New York (VINNEWS/Rabbi Yair Hoffman) This is one of the most painful subjects in our community. It is also one of the most misunderstood. When a young person walks away from Torah and mitzvos, most people look outside the home for the cause. They blame bad friends, a phone, or the culture all around us. Those things are real, and a wise parent does not ignore them.
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It may not be politically correct to say it, but a not insignificant part of the time, however, a child who leaves is reacting to something inside the home, not outside of it. [Please note: This, of course, does not apply to all cases – as there are many other factors – trauma, school environment, social influences etc..]
Teens who reject their family’s way of life are, at times, reacting to hurt and fights with their parents, and the parents do not see it. They are not reacting to some flaw they were born with, or to the outside world.
There is also a second concept, a scientific one, that helps explain why the damage goes so far. Deep in the brain is the amygdala. It is the alarm system that warns us of danger. It does not care about hashkafa or theology. It cares about safety. When a child spends years in a religious setting feeling like a failure — or worse, feeling neglected or abused — the brain starts to connect things. Slowly, the symbols of Torah, like Shabbos, or the Gemara, or shul, or Tzniyus, get tied to pain. An effective moshol is an electrical outlet that shocks you every time you touch it. After a while, your body screams at you to stay away.
Looked at this way, “leaving” is often not about beliefs at all. It is a way to survive. A life of Torah is supposed to calm a person and make him feel steady. But when it does the opposite and fills him with stress, the teen runs in order to feel safe.
Here is the hopeful part. A parent cannot change a child’s nature, and cannot block out the whole world. But a parent can change the relationship. And that relationship, more than anything else, decides whether Yiddishkeit feels like safety or like pain.
So here is an article written backwards It does not claim to have all the answers. But it is a suggestion that may open up our eyes. Imagine someone wanted to push a child to leave. Suppose that was the actual goal. Here is how to do it. Read each one, and the right thing to do may become more clear.
Turn The Home Into a Courtroom
Make the house a place where the child is always being judged. Let every talk come back to grades, behavior, and what he or she did wrong. One Torah educator asked a set of parents to record everything they said at home for a few days. When they listened to it later, they were shocked at how often they criticized their children. Most parents who do this have no idea they are doing it. Too much criticism is the number one thing that breaks the bond between parent and child. A child who feels the home is a courtroom will stop showing up to be judged.
Build A System That Values Only One Kind Of Child
Set up a system where only one thing matters: being smart and able to sit and learn for many hours. Make sure any child who does not fit that mold knows he or she is worthless.
Picture the boy in the back row who kept drumming on his desk. The teachers called it a problem and wanted to punish him. Then a teacher named Mr. Johnson did something different. He handed the boy a pair of drumsticks and told him he was made to be a drummer. That boy did not have a behavior problem. He had a talent waiting to come out, like a statue waiting inside a block of marble. When a school treats one kind of child as better than the rest, it turns into a prison instead of a place that helps children grow. A child who is told that who he is just isn’t good enough does not only leave the school. He leaves the system that he thinks approved of that rejection.
Treat Every Question As Rebellion
When a child asks why, treat it as back-talk instead of curiosity. Shut him down with “we don’t ask that.” The Sefer Chasidim teaches that the mitzvah to respect parents also places a duty on the parents. They should not be so harsh that the child cannot hold himself back and rebels. A child who is not allowed to ask his questions at home does not stop having them. He just takes them somewhere else, to people who are happy to answer.
Make Yiddishkeit Joyless For The Child
Take out all the joy and leave only the rules. And make sure the joylessness lands on the child in particular. Let the adults enjoy their friends, and their lively Torah talk. Meanwhile, the child’s whole experience of Shabbos is being corrected: sit still, stop fidgeting, why aren’t you bentching. Yiddishkeit is passed down through the generations, and parents are the ones who pass it. If the relationship carrying it is broken, what gets passed down will be broken too. A child who only tastes the rules, while the warmth happens over his head, has been handed an empty box and told to treasure it.
