Jerusalem – Chardim Stabbed in Clash with Seculars

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    fileJerusalem – Three ultra-Orthodox Jews were wounded, two of whom suffered stab wounds to the head and another beaten, after an altercation with secular Jewish residents of Jerusalem, erupted before dawn on Saturday in a conservative Jerusalem neighborhood, said spokesman Shmuel Ben Ruby.

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    The police spokesman said the wounded told police that they were attacked by secular Jews at the Bar Ilan Junction but said he would have no further details until the men could be interviewed again on Saturday evening at the conclusion of the Jewish Sabbath.

    The three were taken by a Magen David Adom team to Sha’arei Tzedek Hospital in Jerusalem, where they are listed in light to moderate condition.
    Police have yet to determine the cause of the incident. They have launched an investigation.

    For years there’s been simmering resentment as the city has become increasingly dominated by deeply conservative Jews, and thousands of secular residents leave every year.

    Relations between secular and religious Jews in the capital have been on edge since the mayor opened a parking lot on the Sabbath, sparking violent protests from the Eda Haredit ultra-Orthodox sect.

    Secular residents say that their religious counterparts are trying to impose their beliefs in Jerusalem. They turned out in droves last November to elect a secular mayor, Nir Barkat, defeating his challenger from Jerusalem’s ultra-Orthodox community.


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    Dag
    Dag
    14 years ago

    I was afraid this would happen

    The Litvak Yid
    The Litvak Yid
    14 years ago

    Not surprising… There is a war going on between the Bnai Moshe Rabbenu and the Bnai Moshe Mendelsohn. Right now it is mostly cultural but as we see here it is becoming physical… May HKBH protect the righteous pious charedi!

    kingsley   the chuchem
    kingsley the chuchem
    14 years ago

    Well! Well! While Hareidi Jews may light up garbage pails and allegedly attack an apparent malicious reporter with LIVE SPIT (both of which I disagree with ) in fighting for their Shabbos Veiws. Seculars use knives if indeed this story proves true. I remember (being myself in the fifties) visiting Israel during the intifada when a 30 year old European Holocaust survivors son , Tel Aviv Taxi Driver said to me– ‘If I had a choice to shoot a Chareidi Jew or Hamas Arab, I would kill the Parasite Chareidi!’ My 88 year old survivor father was in the car and started to cry. THe Chareidi shouting , or throwing diapers or spitting, while revolting and despicalble should not be compared to the Knifing of Hareidi Jews. WHere are all the criticizers now aand will we see those blaming chareidis again in their similar views to the Taxi driver above!!!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    This kind of behavior is no less acceptable coming from secular jews (assuming they were the instigators) than from the thugs at Edah Haredit who commit violence at the “shabbios demonstrations”. The perpetrators in both cases should be prosecuted and punished severely. Jews should feel safe in yerushalayim and it is real chilul hashem that this type of violence by jews against jews is happening.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    As the old saying predicts, violence begets violence, now we hear the story that on Shabbat morning two young haredim were attacked and stabbed by secular Jews, first I hope the police apprehend these tugs and will be prosecuted to the fullest extend, that said, this is what the problem with the protest, if the rabbis persist that the protest should go on, on way to bring down the level of violence, they need to make it clear, that only people who are older them sixty should attend, hopeful that would keep the violence to a minimum otherwise I am fearful that it will lead to bloodshed, and a schism which will take a long time to repair.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    stabed in the head !!!!!???? “mei yitten lei talmid chocam venshechnu neshichas chanmor!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    The chareidim asked for trouble – now they got it. I don’t feel bad for them.

    joe
    joe
    14 years ago

    In my opinion, the Charedi “protesters” mostly are people with a lot of time on their hands. These “protests” give them a something to do and a sense of purpose.

    NeveAliza
    NeveAliza
    14 years ago

    Now let’s use the Charedi approach:
    “It was only a very small group of very extreme secularists, and they weren’t sharp knives only butter knives, and they were just kid secularists not adults, and anyways you can’t believe the Charedi press they’ve always hated the secularists…”

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    How dod you know the secular didn’t start the fight and assaut the charid8 b0chyur9m

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Where is the reporter that was spit at last week does she anything to say about stabbing? Or because non religious do it we understand the anger?

    Pinchas
    Pinchas
    14 years ago

    We need to stop arguing about theories etc. and open our eyes. We do not need to be right but SMART. We chareidim need to get our act together and behave as the torah demands us to. Ahavas Chinom to every single jew. mThis will increase kevod Shomayim and stop this great chillul Hashem.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Let’s see what will be the antisemites on this site kids or will get hurt by this chiloinim nazis if they will have the same view ?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    #14 and #7 are absolutely correct. ok, maybe a knife is a little harsh. but these chareidim / low lives / chayos that have no care in the world to conduct themselves in a mentchliche manor. what these trouble makers need is a steel toe boot way up you know where – which they desperately needed when they were growing up.

    kingsley   the chuchem
    kingsley the chuchem
    14 years ago

    #18 Your totally inappropriate and untrue interpretation of my #4 posting is precisely what I tried to say that the Seculars have been programmed to hate Charedi jews and uninformed as u are by not carefully reading my response which is quite clear in noting the difference between the two types of attacks. Yet u attacked me because u can’t read English or know the true facts about Charedim today as #14 . U are both woefully inadequate in your comprehension or factual analytical; capabilities. That is the crux of the Chareidi Secular divide- woeful lack of facts or respect like the two of u for others or the truth!

    PMO
    PMO
    14 years ago

    I think the point is that violence begets violence. And as time passes, one side wants to “win” so the violence gets more intense.

    I hope whomever did this ends up in prison for many, many years. However, I am surprised that nobody here takes a pause to think about where all of this is going. These are all yidden. One day it is rocks being thrown at police, the next day it is trash bins set on fire, and the next day it is yid stabbing yid with a knife in the street.

    At this point, who gives a damn who is right or wrong! How the heck did we get here??? Everyone… BOTH SIDES… need to stop and think VERY carefully about where this is ultimately going? Are we going to start slaughtering each other in the streets like rabid dogs???

    Until we are all willing to be honest with ourselves that chareidim are NOT always right… that SOME chareidim are just no better than the scum of the earth who wear the “right” clothing…. Until we are willing to admit that at least SOME of the time, seculars have valid complaints about frumkeit being “forced” on them… even when we disagree… this will only escalate. When will it become too much? When there are bodies in the street? Is THIS what we are supposed to do to each other? Is THIS why H” saved us from the camps? Is THIS why H” brought us to E”Y?

    Once again we prove that we are our own worst enemy.