LAKEWOOD, NJ (VINnews) — Rav Uren Reich shlita, as part of a weekly shiur, felt obligated to speak up against the recent violence in the Gerrer kehilla.
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He expressed his dismay at recent events, saying that an unprecedented “red line” was crossed, which was never before seen in Klal Yisrael. For a Jew to hit another Jew is something which is completely unheard of.
Rabbi Reich said that he does not like when the term “Rasha” is used to loosely, because it loses its meaning. However when a Jew hits another Jew, he truly is a rasha, he is lashed in Bais Din, and does not count toward a minyan.
He told a story of the Chiddushei HaRim, the first Gerrer Rebbe, who once instructed someone to guard his office door and not allow anyone to disturb him. In the meantime, a crowd gathered but the man prevented them from entering. The crowd, however, grew impatient, and they thought that the man was acting on his own, not on behalf of the Rebbe.
One man stuck his foot in the doorway, preventing the man from shutting it to protect the Rebbe. In response, the man who stood guard slapped the man, causing him to remove his foot.
Later, a minyan was needed for davening, and there were exactly ten men including the man who had stood guard at the door. The Rebbe said that they still needed one more for a minyan. When asked why, the Rebbe said that the person did not count, since he had hit a fellow Jew. The man replied, “I only hit him to protect the Rebbe’s kavod.” However, the Rebbe was adamant that there is nothing respectful about hitting a Jew. That is not an act of respect, but rather an act of rish’us.
Rabbi Reich said that the current Gerrer Rebbe is certainly unaware of the behavior being done to protect his honor, however, the people behaving this way are doing something that is unacceptable and unheard of as members of Klal Yisrael.
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In the Holocaust, for entertainment the Nazis would force Jews to fight one another. My father ah, a very strong person his whole life, would hold down the opponent but not hit him. The Nazis knocked out all of my father’s teeth. But he never would hit another Jew.
“Rabbi Reich said that the current Gerrer Rebbe is certainly unaware of the behavior being done”
Believe that and I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
He also needs to condemn aguda for enabling this great cover up
I am not Gur , but to say that the Rebbe is unaware of the behavior is not believable.Rabbi Reich : Do you wish to emend or retract that ?
That the Gerrer Rebbi doesn’t know is the only fact that Rav Reich was incorrect. Nothing happens in Ger without his direct knowledge and involvement. He issues the instructions and then adds “nisht in man numen “. He and his family are totally involved
Sad but true
My only question of all these Rabunim and Roshei Hayeshivos what took so long for them to make a statement? There has been bloodletting going on in Ger for the past couple of years, true not on such a great scale and not chillul shabbos, however maybe it would have never come to this scale and the chillul shabbos would have been avoided if they had the guts to say something when this all started.
We need a unified response to the pogrom, there should be an isur helping out the perpetrators in any way, for example the heavy money they are spending to promote the ppl who took a test some months ago. It’s unimaginable how every part of klal yisroel is helping them cover up what transpired or by getting lots of money or by fear
They should learn from Menachem Begin. we are responsible for each other.
I admire the courage of Reb Uren, the speech is to the point. its irrelevant if the rebbi knows or not for the sake of the message and being dan lkaf zichus he said what he said. the most important thing is the message. that this is a POGROM which was directed from the higher up using shameful tactics of the nazis and the chilul hashem is nora vehoum. by GER doing what they did they hurt the whole klall yisroel but who they hurt most is the gerer kihleh the are so many gerer chasdim embaraced by what happend and outraged.
PEPOLE SHOULD BELIVE ” EIN OID MELVADO” HASHEM RUNS THE WORLD AND THE SAMEWAY IN BUISNESS YOUR COMPETITON CANT TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM YOU THE SAME THING APLIIES TO THE REBBES, AND FIGTHING FOR THE KOVOD OF A REBBI THRU CREATING A CHILUL HASHEM IS AGAINST THE TORAH AND SHOULD BE DENOUCED BY EVREY YID.
Hashem yevorach es amo bashalom.
worse than the person doing the hitting is the rabbonim and admor of Gur remaining silent.
Rabbi Reich is right! I hate sinas chinam!
The rebbe had “Ruach Hakodesh” but he only sees what he wants to see….
for years, certain elements of the haredi community have been attaching solders, policeman and anyone else they think is a threat. They spit on the very people risking their lives everyday so they can study Torah. Most offensive of all they, call them Nazi’s. Where did people think this would end?, only with attacks on non haredim. Does anyone think it is hard for a follower of the rebbe to see a follower of the rosh yeshiva as an apostate worthy of a beating? This is the natural progression of uncheck hatred. The leadership is completely to blame and they should be the ones not to be able to join a minyan
Rav Reich’s remarks were right on point.
I am admiring Rav Reich’s optimism that the Gerrer Rebbe does not know what is going on in Ger when it is those closest to him who are leading this onslaught.
I also find it intriguing that Rav Reich was silent when there were more than fists thrown at one another within the Ponovitzer Yeshiva not so long ago, and still did not mention this currently. No Jew should lift a hand upon another Jew, whenever, whatever, wherever.
The Roshei Yeshiva and Rabbonim share responsibility because they did not speak up before. They allowed the situation to reach this point and NOW they act as if they are shocked!! Where is Agudah? OH, I forgot, they are just a rubber stamp for the establishment. Agudah will NEVER stand up and take a position which mighty endanger any sources of $$$$!!!
When people follow a rebbe blindly, that is not chasidus. That’s a cult led by a cult leader! If you find things that disturb you , you have to look elsewhere for real Torah and Yiddishkeit!
Rabbi Reich said that the current Gerrer Rebbe is certainly unaware of the behavior being done to protect his honor
So, tell him. It doesnt involve going to the moon.
Can Rabbanim stop trying to protect these crazy rabbanim. we’re not that stupid of course the ger rebbe knows.
Bh someone speaks up about it.
Strange – we have been beating each other for the last 200 years. Tolna vs. Breslov and Sadegera, Satmar vs. Klusinberg and Lubavitch etc. etc.
The Rosh Yeshiva sounds like it just started,
Maybe he should give beis din mesharim of Lkwd a good shmuz
Such a group should be ashamed on the vicious acts they allow and indirectly promote.
This yom tov in gur we were told by the big people to stop all the fighting and now its really done with.The 30,000 strong on one side and 300 on the other can move on!!
Why the myth that Shayna Yidden never beat each other? I can remember beard pulling incidents and streimel chucking in BP and on East 9th St in Kensington near the yeshivah. Jews gone wild…
please read the divrei chazal and the sefarim hakedoshim about GERIM GARRURIM, fake jews who call real jews, fake jews.
cant make the torah up
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Have you read the Tanach?
So he knows more than the current rebbe
[MODERATOR: OF COURSE! RAV UREN SHLITA IS ONE OF THE MOST BRILLIANT ROSHEI YESHIVA ALIVE]
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