Make Kedusha Sound Like Nothing But A List Of No’s
Turn a holy life into a cold list of rules, especially about closeness and marriage. Fill the child with the fearful, and often simply wrong, messages about these things that push so many people away. This is actually a twisting of the tradition. The Holy of Holies was the most sacred place that ever existed. Inside it were the Keruvim, two figures shown in a loving embrace. The Gemara tells of a student named Kahana who hid to learn even how his teacher Rav acted with his wife, saying, “it is Torah, and I must learn.” Real closeness in Judaism is built on being open and a little vulnerable, not just on following rules. Take the human warmth out of religious life and leave only a wall of no’s, and you have removed its soul while keeping its rulebook.
Compare, Constantly
Hold up the neighbor’s son, the cousin in the better yeshiva, and the sibling who just gets it. And get the child wrong while you do it. One father complained that his son never opened a sefer at home. But that same son was learning hard at an out-of-town yeshiva and only came home once a month, when he naturally needed to relax. The father read it as laziness. A child who is always measured against others, and against a false picture of himself, learns he will never be good enough. And a child who decides he can never measure up eventually stops trying.
Choose Shame Over Guidance
Answer every mistake with a label and some embarrassment. Be the father who calls his daughter with a learning disability “lazy” or “a manipulator from day one.” Shame tells a child that he or she is bad. Guidance talks about what the child did. Only one of the two lets him stay in the room.
Make Love Depend On Being Religious
Show the child, in a hundred small ways, that your love goes up and down with how observant he or she is. Rav Chaim Pinchas Scheinberg pointed to exactly this as the root of rebellion. If there are rebels, he said, it is because they were never given real love. The trap is the gap between loving and accepting. Almost every parent loves his child. Many find it much harder to accept the child as she really is. And a child can feel the difference.
Never Apologize, And Never Go First
Hold the line that a parent is never wrong and should never have to make the first move. Use the easy excuse: that you can’t be expected to change while the child is still acting up. But a parent and a child do not share the relationship equally. Most of the responsibility sits with the parent. It is the parent’s job to build something warm and steady, no matter how the child is acting right now. A parent who can never say “I’m sorry” and never goes first teaches that the system is stiff, harsh, and not worth staying in.
Treat A Struggling Child As An Embarrassment
Care more about what people will say than about the child in front of you. Think of the father whose sad, withdrawn son left the Shabbos table in the middle of the meal and went to his room. The father was not worried about a clearly hurting boy. A child who feels he has become an embarrassment to the family has already started to leave.
Model Bullying, Then Call It Religious
Teach a child that pushing people around is how strong people act. Teach him that connections to great rabbis are tools to use, not relationships to live. Picture a father who builds a close relationship with a great Rav. Then he uses it as a weapon. He drops the Rav’s name to win arguments, to pressure a neighbor, to lean on a rebbe, and to shame anyone in his way. The whole time, he acts like the Rav’s most devoted follower. The child sees all of it. He learns two things at once: that bullying works, and that religion is just the costume it wears. The same thing happens at home when a parent puts down a spouse at the table or picks on the weaker child. Often, mean behavior is a cry for love that never came. A child raised to bully in Hashem’s name usually sees through it in the end. When the child rejects the bullying, the Yiddishkeit it was wrapped in is also rejected.
Now Do The Opposite
Read the list backwards and the way home appears on its own. Stop criticizing, and mean it — a put-down said with a smile or “for his own good” is still a put-down. Put the relationship ahead of the behavior. For a while, be willing to overlook the late mornings and the hanging around so you can rebuild the bond underneath. Do not use every right you have just because you have it. A rule that makes a child angrier costs more than it is worth. Notice small progress as it comes, instead of holding back your approval until the child is finally perfect. And change the belief at the bottom of it all. The child is usually not acting out of meanness or laziness. She is acting out of a real pain that can be reached.
Under every one of these is a single idea. It is not observance. It is attachment — a safe, loving connection. The opposite of a child disconnecting is not a stricter standard. It is the unconditional love of a parent. The day a child pulls up to the house in a car on Shabbos, or shows a tattoo —is a huge crossroads. The parent’s own dream lies shattered on the floor. Every instinct says to set a hard boundary, or to cut the child off to protect your other children or your values. But the lifeboat for that child is the parent who chooses the child over the broken dream. Real safety is what finally lets a stressed-out heart relax. Only from a place of safety can a person ever come back and see Hashem as a reason to celebrate instead of a reason to feel ashamed. When a child feels loved no matter what he has chosen, the pain slowly loses its grip.
