LONDON (JTA) – A transgender woman in England has given up her legal fight to see her five haredi Orthodox children.
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The woman has not seen the children, whom she fathered when she was living as a man, since leaving a haredi, or ultra-Orthodox, community in Manchester in 2015.
At a hearing in London on Monday, she withdrew her application for an order allowing her to have contact with the children, The Guardian reported.
The family has remained unidentified in the British media.
The children’s mother has said in court that if the children had direct contact with the transgender woman, the parent body of their schools would not allow other children to play with them. The testimony of several community rabbis backed her assertion.
The children also could be denied places at good yeshivas and schools, be prevented from marrying into some families and the entire family could be shunned by the community, the court has been told.
In January 2017, a British high court judge in the family division ruled that the transgender woman could not see her children, then aged 3 to 13, citing “the upholding of the rights of the children to have the least harmful outcome in a situation not of their making.” She was allowed to indirectly contact the children with letters four times a year on Jewish festivals and their birthdays.
An appeals court later ordered the family division court to reconsider its decision. The father’s application was withdrawn before a new decision could be announced.
Hello VIN! You are a frum website! Please don’t surrender to liberal Sodom terminology! Here, I’ll edit the article for you: A “transgender” man in England has given up his legal fight to see his five haredi Orthodox children.
The man has not seen the children, whom he fathered prior to leaving a haredi, or ultra-Orthodox, community in Manchester in 2015…
I won’t repeat the entire article here but it is your obligation as a frum site to edit the content of your articles to reflect Jewish values.
Well done on a topic that has emotional components to it
Well done on a topic that has emotional components to it as you are aware there are always people that well complain
Dear VIN: SHAME ON YOU!
I feel sorry for the kids. They won’t know which column to read for yizkor.
Has anyone considered the Agmas Nefesh this person and his family live through. Everyone is so high and holy….Hashem Yishmor not only to this family, but to everyone who “thinks” they can be judgmental.
How will the children address this parent if they were to meet?
Stop picking on VIN; the Editor of this blog has his/her hands full, in sorting through numerous crank comments, which I’m sure never make it to the “press room”. They also have to search through many articles of interest to our community, as well as secular articles. As the saying goes, it is impossible to please everybody.
I know one once frum rabbi who became a woman. His (its) kids are like really suffering.
He (it) cares only about himself (itself) and so the kids suffer.
“The children’s mother has said in court that if the children had direct contact with the transgender woman, the parent body of their schools would not allow other children to play with them. The testimony of several community rabbis backed her assertion”.
A community that would so cruelly punish a totally innocent child by preventing other children from playing with them, and that would limit their life-chances by preventing access to schools, as well as to deny them access to a parent who loves them and whom they love, because their parent in a bid to reduce what was almost certainly the immense suffering of gender dysphoria underwent transitioning, has absolutely no right to think of itself as moral, and certainly not compassionate and in no way wise.
That such unkindness, lack of empathy & common decency is wrapped up in a mantle of religious ‘values’ is appalling and little wonder why religion is so often looked down upon.
Little wonder also that frum Jews go off the derech; from a derech such as that it’s far better to flee!
“While living as a man”
Liberals are crazy. This mentality ill man is a sicko who wears a dress.
Only man can father kids.
And only liberals can think otherwise.
He can call himself a woman and ask others to do so as well , but his genes betray him, the very genes that he relied upon to help bring into this world, his children who he claims to love and cherish.
How can he love his children when he cant love himself?
“Don’t judge a person until you are their place!” Where did I see that?
UKAnimist I’d pity your children if they were to mingle with that family’s children. Don’t we want to keep our children pure?! Why should they fill their minds with such garbage! They should never come into contact with such people. It’s bad enough that we adults read about this. Really vin, why did you have to print it. It’s sickening!!!
This is a very sad story with no winners. However, we layned two weeks ago that Yosef assured his brothers that Yosef’s being in Mitzraim was only due to HaShem’s rotzon, and had nothing to do with the mechirah of the brothers. HaShem doesn’t make mistakes! While I don’t anyone to accept or sanction an alternative lifestyle, we are clearly being asked to have rachmones for everyone in this story – for the wife, for the children, and yes, even a guy who now believes with all his heart that he’s really a woman.