New York, NY – Plans to reopen the 2nd Avenue Deli could face a new obstacle after a federal appellate court yesterday revived a discrimination lawsuit brought by two waitresses who claim they were paid less and encouraged to retire because of their age.
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The U.S. 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals breathed new life into the lawsuit against the famed deli, reversing parts of a decision by a U.S. District Court judge in Manhattan who dismissed the case in 2005
The two former waitresses, Diane Kassner, 79, and Marsha Reiffe, 61, filed suit against the deli in 2004, claiming that the owner, Jacob Lebewohl, forced the women to work stations and shifts that paid less, and insulted them in ways that demonstrated age discrimination. [nysun]
Orthodox Jews would not eat at 2nd ave deli, as the meat was not glatt kosher and the restaurant was open on Saturdays. [vin]
Anon. 4:57PM & Scott. The determining factor [whether Orthodox Jews eat at a food establishment]in addition to serving Kosher food, is, wheather they observe Shabbos. The fact of the law (of Sabbath observance) is that if prior reservations are made (to patronize that establishment on weekday/s as well)
then, the Sabbath & Holiday meals are permitted. (provided, no cooking is done on the Sabbath. But to be open to walk-in customers
(who only eat there on Shabbos, is not permitted.
What difference does it make – the store is closed. As for Kashrus and being open on shabbos – there are many eating places in the city who are glatt and have special shabbos programs which have the restaurants open. And what about Mendy’s which has the sedorim on Pesach.
Scott,
I am a kashrus pro and while you make interesting points, you are for the most part incorrect.
As far as ortho jews eating here, they should not. They dont/didnt have reliable hashgocha. They were open Shabbos. There was bosor she’nisalmem min ha’eyin.
The meat was not glatt which granted many years ago in the old country when there was not a prevalence (sic?) of Glatt, would have been used but nowadays there is almost no excuse – at least here in the USA. I could also tell you that “non-glatt” also refers to meat that would be g’gusin even though one thing has nothing to do with the other.
MG
Scott,
You cannot eat there if you eat kosher. It makes no diff if they “serve” glatt or not. They are open shabbos and no on there has any ne’emonis.
Its time people stop thinking with the boich and use their head.
Actually 10:26 makes a valid point; its a shame that individuals are easily blinded by what’s put before them and not the facts.
For the author of the original posting to state that Orthodox Jews do not eat at this establishment is false and erroneously misleading. Some Orthodox Jews do/have eat(en) at this establishment and some do not, as is the case with just about all Kosher restaurants.
As far as the judgment on the Kashrut standards of this establishments, one need only look into Responsa of the Achronim to see that the norm for Kosher with regards to beef was not always Glatt, rather Glatt is an additional level of stringency that individual (pietists) adhered to. The fact that Glatt has been (to some extent) the benchmark for kosher beef in the 21st century is testament to our sorry state of knowledge and judgment, knowledge of kosher from un-kosher, and judgment of one Jew on his brethren.
anon 10:26
That is the best response you could think of–sort of senseless.
What KOSHER????????
Anon 10:26
You deserve no answer to your question.
How do you know who would eat there and who would not? Typically statement without backing!