None of this is meant to blame parents. Raising children is some of the hardest work there is, and most parents are doing it while carrying heavy loads of their own. It is meant to show how much power a parent holds. The same power that can drive a child away is the power that can bring her home. In any home where a child is struggling, the most important sentence may also be the simplest. Make the child’s happiness, not your own nachas, the goal.
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It’s very thoughtful. However, there is one major point missing which is a major reason why children leave the derech. It is the hypocrisy that they see. Parents who preach Ruchnious but are knee deep in Gashmious. Unfortunately much of the Frum community is so into Gashmious that it is hard to believe. Everything has to be fancy. Unbelievable spending on bar mitzvahs and weddings. Children’s shoes must be bought for a couple of hundreds dollars. I could go on and on. This is not the way Frum people should live. It is totally against the proper Hashkofo. When children see this, it leads them to believe that it’s all hypocrisy and leads them off the Derech.
Actually my son and many other boys I know are rejecting the yeshiva mesifta system which forces them to learn in yeshiva from early morning to late at night. They wish they could be home more with their loving family. Stop blaming parents and look at the system in yeshiva that is making boys resentful!
I used to come to my sleeping teenager’s bedside after coming home from shul Friday night and tell him, it’s totally ok that he misses tefilla b’tzibbur. But Oneg Shabbos and having a seuda is not optional. He must come and eat with us. (Of course if he slept through it, I only put away a full plate for him). I had been to too many meals where the parents gave the child a hard time for ‘just coming downstairs to eat, but not going to shul’. Most of those times the embarrassed kid just went back upstairs. If we were halfway through the meal and my kid came down I would get up and greet him with a genuine smile, setup kiddush in the kitchen and be sure there was no one (sibling or other) to give one moment of embarrassment.
BH, five teenage boys later, now young adults and they are the most wonderful, kind, caring and considerate people that I know. And all yorei Shamayim.
If you see anything in your child that you think you need to fix. FIX IT IN YOU!
Bravo!
Also, the dishonesty of the establishment who preaches one way yet acts another. And it crosses religious level lines, from Modox to Haredi. They preach that every kid is a unique diamond, but actually believe and practice the opposite. There are some exceptions, but by and large, they just want obedient robots, following orders and the herd.
Just be honest, for G-d sakes!
Articles like this often sound more certain than reality warrants. It’s easy to explain how to keep children on the derech when speaking from theory. Parents matter enormously, but they are not all-powerful. Yishmael had Avraham as a father, and Eisav had Yitzchak and Rivkah as parents. Even the finest parenting cannot always guarantee outcomes. We should focus less on assigning blame and more on supporting families facing these challenges.
I agree that doing these items on your list will increase chances of kids wanting to go away from it and possibly even go off the Derech.
However, it’s false that kids always go off because of their home. The notion that a kid can’t grow up in a healthy, frum and loving home and still go off .. is false.
But I still love the way the article was written, maybe some people will read it and see themselves in it and make some drastic changes and increase their chances of frum generations.
It is not about being “frum.” I avoid that four-letter word like the plague. It is about menschlechkeit. If the parents place the highest premium on being decent, honest, humble, gentle, respectful, refined, and non-materialistic, their child will follow suit. If the parents don’t give in to destructive technology, exorbitant semochos, and five-star vacations–if the child grows up in a home where the father works and learns, the mother cooks and is an eyshes chayyil and “beryeh,” and the child sees that his parents don’t gossip, don’t steal time and don’t steal money–if the child is blessed with such an upbringing, he will grow up to be a mensch. A MENSCH. Everything else is commentary.
The most important thing is to strive for truth.
Yidishkeit should be based on deep ideas, not hype or social interactions. When someone steps on your foot, the social interaction turns sour, but deep ideas remain no matter what. Hype may sometimes be used for a short period of time — as a battery is used to start a car engine, but then the engine has to immediately switch to gasoline, a pure gasoline and nothing else — only emes can feed emuna. Emuna based on hype is an oxymor0n.
Applications:
Don’t make a black hat or any other fashion a defining feature of yidishkeit, because only limud haTorah is.
