JERUSALEM (VINnews) — In a desperate attempt to gain votes in the battle for the leadership of the Meretz party, MK Yair Golan has once again lambasted the chareidi community, asking why IDF soldiers should defend worshipers praying at Yosef’s tomb if those worshipers do not serve in the IDF.
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“What is going on at Yosef’s tomb is lunacy,” Golan said in a Thursday media interview. “I was there lots of times, its ridiculous. Just to think that IDF soldiers could be killed while securing groups of chareidim who do not even serve in the army.”
Golan was referring to the terrorist attack which occurred when a large group of worshipers arrived at Yosef’s tomb for the monthly visit to the holy site.
On Twitter, Golan also attacked the heads of the Religious Zionist party, claiming that “they did not endanger their lives in IDF service but are happy to endanger our children in the name of a messianic vision which is not accepted by a majority of Israelis. It’s time to tell the truth.”
Golan’s credo is untenable- does he believe Israeli Arabs should not be defended because they don’t serve in the IDF? What about those ineligible to serve because of health issues? Why is religion less important than health? However the biggest falsehood is the claim that chareidim do not serve. Thousands of chareidim do army service every year, many in combat units. The following picture was taken in the last week, showing chareidi recruits.
Sorry, he has a point. I am stunned to see the energy of the Chareidi youth expended at demonstrations. the comparison to those that are not healthy is faulty, look at any other society.
Your argument about those that can’t serve because of health or other issues is a straw man argument because you can’t logically defend your position. One side would like to serve but can’t and thee other side doesn’t want to serve.
Your argument why religion is less important than health is also a straw man. There is no conflict between serving and religion.
Furthermore, no one claims that chareidim don’t serve – it’s that far too many don’t want to serve. Instead of defending themselves and perhaps having to put themselves in danger, they prefer to be protected by having the other peson put himself in danger.
One might not necessarily agree with what he said, but why is it “desperate”?
As for haredim serving, yes a tiny, tiny minority do.
But it’s such a deviation from haredi culture that the ones who do so are no longer considered “haredi” by haredi society in general.
Golan is saying he does not wish to risk his life for the sake of people who AS A MATTER OF IDEOLOGY refuse to risk their lives for the sake of other Jews.
Again, I might not agree, but it’s not unreasonable.
Yair Golan: ‘Why Should IDF Soldiers Secure Chareidim Who Didn’t Serve In IDF, Endanger Their Lives?’
Uhh the same reason they defend anti-army Israeli leftists like Meirav Michaeli and Zehava Galon .
Yair Gilman has called IDF soldiers Nazis ..
I think what he’s really saying in more general terms are” you spit in our faces and have not one ounce of hakoros hatoiv”.Not to say that the left has much respect for charaidim either.
Golan certainly has a point. Why should they risk their lives for unnecessary excursions who don’t serve in the army and curse out the government. It’s such hypocrisy on the side of the travelers. I’m sorry, I call BS when I see it.
And the chariedim who serve in the army are seen as traitors, so I don’t want to hear anything that.
Because despite mentality of your country, they contribute in many other ways. They are the ones that are your first responders! They run into the danger. zaka, chesed shel emet, eyc. Those are organizations you lo dati Don’t care about it. They’re the ones doing your work for you! Besides they’re spending money which helps you also.
They are learning for you because you are too big of a grubbeh sheygitz ahm haoretz to do it yourself!
I once spoke with a soldier shortly after his IDF service ended. While not ritually observant – this defender of Jews and Israel had been stationed in Shechem. I asked him how bad it was — his answer was that it was generally difficult but, on every Rosh Chodesh, when numerous busloads of Israelis came to pray it was a whole other story and the action rose to new levels. I asked him if from his perspective it would be better if they did not come on Rosh Chodesh, I got an EMPHATIC NO -and he explained that it is a given that there will be physical confrontation between the Arabs and the Israelis — not a question of if — but a question of where — he was happy it was in Shechem and not Yerushalayim —
i think this keen perspective applies to Shechem, Chevron and many other places — If you want perspective, ask the soldiers in the line of fire, not politicians who are primarily concerned about getting elected — and in Israel today you have to be either understanding of Haredim or be Anti.
Well what do you expect from a racist lefty atheist.
I feel that a lot of Chraidim would join the IDF if their basic religious needs would be met. Like Kosher food, Separation of the sexes, time to davan etc.
And why should police in the USA protect the citizens that never applied for a job for a police officer?
Silly argument. Sorry.
Because Chareidim were there way before you were even an afterthought. You decided to Setup shop, no problem. Don’t expect everybody to go along with your ideas.
Not long ago, the very same left-wing parties were complaining that the Army, particularly the officers corps, was too heavily populated by kippot srugot.
So – are the Religious Zionists too entrenched in the army or do they not participate enough? Both can’t be true….
Right on! They should not protect tourists or pregnant women or any visiting politicians that does not that doesn’t serve in the IDF. Great idea, also new elderly Olim do not deserve protection.
What an antisemite! what a lousy leftist! This is what being liberal is all about! HATE!
There is nothing to discuss.
Zionism and its army are literal shmad.
The Zionist State claims to be “the Jewish State”. Their army is an indoctrination center regarding what the Zionists call Judaism.
As long as their army brainwashes its inductees into a different definition of Judaism than is the actual definition, that’s as anti-Jewish and anti-Chareidi as possible.
Moreover, in almost every civilized country on the planet, they have a volunteer army that gladly protects all the many citizens who do not serve in that army.
But not in the North Korean paradise and not in the Zionist paradise. The Zionists specifically draft every 18 year old because they need to brainwash (i.e. shmad) them. That’s offensive to Jews. Period.
General speaking any Yid who goes into the dangerous territories where the Arabs are ready to kill Jews in an instant is just plain insane and is going against Pikeach Nefesh.
As far as the IDF,had there not be an Israel there wouldn’t of been needed an IDF. Atheist Torah hating Jews created a Jewish Israeli state off course they need an army to protect.
No Frum Yid should ever serve in an Army which goes against the will of the Almighty.
That’s like whites not serving blacks because they don’t work.
Typical zionist that YU and Young israel shuls “pray” for