Brad Lander, NYC’s Next Comptroller, Says He Will Push Orthodox Yeshivas To Teach Secular Subject

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Brad Lander, the incoming New York City comptroller, pictured at a rally in Manhattan in July 2021. (Erik McGregor/LightRocket via Getty Images)

NEW YORK (New York Jewish Week via JTA) — Brad Lander, the incoming New York City comptroller, vowed to do everything in his power to coax Orthodox yeshivas to teach a secular curriculum.

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Lander, who is Jewish and a Democrat, discussed the issue Thursday night in a virtual Q-and-A with the New York Jewish Agenda, a progressive policy group he co-founded.

The question of whether haredi, or ultra-Orthodox, yeshivas should be forced to teach math, English and other secular subjects has roiled city and state government for years. The state requires private schools to teach a curriculum that is “at least substantially equivalent” to public school education. Last month, the state announced that it would issue updated regulations relating to that law.

“The state law is very clear that all schools, including private and parochial schools, have an obligation to deliver substantially comparable and competent secular education, especially where the city is contracting with those schools for transportation and books,” Lander said. “It is a responsibility of the city as a whole and the comptroller in particular to be paying attention, and audit and make sure those obligations are being met.”

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Supporters of “substantial equivalence” say Orthodox children have a right to a secular education. Opponents say the law infringes on the religious freedom of the yeshivas to teach their students as they wish.

As comptroller — a position he described partly as the city’s “chief accountability officer” — Lander will be able to audit yeshivas and discover which ones are falling short of the state’s standards. But he added that he does not have the power to force them to change their curricula, and hopes to proceed in a way that paves a “pathway to compliance.”

“You try to be strategic in the use of the resources, and the goal of that work is to help win change, not just do a ‘gotcha’ audit that gets a headline on the cover of the Times,” he said. “This is critical. Making sure that all our schools, including our yeshivas, provide the education that our kids need and deserve is part of our job together and one that I’m going to be spending time on.”

Before being elected comptroller this year, Lander served for a decade in City Council, representing a Brooklyn district with a large contingent of liberal Jews as well as some haredi constituents.

“My district has the Jews on probably the furthest left of the spectrum and the furthest right of the spectrum in New York City,” he said, adding later, “I love my [Jewish] practice. That said, I have been enriched as an elected official and as a Jew by my engagement with our frum cousins,” using a term denoting traditional observance.

Lander spent the bulk of the Q-and-A discussing issues of interest to the city as a whole, from policies to combat climate change and encourage renewable energy to advancing school desegregation and his vision for public safety.

He alluded to, but did not directly address, another issue that has split Jewish activists: whether the city should explore divesting from Unilever, the parent company of Ben & Jerry’s. Earlier this year, the ice cream seller announced that it would discontinue sales in “occupied Palestinian territory,” generally understood to be Israeli West Bank settlements.

Along with other states, New York state’s pension fund divested its holdings in Unilever in response to the decision.

The comptroller is the fiduciary of the city’s pension. The outgoing comptroller, Scott Stringer, who is also a Jewish Democrat, said in a statement last month that he opposes the movement to boycott Israel, and that Ben & Jerry’s decision created the “potential for risk” for shareholders. He did not explicitly say whether he thinks the city pension fund should divest from Unilever.

Lander did not say, either — nor was he asked — but he did say that he supports Palestinian rights as well as the security of Israel as a Jewish state. He said he disagrees with some of his Jewish constituents “on how to approach the Israel-Palestine conflict, and supporting the vision of a just and democratic and Jewish Israel but also fighting for the human rights and self-determination of Palestinians.”


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I was a Democrat until I saw the light
I was a Democrat until I saw the light
2 years ago

And you idiots continue to vote democratic
Yo listen to
Self appointed and yes anointed lay leaders and now you got what you deserve

Momo18
Momo18
2 years ago

Here we go again…
I went to public school and oh G-d the things they tought back then (about 20years ago) is beyond nonsense let alone today’s garbage (not about math, and English that’s where it stops) Im not even going to mention science or history. Science r”l specifically when they teach child development from being to end (showing videos of it) and the human body and how it functions. History is all propaganda, race theory etc…I always told myself when I have children of my own I would send to private school even if it was not Jewish. Let a only when I did go to Jewish school ( I went to both public and Jewish ) the education in the Jewish school interestingly enough was much higher level then public specially city schools

Last edited 2 years ago by AhavaTorah
tell the truth
tell the truth
2 years ago

Mr. Lander you were elected to be comptroller not school chancellor. No one asked for your unsolicited advice. Lander was my councilmember. This guy is more left, woke, and progressive then Deblasio.

