NEW YORK (VINnews) — In response to the vicious NY Times article attacking Chassidic yeshivas, multiple people have spoken out on social media in defense of the community. Some of the defenders are not even members of the Charedi world, yet they recognize the existential threat posed by the government being allowed to invade yeshivas and dictate their curriculums.
80 years ago we were stuck into the bottom of page 26. Now we're on the front page, on top of the fold.
Shame! pic.twitter.com/unXYxZPXxC
— Yochonon Donn (@Yochidonn) September 11, 2022
Before you even get to the article, NYT's headline is already bad: "In Hasidic Enclaves, Private Schools Flush With Public Money." This plays on the trope of Jews as greedy and unethical with money.
— Melissa Braunstein (@slowhoneybee) September 11, 2022
The result of a two year @nytimes investigation is a pitiful rehash of cherry picked data and inaccuracies, peddled by the same group obsessed with Orthodox Jews.
What’s clear is that the NYT is not interested in the positive value of our schools, just spreading lies for clicks.
— Simcha Eichenstein (@SEichenstein) September 11, 2022
Hasidic New Yorkers are doctors, lawyers, businessmen, elected officials, journalists, and more. There are thousands of stories of success in the community. Instead, the Times chose to focus on a few unfortunate cases.
It’s a shameful & transparent attack on Orthodox Jews. https://t.co/IQ6BV0iyH4
— Chaim Deutsch (@ChaimDeutsch) September 11, 2022
It is instructive because the NYT cherry picked statistics to present a false narrative about Hasidic schools but yet no other community, African American, Muslim, Latino etc…would tolerate a broad brushed hit job on their students & way of life. This isn't about education.
— Chaskel Bennett (@ChaskelBennett) September 11, 2022
If you think the NYT story is about Chassidic education, you're sorely mistaken.
It has never been about education.
Its about our way of life.
The same people that have a problem with our education, have a problem with our synagogues, stores, the way we eat, talk & dress. https://t.co/1hl5strbBF
— Yaakov (Jack) Kaplan (@JackKaplanNY) September 11, 2022
The public discourse on Yeshivas isn’t about Math or English.
That’s the shiny cover.
This is about culture and values, where parental choice and Jewish education is considered bad, while kids choosing irreversible gender transformation is good.
— David Shor (@DYShor) September 11, 2022
Of all the antisemitic crap out there, I’ve never seen anyone accuse Jews of failing to educate their children. This piece is disgracefully false and defamatory shame on the @nytimes for breeding such bigotry pic.twitter.com/bn6f27sW86
— BrookeGoldstein (@GoldsteinBrooke) September 11, 2022
Stalin also used yiddish to make his agenda more accessible.
HooRa HooRa HooRa https://t.co/rA2PmtsRra
— Rabbi S Litvin (@BluegrassRabbi) September 11, 2022
No one cares more about the education of my children than my wife and I, and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you.
— Benny Polatseck (@BPolatseck) September 11, 2022
Thanks for "caring" about the Yiddish speaking population.
If you really want to be inclusive, why not offer other articles in Yiddish, besides the ones that smear Chassidim? Perhaps because it would not advance your anti-religious agenda. https://t.co/U39ab7Nmry
— Yaakov M (@yaakovmshow) September 11, 2022
We are not Hasidic. But I’m not stupid, once you undo Hasidic schools, ours are next. Have you heard about the mandatory study of alternative lifestyles in the UK? If progressives get their hands on yeshivas, this is only the beginning.
— WomanSkeptic (@DomesticatedThe) September 11, 2022
I think the instinct of many Jews, Orthodox or otherwise, to defend another segment of Jewry when it appears they are being vilified in manner and an arena which does not allow for nuance or constructive response and will undoubtedly generate more animosity is commendable. https://t.co/HClCWICEM4
— Litvacitus (@Litvacitus) September 11, 2022
So NYT found that Yeshivos got $1 billion over past 4 years. divide that by 150,000 students….. averages approx $1300 per kid per year…… that's a huge amount… vs. a public school kid in NY receives average of $30,000 per kid…. Maybe we should fight for this equivalent. https://t.co/ffoh6ojHMl
— boroparkhocker (@boroparkhocker) September 11, 2022
Can't help feeling that these NYT reporters just don't like Hasidic Jews. In an age of identity politics this is the one group that it is OK for woke entrepreneurs to condemn for their way of life.https://t.co/JgnnGvft4X
— Frank Furedi (@Furedibyte) September 11, 2022
Instead of all the “Askanim” tweeting and going on the offensive. Go on the DEFENSIVE and endorse out loud Lee Zeldin for governor. I’m not interested in anyone’s tweet and press releases. Tomorrow’s front page of any orthodox paper should be an endorsement for Lee Zeldin. We Yidden have the ability to elect Zeldin if we are united as one. Chasidish, Litvish, Yeshuvash, we can all do it together…
We’re doing everyone a disservice by lumping the yeshivas that provide an excellent education together with the ones that provide none at all.
