New York – Can You Plea-Bargain in a Traffic Case? State Troopers Say No

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    New York – For years it was a normal routine in traffic courts in towns and villages across New York State: Drivers would negotiate at the courthouse with the state trooper or the local police officer who cited them for moving violations to reduce the charge. The judge would then make it official.

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    But the State Police, citing ethical concerns, issued an order in 2006 banning the practice, generating outrage among judges, town leaders, district attorneys and even some troopers. Local police officers still offer plea bargains.

    Now, some lawyers have taken an unusual approach to challenge the ban: fighting tickets using a law established after the Civil War to protect the rights of former slaves.

    The lawyers have cited the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, which mandates that laws be applied equally to everyone, to argue that the State Police policy prevents drivers from receiving equal justice. Whether a driver can negotiate a lower fine, the lawyers say, depends on where they get a ticket and from whom.

    “It stinks because it prevents people from doing what other people are permitted to do, based on the color of the uniform of the cop that’s pulling them over,” said Jonna M. Spilbor, a Poughkeepsie-based lawyer who has fought about half a dozen traffic tickets using the equal protection argument. Although some of those tickets were reduced or dismissed, she and other lawyers and judges said they did not know of any state judge who had explicitly ruled that the State Police policy violated equal protection rights.

    The issue may soon be decided by a state appellate court.

    Critics of the policy accuse the State Police, who wrote more than one million traffic tickets last year, of trying to save on overtime by decreasing troopers’ court appearances, of interfering with the judiciary and of placing an unnecessary financial burden on small towns. The State Police rule has no effect on drivers ticketed in New York City, Buffalo, Rochester and some towns in Suffolk County, where traffic violations have long been handled in administrative hearings set up by the Department of Motor Vehicles. Those cases are heard before an administrative judge, and there is no plea bargaining before the hearing with the ticketing officer.

    The State Police have defended the ban, saying they did not want to open the door to ethical problems by having troopers cut deals with people they ticket. That argument was echoed by Gov. David A. Paterson when he vetoed a bill last year that would have overturned the State Police rule. (The two previous governors, Eliot Spitzer and George E. Pataki, had also vetoed such bills.)

    Mr. Paterson said the bill “would undermine the authority of the superintendent of State Police to institute policies that will prevent troopers from engaging in conduct that could lead to allegations of impropriety, favoritism and corruption.”

    The State Police also said the policy does reduce overtime costs and keeps troopers focused on more important patrol tasks. The policy saves the State Police about $5 million in overtime and other personnel costs annually, according to a spokesman for the governor.

    Despite the complaints, plea bargains or dismissals in town and village traffic courts around the state have not greatly dropped since 2006, according to statistics from the Department of Motor Vehicles.

    Many towns have avoided the State Police directive by assigning special prosecutors who can offer deals to drivers who are given tickets by troopers. This adds fuel to the equal protection argument, lawyers say, because drivers ticketed by troopers in towns with those special prosecutors are treated differently from those in towns without them.

    But in the roughly two dozen counties where troopers also serve as prosecutors in court, some judges dismiss or reduce tickets, even when troopers object.

    And in some courts, troopers engage in surreptitious plea bargaining, said Thomas B. Mafrici, a traffic lawyer based in Cicero, N.Y. “I’m still talking to the trooper before I go to the judge,” he said. “It’s almost no different.”

    Lt. Glenn Miner, a spokesman for the State Police, said any trooper caught violating the agency’s policy would be disciplined.

    The State Police have aggressively sought to protect their policy. Two years ago, Francis G. Christensen, a town justice in Milan, reduced a speeding charge and ruled that it was “improper and unreasonable” for the State Police to ignore a defendant’s explanation.

    The State Police sued Justice Christensen, arguing that he overstepped his authority. Last September, a State Supreme Court justice ruled in the agency’s favor.

    Justice Christensen is appealing the decision to the Appellate Division, the second-highest court in the state. His lawyer, Marshall L. Brenner, said he planned to raise the equal protection argument.

    Mr. Paterson’s office has also rebuffed the equal protection argument, saying that despite the State Police ban on plea bargains, the county prosecutors in the area still have the discretion to offer them.

    But Ms. Spilbor said it was unfair that state troopers would not even listen to a driver’s arguments.

