Queens, NY – NYPD and the Medical Examiner’s office responded today to 67th Place in Queens, for a female that overdosed and died.
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The kind hearted 28-year-old former student of Bais Rivka of Crown Heights, slipped into a drug abusing lifestyle many years ago and today passed away from a drug overdose.
The Medical Examiner office reached out to Chesed Shel Emes who picked up the Nifter and made all arrangements for the funeral which was held today.
According to ‘Dysfuncional and Hopeless’ 12:08 – is saying, lets all go and ‘remove’ the dysfunctional people from society.
Perhaps we should start with you.
bd’e
may her family have a nechoma.
oyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!
tatte – genug shoin
Its so sad that the great people in Chesed Shel Emes have to be busy all the time with such tragic stories. Yibola hamoves lonetzach, Amen!
When will we wake up and admit that there is a problem, B”H not as significant as in the goyish world, but enough that we should be doing something about it. OD’s on drugs are not the only type of overdose. One can & does become addicted to alcohol and it is no less deadly. WAKE UP watch what your kinderlich are doing.Be nosy Be Concerned. Be a PARENT just like your Mamma & Tate were to you!
I became choked up with emotion when I read this piece of terrible news.
I have no words, just lots of thoughts…
Where are the Rabbis from the big concert Ban on this issue?
who?
what a sweet girl she was, baruch dayin emes
BDE, how dare you utter those words. There is no one out there that is hopeless and her being a frum girl makes it even worse.
maybe klal yisrael needs to look into what is going on…….. all the nos all the bands against the kids are causing them to look and see what these nos really are all about.that being a modern shomer shabbos yid is okay nothing wrong you do not have to be what some think is the right way.
BDE – that is just not true. if, in fact, the girl was from a dysfunctional family, where was the community when she was younger in calling ACS and having her removed from such “way past” dysfunctionality that she had no choice but to turn to drugs?
Truly a heartache May she have the Menuche she didn’t have in this world
Besiros tovos
Am I mistaken, or have we had an increase in duch deaths during the past year. I think there were at least 2 previous such incidents posted here. I’m certain that there are others than are kept quiet. Why do our youth turn to drugs, and what can be done to prevent it?
I know of a guy who is in the hospital right now and is BH doing better. he alomost died from the same thing.
R”L – how tragic!! May HKB”H Grant the family the true nechama!
Aren’t most of these overdoses accidental or due to more potent drugs then the user expected? Nebach. And if she was from a dysfunctional family we can dismiss it? That makes you feel better? It can’t happen to normal people from functional families? It can’t happen to me or my children because we are normal? I can dismiss this because,hey, she was dysfunctional? Nebach on her. Nebach on her family,and Nebach on us.
who was this girl that must have felt she couldnt tolerate life without a ‘high’????
You so called frum people are massive hypocrites! What’s with the Loshen Horah and judging? Perhaps if you would spend a day in someone like Gitty Grunwald’s shoes you would not be so quick to pass judgeemnt. Doesn’t the torah teach you people anything???? This is why people like myself ran away from your whole closed world. Ignorance and judgement are not what G-d asks of us and I suggest you all take a good look at your community and the way you judge each other. Of course kids are turning to drugs….it’s their only escape.
i think we have to smile to each other more, and give kind words, instead of what we are doing
this is not far fetched , there was 2 suicide attempts in Bais Yaacov Miami this year. so this Crisis is widespread
I would rather the community loses its malcontents and dysfunctionals like 9.29 AM, Gitty Grunwald and this family. We just can’t save the world or make room for every bit of flotsam and jetsam that comes our way. They drag the rest of us down and are a strain on resources that we just don’t have.
Such is life in galus.
She was a great neshoma that got nebach involved with the wrong crowd…This is what happens when a lone voice Like Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg wants to bring awarness to whats happening.What does he get in return? A KOL KORA AGAINST HIM. its a shame ,thsi will cost klal yisroel more Karboniss,its mamash retzicha,,Dont these rabbis get it? What wrong with them?
“vehaya machanecha kadosh” sometimes means that we just can’t make room for everyone out there.
You don’t even want to know what else ‘Chesed Shel Emes’ sees almost daily……..
