NEW YORK (VINnews) — The Supreme Court of New York State issued a restraining order in favor of the parents of children from the Bais Yaakov D’Chassidei Gur whose children were suspended from the school after their fathers attended the tish of Rabbi Shaul Alter in Brooklyn last week. The temporary restraining order, which is in effect for the next month, requires the school to refrain from:
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- Suspending or expelling girls from Bais Yaakov D’Chassidei Gur
because of their religious practices; - Sequestering girls to a segregated room because of her religious practices;
- Harassing the infant plaintiff because of her religious practices.
- Taking any action against the infant plaintiff because of her religious practices.
Moreover, the restraining order “is conditioned and shall remain in effect so long as the girls follow all the rules of Bais Yaakov D’Chassidei Gur and refrain from disparaging
Rabbi Yaakov Alter.”
[The Headlines Will Move On. But Will The Girls?]
The order also requires the school to explain within the next month why there would be grounds for suspending, sequestering or harassing girls because of their religious practices.
About 100 children were suspended from attending the school after their fathers went to the tish of Rabbi Shaul Alter despite a directive from the rebbe, Rabbi Yaakov, not to attend any functions of Rabbi Shaul.
Why would they even want their children there? Also as far as i know yidden belong in din Torah not in secular court. Just wondering if they got a hetter from a ruv. Does the Rosh Yeshiva agree with going to court?
Especially if they don’t really want that school
According to halacha going to court is a terrible chillul hashem! Also I’m pretty sure those guys don’t want the school anymore so maybe focus on getting a different school instead of fighting in court… Unless the point is to fight.. and besmirch… Either way very SAD!
I think its a total disgrace how the whole Jewish world, and the רבנים are just sitting quiet and letting Ger get away with their disgusting, brutal acts against humanity… women told to get divorced, kids against their father , ruining simchos etc.
The רבנים constantly come out against smartphones, long wigs etc. , why don’t they feel the need to come out against this? is it because they are scared? so that means they have a נסיון not to come out and voice their opinions, so how to they expect everyone else to overcome their ניסיונות? when they talk about smartphones..etc.
I certainly think we have to listen and respect רבנים under no circumstances, but I do have a big question on their silence on this matter…
Very misleading as far as i know the ger rebbe is not involved in the directive
Also i think the main news on this ruling is that students speaking against the rebbe is a cause to suspend
Hey the court agrees that ‘disparaging grand Rabbi’ is a reason to expel the question is did they do that?
Why in court? Is beth din not valid?
Big news for lawyers!! Court agrees mocking rabbi of school is grounds for suspension!
I think the headline be that
It seems like the rosh yeshivas ppl love the courts over beis din in Israel they use court as well against ger
Shame on gur!
This type of behavior i tough has long been expired
A courageous judge.
We would hope our leaders can set better role models of how to deal w people we disagree with. Throwing children out of school is a very poor example.
No excuse to kick kids out of school! Ever!!
You’re all missing the point. Most of these girls never said a word against ger and wouldn’t even know what to say. If anything it’s the ger girls that are bullying and shaming these kids.
What a non sense is bieng presented, that a bies din is needed to debate, when kids are thrown out of a school system in middle of a season. For what, beacuse thier parents believes in a different Rebbe. Really.
It’s the opposite, you are supposed to use the power of the law, by using the court system to help this kids.
Shame on GUR, is this yiddiskihet to own your power and ego on people, and children are suffering, this is a crime against humanity.
In any democratic country this is unheard off,
People are allowed to believe in whatever they are believe, however children can’t be be the victim, beacuse someone wants to own thier power.
Cult
What a shame that we need a non Jewish judge to put a restraining order on a Yiddishe Khilah that shouldn’t harm other Jews.
Is this whole mess REALLY because Rav Shaul wanted to continue teaching lomdus instead of bekiyus?
Here is a quote from moshe Taub a respectable mashgiach in Ger re the recent R Shual visit .
״די אמעריקאנער אידן זענען חולי נפש. גייסטיג קראנקע מענטשן. טויט משוגע. מ׳דארף זיך דערווייטערן פון זיי״
The Americans are sick souls, really sick people, dead crazy, you need distance yourself from them.
Now all you gera defenders let here your lies how ger never bullies etc..
I heard the recording so don’t you deny it? It’s time to denounce your fringy group and join the rest of the world . Stop being fakers.
Why would someone want to split from Gur?
Now we have the answer.
Beautiful now mosiach can come such achdus! This is what they learned from the magayffah? From the terrible tragedy s of meron?need I say more? Disgusting we don’t need to look further why we’re still in golus ayy yiddin truly love each other or we will keep being in this terrible maztiv
Did someone from the school take attendance at the tish of Rabbi Shaul Alter?
Bottom line is this,
The entire world looks at Gur now as fringy and peity. The only ones who still buy into their power struggle is their own chasdim. The gantsa velt is nisht mishiga. All the rosh yeshiva ever wanted was to teach torah in a little bit of a different style than the reba. Unlike Bobov or Satmar he never wanted to be reba, never asked for money etc. Yet he was thrown out and made persona non granta? Why??
PS I am not discussing the after he was thrown out and current state. I am discussing what brought him to this point? The answer is nonsense. he was a threat bec he had charisma and a following. Its sooooooo fake. You gur chasidm need to wake up to the rest of the world.
If I was Rabbi Shaul Alter I would set up shop here in NY.
THIS STORY NEEDS CORROBORATION!!!!
I just did a simple google search and there’s absolutely no source for this story other than VIN. Why is this?
Facts matter
The number is not even close to 100 its under 20.
Second the directive did not come from the rebbe and there is no proof that it did.
Third the court actually AGREED that disparaging the rebbe is grounds for suspension but wanted proof.
Fourth the court only requested for info to remove the tro
The article was written to make the school look as bad as possible.
What is the basis for the machloykes? I come from a Gerer family and my uncle was the Mayor of Bnai Brak and all my cousins were Sfas Emes and never heard of such a andralamusie…
do we have names of the actual people who filed?
this problem only exists among ashkanazim,
As far as I’m concerned R’ Yakov Alter owes nothing to no one, it’s his school, while it may be the wrong thing he can throw out whoever he feels like so be grateful for being allowed there till now, and rewire your mindset that you deserve everything.
Are ppl actually sticking up for this regime because the number is not 100, is one harmless girl not enough for a outcry, for whoever is familiar, (and I think everyone defending is.) what’s happening here in America is honey, in Israel families are broken, women are forced to ask for a divorce, parents, grandparents, can’t go to the kids weddings etc. And this is going on for 3 plus years, and yes it probably started with one girl kicked out of a school
Absolutely scandalous!! Shame on all of you ! Do you not have better and more important issues to be busy with – for instance helping other Yidden, doing any mitzvas, beiing a good example of middos tovos to your children and other Yidden, etc, etc,? Are you so bored and foolish as to be enticed by the sitra achra itself, and to become part of the eirev rav, right before Moshiach ???
Shame on all of us. The “Archu’ois” need to enforce basic humanity for us. The days of torah and buttay dinim are pretty much behind us.
Legally the temporary order will be overturned because American courts cannot dictate, direct or order any religious institution or school on how to act, interpret or implement any religious beliefs, practices or policies they so choose.
Additionally, as a private school, even aside from any religious issues, a private school can kick out any student for any reason.
No different than the Jewish Syrian communities rejection of converts