NEW YORK (VINnews) — New York doctors and nurses outraged by the criticism being aired online and in the media about the way they are treating COVID-19 patients have responded angrily, claiming that their is no justification to the claims about their treatment and that they are putting their lives on the line to try and save as many people as they can.
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In particular medical staff took issue with the following video aired by Sara, a nurse practitioner who is not working with COVID-19 patients and who described what she had heard from a friend who is working in NY hospitals but did not want to be revealed.
In the video Sara claims that doctors and nurses are “neglecting patients” and “leaving them to rot and die”, and not using the right medications or PPE equipment which would prevent more infection.
Sara’s clip unleashed a large amount of responses. An ICU doctor refuted her arguments one by one:
Rebecca, an ICU nurse from New York also responded to Sara’s allegations, stating that even though initially some patients were not getting CPAP and BIPAP, this was because there was not enough knowledge of the disease and it was thought that ventilators could save lives in most cases. When it became apparent that patients required other measures these were implemented.
Enough of this BS risking lives everyone I know in my Neighborhood Crown Heights Brooklyn has Covid it was exposed to it heavily it’s a mild flu for 95% of younger people.
chances are that all of the medical staff were already exposed and exhibited only mild symptoms and there is no great risk currently for them to work in hospital.
If It wasn’t nearly impossible to get a job working in a hospital We would not have this problem.
You don’t need four years of school to change a patient’s diaper.
“ You don’t need four years of school to change a patient’s diaper.”
Hands down one of the stupidest things I’ve read. You sir/madam….are a moron.
I had a family member who experienced this live. ( not covid related stay but the strain was obvious) Nurses can give any excuses they want. There is gross incompetence and they are lazy . Nobody talks to each other , wrong meds were administered. When asked which meds can I take to reduce pain the response Was, I don’t know whatever we have you can get. They were nasty lazy and stupider than stupid. They have total disregard for human life. And it was multiple nurses
I witnessed this so nobody here has the Nerve to open those fat mouth and dispute this bec the failing nyt says different. Unless you yourself experienced nice nurses you have no opinion and shut your mouth .
Ps I am sure there are a few nice ones but overall #notmyhero’s
we need to hear from the families of the patients who were niftar because of the “neglect” in the NY hospitals. patients weren’t given anything to dring or eat “before” they were put on respirators and got worse from non-treatment. patients who were IGNORED when requesting help because the staff was lazy to change their masks & outfits when walking into a room
I can believe negligence, I can believe malpractice. But this nurse (has anyone verified that she actually is one?) is claiming intentional murder. A conspiracy. I wonder who might have hired this actress to come out with this report and what their real agenda is?
Lawyers make the world safe
This doc sounds like such a dope.
“Nurses can give any excuses they want. There is gross incompetence and they are lazy.”
I think that you and all those who are like minded should start publicly calling them out on this in public spaces. Next time you see a doctor or nurse start shouting at them that they are murderers either willfully or out of incompetence or out of laziness… Of course you must not discriminate and you must publicly shame all the frum nurses and doctors for being murderers and lazy and incompetent as well as keeping quiet about the fact that their colleagues are also all lazy and incompetent. And then start a whole movement where you form groups to go out and spit and curse all the doctors and nurses. This is just what this country needs right now, this will clearly motivate them to become either better or to kill themselves. And if they kill themselves it’ll be fine because you and your ilk without any medical training will be completely capable to take over the medical system- you don’t need 4 years of medical school to change diapers. You should definitely do this and I very much look forward to the response you get. Hatzlacha rabba
Sara is totally right…those other doctors trying to say that there is no neglect sound like fools. There is a lot of neglect in ny hospitals and it is NOT okay.
Any experience outside of covid eta doesn’t count. Because there’s always family members watching so the nurses behave. We’re talking now during covid where no visitors are allowed even spouses and the patients suffer and die alone. A lot of them because of neglect. I don’t have first hand experience with this BH but I absolutely believe it
Again please explain why hatzalhh was founded and is needed today? Why not call 9/11?
Of course frum people value life more.
You also fail to rationalize how you can talk if you did not see the callous ness while i did
That is their job you want to be a nurse do your work. Some of them very lazy looking only for pay check.