Dysfuncional and Hopeless, Should we bring back the gas chambers that Nazi Germany closed down to help in ridding the Jewish world of your so called undesireables? In all the time that these boards have been around, I have never seen such words and hatred like what you are saying here. Shame on you. The words Mi Camcha Yisroel do not apply to you.
No, we need to get them help – but get them out of our midst. We need to be more selective about attracting baalei tshuva who can’t integrate into society. And in some cases, we need to let the bad apples frei out. They can’t hack it, we can’t force them to and then they come back to haunt us.
Why in the world are the Rabbis responsible? You and your kids don’t listen to them anyway, so how could they help?
Which Rabbi do you think has to open a drug rehab center?
If you are so concerned about the problems of society today, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!! Open an organization to help kids at risk. Private organizations that do not belong to a specific kehilla are the most successful. So all you blooggers who are so smart and know EVERYTHING, gather together and help instead of pointing fingers. And if you think that it is really not your concern because it cannot happen to your child, you need an eye opener ASAP.
Why is everyone pointing fingers at others? Point it at yourself! It is because of our avairos that we are in this golus where such terrible things are happening every day.
Many bloggers here feel that they are ABOVE the law, and I mean the laws of the TORAH. Sorry to burst your bubble. You, who are so busy bashing anyone and everyone will also be held responsible. Kol Yisroel Araivim Ze.
that is such a sick ,cold , un imaginibal thing to write after such a tradegy. shame on u ..may u wake up n do tshuva.
to anon 9:25 r u the 1 that used to eat chulent every shabbos @2nd ave Deli (non kosher & open shabbos) cus he said if the head is a little crazy the stomach doesn’t have 2 suffer I guess if u still read & comment this blog you didn’t really run away but U don’t tell us what hashem wants from us he wants us 2observe torah & mizvot and nuchem rosenberg sould say the Real names of All real molesters & stop blaming rabonim
Which Rabbi do you think has to open a drug rehab center?
Rabbi Fetter Shmiel. Uncle Sam. We pay taxes for this you know. Sometimes we just have to turn people over to the secular world so that we are not dragged down.
This is a tragic story but it is bringing out the worst (weirdest) comments – just remember, most commenters dont necessarily represent the readership. Many more (myself included usually) read and dont comment, the people with more time on their hands comment – keep that in mind when reading and it will temper the mishugas
Now in the 9 days, let’s have some compassion, hold our tongues a bit, and pray for the emes’e geulah
There is a drug rehab center in California run by dedicated Lubavitcher Shluchim. They have a constant flow of frum kids from New York. Many from very “respectable” families.
Dysfunctional:
Not even a tear. Not even a krechts or regret.
It’s because of trash like you that K’lal Yisroel has to endure this type of tragedy. You, who masquerade as a frum Yid, yet will scorn these delicate n’shamos, who need the most acceptance.
Instead of hugs and love, you offered her rejection.
When this n’shama was born, her family received all the good wishes that you received. A kiddish was made in shul. They drank l’chaim and everyone extended their mazal tovs for the good news. She was cute and she was a joy.
So what happened?
Hashem is the third partner in every child. If you have complaints, direct them elsewhere.
Kol Yisroel Areivin Ze L’ze, but just look at yourself and your rotten outlook at the world.
Chazal have already spoken about the likes of you and it isn’t pretty.
The only sane comment here is the one that asked why her family was not reported to family services.
The father was nisht fin inzerer. There was no kiddush.
A well meaning but overly open community welcomed the family and tried to do what it could. Another sibling mamash turned against the community. Even the Rebbe of that community went out of his way to make the girl feel special.
But she was just beyond help.
To: “Dysfuncional and Hopeless” your first few comments is fresh air after somany narisheh & krumeh comments, u r 1st/only that “redt tzu der zach”.
what;s this girl’s name – i’m 28 and was in bais rivka too – is she my classmate?
Most of you have missed the point. The schools must have as part of their curriculum organized sports, art, music and the like so that EVERY child can find his niche and feel comfortable with whatever they like so that they don’t need to turn to the outside. Let’s make the inside more palatable and less Assur.