Chaskel bennett is both fjcc and aguda board member BOTH groups are actively helping hochul and in fact FJCC endorsed her can’t have it both ways
Thank you privileged white female Kathy Hochul. You and your crooked husband are responsible for this smear on an entire race.
On September 11!!! A day of the greatest 21st century and NY tragedy!!! But no! Alas! The NYT has more important business to discuss on the front page. Tragic and . . . desperate.
Satmar needs to respond to this article by endorsing Lee zeldin for governor, and not endorse hochul/ NY times as they are One and the same.
If anyone is upset at this, they need to look internally. They need to look at themselves! If you keep voting for the left, Democrats for the uneducated, eventually they’re going to turn around and bite you. The Democrats do to us what they do to the blacks. They come to us every two or four years when they need our votes. When they need votes they’re there for us. When they don’t need votes, they’ll do this to us.
It’s about time the Jews in New York and elsewhere, wake up and realize that their almighty salvation is not going to be from the left. It may not be from the Republican/conservative side but their chances are far better.
Rush Limbaugh was right, it takes no brains to vote Democrat.
the government goal is to teach “alnernative lifestyles” they know that Satmar/Aguda/ and most of all FJCC will ALWAYS support Democrats so they know they can control these court Jews with a few boxes of matza etc. and a picture at a breakfast but the goal is to prevent an entire generation growing up believing that toeiva is bad and they cant do it with the current regulations. Too bad we dont have Rav Avigdor Miller to say it like it is and call out Aguda/FJCC for cuddling these Democrats for $$$$$.
hmmm, so where did that billion dollars go? Why is tuition double then it was ten years ago?
There are at least 2 different issues regarding legal and financial fraud and abuse in this article –
1. the English/secular education of Chasidishe kinder and 2. the funds that come from the government in different forms to support the Yeshivas and as welfare payments for children, food, housing and more.
Add to that the other issues of bloc voting and political support.
If you read the NY Times comment sections you will see that this article has many, many comments.
My impression from reading the article and the comments is that the people who are upset believe that the NYT had no right to expose something that everyone in the religious Jewish community already knew about.
This YIN article that copies all the anti-NYT comments and responses makes it look like the general public has come down hard on the NYT. But take a look at the responses to the article on the NYT site, and you get an idea of the Chilul Hashem this has caused.
And don’t blame the messenger…
IMAGINE such a hit piece from nyt against any other group what a outcry it would bring we are in galus WAKE UP its elul we had in the generations such enemies and god didnt let us fall may we be zoche to moshiach soon
let’s look at one and only one metric in comparing Hasidic schools with NYC Public Schools. CRIME STATISTICS.
End of story.
Satmar needs to respond to the disturbing potching accusations which we all know are true. And I mean smacking kids violently for stupid things and not your here and there one patch for chutzpah
Oh please. The New York Times doesn’t hate or like chasidim. The reporters followed the story which received attention when former yeshiva boys went public with their lack of education.
If the samar schools feel the were maligned, they can sue for libel but that would mean exposing their curriculum to public scrutiny.
My daughter goes to bais yaakov and the teachers are terrified because they’ve been told that this sorry will effect them. It won’t, they get an excellent secular education. This is about exclusively Yiddish speaking schools that provide no secular education beyond some arithmetic.
Even yeshivish places like chaim Berlin will be fine. The government isn’t looking for prep school level standards, just basic instruction.
Also, for the people pointing put that many chasidim succeed, that’s like saying all kids should focus on basketball in lieu of studies because a few make the nba.
Is anyone saying the Times story was wrong in any important way?