Before the covid19 crisis, i sat with a fam member daily in a local hospital in the ICU for a few weeks and then in a regular room for another week or so. The nurses did not extend themselves or go out of their way to help. They did their job. Most were not especially friendly either and most of the time we felt like we had to be in their good graces and that they were doing us a favor (the patient was not demanding or needy). When the patient was transferred about 1.5 hours away there was a remarkeable change of staff behavior. They were super friendly and forthcoming. I believe there is some truth in where a commenter here says we are kissing up to the local hosp as PR). They can do better with better training and oversight!
the neglect is part of this mageifah…this is a tekufah of ligit shaas din. We all gotta do teshuvah and unite. All the best
U guys are a bunch of retards yes there are some dumb nurses but do you realize the sacrifice some make just to go to work some are staying in RVs or hotels and cant be with their family because they got sick on the job i personally know a frum nurse who does her 12 hour shift 3 times a week and then goes to the hospital every other day to go around check on the frum patients and calls the family with them instead you just attack all nurses i agree and she agrees that some are dumb but you dont understand the situation and fyi those nurses that came in are travel nurses who are actually quiet good and no they dont spend 4 yrs learning to change diapers and they reject people from med school bec they are too dumb (probably like retarded archy) and btw they honestly couldnt care less about you honoring them just dont throw them all under the bus
Gosh, we have become a community of Epistemic Dissidents.
1. No visitors policy is mandated. As a physician, I find it cruel; but I well understand that it is done to stop the spread of the disease. That being said, it was and is inhumane.
2. For hospitals with limited PPE in the initial stages of the epidemic, nurses HAD to limit exposure to an individual patient because the risk of cross contamination were great- as well as the risks of their getting disease.
3. “The hospital on 10th Ave” was probably the best hospital in Brooklyn to be in during this plague. And because of the negligence of the Boro Park frum community in March, the numbers were overwhelming. For your own sake, please google disease spread in late March/Early April within 11219 and 11230. Learn of the self-inflicted damage we did to ourselves.
Please be honest with yourselves and more thought out in your comments. There is certainly room for criticism in certain actions and policies of individual hospitals. But unless you were there in March and April- as opposed to with your family during Pesach- as well as seeing the sheer numbers of medical survivors, as a community we need to figure out how to communicate our frustration than irrationally lashing out at nurses.
There was definitely a mismanagement by our terrible mayor and govenor they should’ve been better prepared and done a better job managing the hospitals
Archy Hatzoloh has many malpractice lawsuits every year. You wouldn’t believe the numbers. You can’t satisfy all the people all the time.
Do you all think it’s coincidental that as the stories of abuse and neglect increased, the death rate decreased??
Why haven’t we heard groups of diabetics, cancer or HIV patients or their families telling so many stories of abuse/neglect???
When in history did we have so many nurses and yes even physicians telling stories of abuse???
Why weren’t family members EVEN IN FULL HAZ-MAT SUITS allowed to visit??
Wake up yidden?? We are עם חכם ונבון
The issue her is absolutely not the doctors or any healthcare provider. it’s our State leadership for not preparing right and not taking responsibility for their actions they had 1000s of hospital beds to be able to provide better service and they rejected it. the idea that family members could not be with patience that’s what killed them.
If you want to be a anti vaxxer for yourself and/or your offspring that’s your opinion and for you to decide. But why did they claim it’s for religious reasons? Who made that up and when and where did that come from.
Hey Honest (In your case an oxymoron)
There are Rabbonim who paskined that we SHOULD daven in a minyan with social distancing. Furthermore Gov. Cuomo just admitted that 66% of all patients admitted to hospitals were those WHO STAYED HOME AND DIDNT DAVEN WITH MINYANIM.Please ask your posek about that.Your abject hate for Jews is clear SHEME ON YOU!!!!!
@simeonaweber AGREED! Well said. Shame on u
Honest 
manny. Listen to the gedloim.
the following info. is from a nurse friend who works there… maimonides was, and is a dead sentence, hellhole
patients were definitely neglected by some nurses, and the environment of indifference is the norm there in general, if god forbid your loved one is in need of a hospital never ever go there, and we should demand a full investigation of all staff.