There is a frum drug rehab in Flatbush run by FEGS in Flatbush for teenage boys.
Anonymous 11.19 – as little sympathy as I have for this family and the remaining dysfunctional members, I would never go so low as to post her name! Come on! That is stam trolling!
The rabbi’s are responsible!!! Becuase If they weren’t against everything else and trying to shelter and rule our lives these children would feel more implied to reach out for help.. They feel If they go to the rabunim they will just shun them out and then where will they be
BDE.. now she finally has piece
Thank you, Redt. It is not as if I want it to be this way, but we are in galus and there just are some people we can’t help, but they can sure drag us down. There is a limit to mesirus nefesh, and ahavas Yisroel sometimes means protecting those who can be helped from those who are beyond help.
If a brocho from a great tzaddik like the Lubavitcher Rebbe could not help this girl (assuming the dysfunctional family did not make up the story), then the help she needed was either not available or in the hands of law enforcement and social services and past what the community could do for her.
Addiction is a disease. Not always a curable one.
Does it matter what type of family she was from? NO
Does it matter how “frum” she was? No
Do drugs harm and kill frum or not frum? Yes
Do they discriminate? NO
Do we discriminate frum vs non frum???
Is her family mourning and in pain? YES
May hashem comfort the family!
Nebach nebach. What a charming person she was. Society killed her off. Wake up people, and stop being a shtik drek.
to dysfunctional and hopeless-
HOW DARE YOU????? you have some CHUTZPAH saying such lahon hara on a public forum!!! a day before we mourn the destruction of the bais hamikdash!!!! you should be ashamed..and ask mechilah of the family!!!
besides- you say they wer dysfunctional and hopeless? did you try to help them??? before you pass such judgement?? or do you just slander them to try to quiet you r concience for not doing anything??
geuss what i also grew up in a dysfunctional home and Baruch hasem with alot of siyata dishmaya and zechus avos i am very ok now….but my biggest taina against the frum community is ayeka???? where are you??? you can help!!! when i was a young child i always wandered why isn’t anyone coming to rescue me??? sure all the neighbors were quick to judge and talk lashon hara but did anyone do anything? don’t say hashomer achi anochi? am i my brothers keeper? yes!! you are!!! kal yisrael areivim ze lazeh!!!
as for you -you should dance on your roof top and thank Hashem every day for putting you into a normal family!! and continue to daven that they don’t become dysfunctional because that is up to Hasem!! so before you judge others worry about your own family!! don’t make room for hasme to judge you!! Nothing is in your habds except the choice of speaking lashon hara!!!!
may we merit to see mashiach bekarov!!!
Oh. please. Society did no such thing. She was sick with an incurable illness that has social ramifications and society just could not save her although she could have harmed others.
And yes, we must discriminate. HAMAVDIL bein kodesh lechol, bein Yisroel leamim……..
If your kid became a druggie because in a moment of weakness or because of teenage rebellion she found a girl like this, you’d be singing a different tune.
it only matters how frum she was and what her family was like because people are comparing this to cases that are very different. if anything it is the hopeless ones like this that ensnare the ones who are really just going through a bad time.
you turned out OK because you did not seek out anyone like this girl and her family. you knew you had problems. and if in the end you turned out OK SOMEONE was there for you. Maybe not the whole community because people have their own responsibilities and dont have training or know what to do – but SOMEONE was there for you.
I will be the SOMEONE who calls Family Services if I am ever confronted with something like this. I won’t try to save them and end up in the bloote myself.
to dysfunctional and hopeless-
don’t make room for Hashem to judge you !!! NOTHING IS IN YOUR HANDS!!! if Hashem wants your family can chas veshalom easily become dysfuntional in one split second!!!
such sinas chinam i haven’t heard in a long time!!! we try to act to people with middas harachamim so that Hashem will treat us with midas harachamim….why are you choosing to treat this innocent neshama with middas hadin??? may Hashem continue to treat you with middas harachamim regardless of your sharp and disgusting words!!!
AND MAY THIS GIRL HAVE AN ALIYAH AND MAY SHE FIND PEACE IN GAN EDEN!