Don’t waste school time and effort on trying to revive Yidish as some kind of a yeshivish ceremonial language — loshon hakodesh (including some aramish) is our language and it needs to be revived in our school system. One can’t learn Torah at full capacity without knowing grammar and vocabulary of loshon hakodesh. I said loshon hakodesh, not modern Hebrew.
When learning a sugya in gemora, don’t confuse yourself and others with “pilpul”. Instead, always ask what the maskona is, what effect each piece of shakla vetarya has on the maskona, what repercussions does a certain peirush have on the maskona. You will find this method to be much more rewarding intellectually, you will immediately understand kushyos that rishonim and acharonim are asking, and this method falls in line with learning the halacha.
Most importantly, stop showing off and impressing others. Be real. Emes allows no room for pretending.
Rabbi and many of the enclosed comments
You have chosen to understand the kids in pain and the worlds parents behaviour
So let me start by saying that you may be right by some but we have a 19 y o struggling suffering kid Who is the nicest best smartest etc etc etc you can imagine and is a kid in pain. He lives at home and will not move away for any money in the world. We love him more than anything in the world and we have a loving home We gave him love and understanding together with support I can keep on going
The Cheder system failed him. The rabbeim messed him up. Some of them like gestapo. And I know many wonderful parents that did everything right So my suggestion is to speak to some families Find out the truth Don’t kill thousands of families with an opinion
Thank you
Lack of discipline given to the kids nowadays, is probably the reason so many kids go OTD ר”ל
Rabbi Hoffman has taken it upon himself to issue a well thought out, point by point, multiple choice list of blaming the parents for the unspeakable agony of losing a child. So if parents did everything right and didn’t show enough emotion, we still got you on that, so of course, the parent is to blame.
It is shocking, hurtful, and inexcusable, to rip at the non-healing festering wounds of parents who are suffering through צרות only השי״ת understands. You think you know kedoshim? Kedoshim are these parents who continue in the derech hatorah and don’t lose faith, despite the terrible decrees visited upon them, and despite the wagging and accusing fingers pointed at them by society. How does one not fear attacking these parents?
Rabbi Hoffman and VIN owe an apology to these parents. And daven hard that they find it in their broken hearts to forgive you. I’m sure you know the mashal of the chafetz chaim with the pillow and the feathers. The pillow has been ripped and the feathers have flown.
You are describing exactly what Reb Chaim Abadi’s Z”L method of bring back hundreds or thousands of those boys and girls into the fold and develop a love for real yidikeit.
Many of these points are true. However, all this takes away responsibility from the child for their own behavior and puts it squarely on the parents shoulders. Kids go off even when there is lots of tolerance and love. The parents are not always to blame, especially in todays crazy climate of all types of influence = the yetzer horah. Many of these points are quite outdated…
Please turn off comments to this article if plan is to delete them. It is ganavas Z’man to allow people to type up comments then just delete them. I saw at least 7-8 besides my comments
The boy in the picture is clearly confused. There is nuance!
Painful to read
keep deleting them VIN. I’m going to email the Rabbi directly to tell him what I think.Unlike when we were children and had to just listen (and get beaten) by these tyrants, we have more options as adults. Yay!
Nice list of pet peeves.
But nothing to do with the OTD phenomenon. Even if OTD kids claim these reasons, that does not mean it is true.
This is insulting to the kids who go off; it’s condescending and arrogant. It refuses to recognize the fact that some people can look at Torah and Yiddishkeit and simply say it’s not for them. Leaving can be a rational decision with no relationship whatever to family dynamics. Let’s not insult our kids/adults who go “off”. Let’s respect them enough to engage them in a way that treats them with regard for their intelligence.
what happened to the rest of the comments? Is VIN censoring those comments that are critical of the article??? What a shock that would be!!!!!
Relational trauma plays a huge role in kids going OTD. Because the core of Yiddishkeit is an active relationship with Hashem, the parent-child bond serves as the ultimate blueprint.Sadly, many parents (often due to their own unhealed spaces) lack the capacity to provide the “4 S’s”: making kids feel safe, seen, soothed, and secure. When that earthly foundation is fractured, it creates massive struggles in all their relationships—especially the one with Hashem.
well written
Never a fan of “reverse articles” or “miklal lav ata shomeia hein” when the same message can be served straight up.