Democrats support Jew haters and terrorists.
Democrats support Jew haters and terrorists.
2 years ago

Jewish Democrat is an oxymoron.

Educated Archy
Educated Archy
2 years ago

No one is saying to teach the level of public school narishkiten. But a little bit?
You ask what use does knowing a little science algebra do? You may really need it for a job. And being a bit educated in the world you live in, also serves a need.
Now if a boy can sit and learn all day, one can argue the benefits are so minimal. But let’s be real, your average boy is not learning Gemara all day. They can’t and it’s too hard. So your chasdish boys are kratzing in the Mikva till 10 and yeshvish hock shtusim for 3 hours. The kids do nothing with their days. Greatest danger is the machlla of no structure. Unless a high school kid can learn all day, they should have English.
This is a new machla. Satmar used to have tough English with rabbi Frankel. There is no mesora for this terrible destructive ideal.
Ps I am very against govt intervention but we need to take action ourselves

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Huh?
Huh?
2 years ago

Where is Brad’s good buddy and promoter Friedlander?

Rats rats DemocRATs
Rats rats DemocRATs
2 years ago

I recall when this lefty DemocRAT was running in boro park and tons of cars had stickers reading vote for the mentch Lander of course. Now you all will have to move to Lakewood,Jackson,Toms River and Monsey areas. Because it’s not just English these lefty’s want in yeshivas but same gender education. All the local mosdos in Boro park will empty out like the ones in Flatbush are already. I won’t name all the ones who lost between 20 and 35 per cent of their students.

PaulinSaudi
PaulinSaudi
2 years ago

It is hard to argue against children learning the language of the country where they live. It is a good thing to teach children how to earn a living.

Yitzchok
Yitzchok
2 years ago

While being educated is a positive endeavor this Brad lander is a traitor to his people as should be treated as such he supports a terrorist Palestinian state posed with a Jew hating anti semite Linda srouer

Leftism Is A Mental Disorder
Leftism Is A Mental Disorder
2 years ago

Typical horrible leftist. The problem with being comptroller of New York is that you’re on the way to being a mayor at that point. New York really stinks!

anonymous
anonymous
2 years ago

good for him. math and such is not heresy. for this world you need it.
kol hakavod to him. go for it lander !!!

Maimoni
Maimoni
2 years ago

The “orthodox” yeshivas of today remind me of a famous quote by the British poetess Edith Sitwell:

 “I am patient with stupidity, but not with those who are proud of it.”

Wilbur
Wilbur
2 years ago

You can see what a big mouth he has from the accompanying picture but he’s got no powers other than to stir up a controversy and negativepublicity. That’s what the ערב רב sought to do and sadly they accomplished much.
There definitely is a need to learn and know English subjects: our kids are deficient in important Math and English language skills but this will only serve to paint us in bad light in the eyes of our detractors.

Phineas
Phineas
2 years ago

Its impossible to force because many yeshivas wouldn’t know where to begin. Nevertheless, yeshivas are short changing the kids if they don’t learn age appropriate math each year, some basic science (nothing fancy), basic spoken, reading and written English, and a surface level understanding of how the government works, i.e., three branches, separation of powers, federalism. Nothing too absorbing but enough to understand how the country works in theory.

D. Fault
D. Fault
2 years ago

If he pushes hard enough the yeshivas that refuse to give an education will just move to Guatemala (or some such place).

Liam K. Nuj
Liam K. Nuj
2 years ago

And to think I actually worked with this yutz when he was first starting out in the Jewish community about a decade ago.

Mr Leslie Satenstein
Mr Leslie Satenstein
2 years ago

American students coming to Montreal are really a disadvantage. We require students to have at least high=school livel in math and science. Their studies of torah are important, but the ability to not be on welfare or community handouts is as important.

tell the truth
tell the truth
2 years ago

I which YAAFED his ilk and these “well intentioned politicians would leave us alone. We know already its not about education YAAFED and Moster have an agenda. What do we want when a child leaves school? No its not proficiency in The English language (although it helps). Its thinking skills which all kids in our yeshivos get. Go to any beis medrish our students can write very well thought out divri torah. A few my children opened successful businesses B”H without going to high school

heshysquirtz
heshysquirtz
2 years ago

We should not be wasting our time with such narishkeit. Nobody ever got smarter from having an education.