fees and in a desperate attempt at attention and publicity , she agreed to be in the film. There is more to this story……

    6 years ago

    Just letting you know Etty’s story is one big lie. 100%. Etty was in a mental institution, she Is unwell. She barely mentioned that. Just so you know, the support that she got from family and friends and the community was unreal. She hallucinates and is a big manipulator. Once she joined footsteps, they helped her make up stories of Abuse so she can get rid of her husband. He was and is a very special person and never abused her. She lost in court because she hasn’t shown up the court in months, go ask those that are involved in the case. I am. She has no interest in her kids. She abandoned her 4 younger ones. The 3 older she wanted for her pride. Her kids spelled dysfunction when they lived with her and are now doing so much better. Unfortunately she’s totally crazy, it’s sad to see what became of her. But know that all the stories are made up. I know for a fact.

    6 years ago

    I saw the movie and was moved by all three stories especially Etty’s because I’m mother and would do everything to keep my children. But then I stepped back and realized that i was watching a story written by people with a powerful agenda against religious people. They made another film mocking a Christian camp. Let them make make a film about the hookup culture that is destroying our society and leading to a rise in veneral diseases. Chasdei Hashem I was put into a frum home and married young. I’ve worked in the secular world and it’s one scary place. If not for the BY values I don’t know where I’d be today! It may be fun now to the Footsteps female crowd but why pay for the milk….Instead of beating down these kids to stay frum show them the beauty and privilege we have to be mekadesh Shem shamayim everyday. Oh, and I dare the filmmakers to make a documentary about Chaverim, Hatzolah, tomchei shabbos, Gemachs, and even the gypsies who come collecting in our frum neighborhoods!!!!

    ProudestDad101
    ProudestDad101
    6 years ago

    Dear Community,
    Please watch the full version of the video.
    I believe every point Rabbi Avi Fishoff is addressing has been carefully reviewed many times.
    Reb Avi is a G-D sent for parents who truly Love their children and are willing to change their own environment and behavior towards having a calm and happy home.
    Once you are in this Matzav of have a child that does not fit our mold, if we are true to ourselves and really want to do Rutzin Hashem be derech Habal shem .

    THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY
    LOVE YOUR CHILD BECAUSE HE/SHE IS YOUR CHILD.
    This is how Hashem treats us.

    Hashem should help we should all be Zoche to see healthy erliche doros with the coming of Moshiach

    6 years ago

    Avi, I agree with everything you said but the Arrogance and Elitism of frum people (ie some private citizens, some principals, and some rabbis) in the name of preservation of yiddishkeit is the true culprit. Unfortunately, I’ve seen it firsthand. We need to humble ourselves and learn from the Ari’s, Etty’s, and Luzer’s. Are we creating ehrliche yidden, mindless soldiers, or Arrogant Masmidim?

    6 years ago

    Avi Fishoff’s video is almost as long as the documentary but beats the film by far in sincerity and genuineness. Get a grip, people. One Of Us is great filmmaking. Yes it’s based on real life characters but there’s much embellishment, exaggeration, scenes that are staged, and some downright falsehoods. That aside, the word “abuse” and “rape” is overused and even misused in many instances. I once needed to set a dear chassidish friend of mine straight when she said her little sister was raped. Turned out there was a stranger who’d entered the vestibule of this family’s apt building with nefarious intent, but before he could do anything besides touch the little girl’s arm, a neighbor scared him away. I realized that my friend naively thought this constituted rape. She was grateful when I explained why and how she was doing a great disservice to her own kin by spreading a tall tale, albeit inadvertently. Etty, too, uses the “abuse” card liberally, while her fawning Footsteps friends feed into her frenzied fantasies and the film makers lap it up. Pity on us all.