I do agere in some way with most said.
Every kid is a world on his own. Chanoch haNoar al pi darko. Our difficult jobs a parents is to connect with each one in their way and guide as best as we can.p
I love Rabbi Hoffman!
Right on!
I know many who follow this letter and their kids are off the derech and comfortable. I know those who do their job of chinuch which this letter says not to do but b”h the Torah says yes to do and their kids are on the derech and comfortable. This letter teaches no derech eretz.
Thank you, Rabbi Hoffman!
Why is my comment not allowed to be posted?
My father, Rav Nachum Muschel, a very well respected Torah educator of the 20th Century, used to say to me “Show me a young person who is ‘off the derech’ and I will show you a person whose educational needs were not properly addressed.” Of course, education is required at the home AND in our schools. And its not a generic suit-it needs to be custom made to the child’s needs…with sensitivity, support and chizuk to the child every step of the way. To believe in the child when the child has trouble believing in himself/herself. To let them know that they are not competing with anyone but themselves and that YES they can. Teach them to face their challenges – to confront them from a secure place. It is more true today than ever.
Wonderful article, Rabbi. Some commentors have added other factors they believe play a role, and I would join them by adding that overly strict and abusive Rabbeim can play a role as well. however; this article focuses on a super important element, the parents.
We are wired from birth to strongly attach and stay close to caregivers, usually our parents, for protection during the vulnerable years of childhood. We also are wired with a “fight-flight” in which we generally feel a strong impulse to run or hide (flight) from things that make sure feel scared. When the source of fear (a scary/rejecting/harsh) parent is the same “object” that we need to attach to as our main source of protection (at least till we are old enough to leave and find other sources) it leads to all sorts of defenses and problem behaviors.
Thus, regardless of other sources of “flight” from our upbringing and yiddishkeit that some have noted, this article is a good reminder to us all about the importance of good parenting (including myself; theory is great and all, but as a human being when my kid opens a fresh mouth, it is so hard….)
great article
shkutzim! arup fin der tumeneh internetz!!
Very interesting and well written article. The problem, I would suggest, is as follows. Let’s say you have a couple whose first two sons are doing beautifully in Yeshiva. The third one, however, is showing some bad signs. Very few parents will say to themselves that there’s something wrong with their approach. Rather, they’ll assume that it’s just taking this son a little longer to the get it.
The lack of geshmak in learning and the necessity of keeping up with krum sociopaths doesn’t turn anyone away? Today’s parents are children with a paycheck.
I will re-post so I can see if VIN will censor it again: Stop insulting the OTD people; stop the condescending and arrogant attitude. A normal, emotionally healthy person can look at Torah and Yiddishkeit and decide it’s not for them. There doesn’t have to be trauma, abuse, etc. Show some basic respect for people who disagree with you. NOTE: Let’s see if I get deleted again.
Applications:
Don’t make a black hat or any other fashion a defining feature of yidishkeit, because only limud haTorah is.
Don’t waste school time and effort on trying to revive Yidish as some kind of a yeshivish ceremonial language — loshon hakodesh (including some aramish) is our language and it needs to be revived in our school system. One can’t learn Torah at full capacity without knowing grammar and vocabulary of loshon hakodesh. I said loshon hakodesh, not modern Hebrew.
When learning a sugya in gemora, don’t confuse yourself and others with “pilpul”. Instead, always ask what the maskona is, what effect each piece of shakla vetarya has on the maskona, what repercussions does a certain peirush have on the maskona. You will find this method to be much more rewarding intellectually, you will immediately understand kushyos that rishonim and acharonim are asking, and this method falls in line with learning the halacha.
Most importantly, stop showing off and impressing others. Be real. Emes allows no room for pretending.
In addition to all the valid points is
The Cellphone
Now if a kid gets frustrated. All he has to do is call his friend who’s going through the same situation and boom their gone R’L
We need to bring back corporal punishment. A couple of good petch and he’s right back in the beis medresh.
Aguten shabbos.
Just curious, Is Yair Hoffman a real person or just AI.
Blame blame blame isn’t gone get you anywhere