    “The discretion to negotiate with you as the motorist is gone because this policy does not allow for it under any circumstances,” she said. “By any other police agency, the discretion exists.”


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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    There should be no plea bargaining ANYWHERE in NY state. We need more agressive enforcement of the speeding laws and this kind of bargaining may be good for the lower East Side for schmatas but not for driving licenses.

    Government is not the solution to our problems, Government IS our problem
    Government is not the solution to our problems, Government IS our problem
    15 years ago

    How about pleading the case to an ADA instead of the cop being the prosecuter? If they want to streamline it, they could allow the defendant to submit his/her defense in advance of the case so the ADA could lower the fine.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    no more speeding to the country

    robroy560
    robroy560
    15 years ago

    I’m not a 100% I understand what’s going on… In the ‘old days’ the Troopers used to cut a deal with you because they made their quota and the local muncipality wanted their take.

    Now more of the take goes to NYS versus the local municipalities. I have a simple solution. Pay attention to the traffic rules and don’t speed.

    NJ Esq
    NJ Esq
    15 years ago

    I practice law in the State of NJ.

    Finally, in an indirect way, this article highlights NJ’s strong points. NJ’s Municipal Court is way ahead of its neighbor, the great State of NY.

    Yes you read right. The State of New Jersey got it right. Shocking, but true.

    NJ allows for plea bargaining in Municipal Court. It makes no difference if the summons/ticket was written a local cop or the NJ State Police.

    NJ allows plea bargaining for practical reasons. Plea bargaining is one method that is used to clear the calendar efficiently.

    Because of the plea bargaining process, in the State of NJ 97% of cases are resolved by plea agreement with the prosecutor.

    For example, in NJ, if the NJ State Police clocks you traveling 15 miles over the speed limit. The prosecutor might agree to lower the speed to 14 miles over.

    This plea “bargain” allows you to save two points, and saves the State the bother from schlepping down the issuing officer or trooper to Court.

    What “ethical concerns” are the NY state police referring too?

    In G’mara we have a saying: b’chlal ma’sayim ma’neh. Within 200 there are 100.
    If someone is speeding 15 miles over the speed limit, he is certainly speeding 14 over. Why according to the NY State Police is it such an aveirah to plea bargain?

    Maybe a NY attorney can enlighten me.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Please exlain why the equal protection act does not apply in NYC or other counties where ther is a TVB. The TVB was setup by the DMV to handle cases where no jail time is involved but there is no plea bargains. U can’t even ask for discovery, a fundamental right of every defendant. Now all the violations litigated in the TVB are charges under the NYSVTL So a defendant w the same violation in NYC is deprived the equal protection that is afforded the defendant in sullivan county

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    It has got nothing to do with it. I was cited for doing 84 in a 65 a few weeks ago and I was cruising on 70 on I 78. The same trooper pulled the same thing on me last year same story. They can say what they want and don’t seem to have any proof. Why is this different than any other case where the prosecutor must prove his case. Anyway I will be in court this week – no plea bargains- I will shlep that crook into court and show him for what he is to the judge

    I won
    I won
    15 years ago

    Although you don’t plead with the officer in the small courts you can plea barging with the judge. I did . I was charged with 83 in a 65 (although I am sure I was not going that fast) I pleaded for a parking ticket and won.

    SD
    SD
    15 years ago

    Here’s the real reason why local courts plea bargain:
    If the ticket is for speeding, it’s state violation and the state gets something like 80% of the $100 fine paid, while the town gets $20. If they plea bargain it down to a parking ticket, as they do in Monsey, the town gets the full $100.

    (I’m not quite sure of the exact percentages, but I’m in the ballpark.)

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    reply to 1 one of the main arguments not to allow plea bargaining is the abuse heaped onto this system by law enforcement. The cops in nj will generally always give someone they stop for a traffic infraction 2 tickets 1 for the infraction and 1 for a nonexistent felony or a tiny infraction such as no headlights on or lamp out basically the look for an excuse ticket in order that the plea bargain will uphold the original ticket totally. basically as everyone knows tickets are not given out to uphold the law ,it simply is a way to generate revenue for the township or the city.

    thinkingperson
    thinkingperson
    15 years ago

    #5
    do you think b4 saying or writing something [ i can only imagine that if you don’t before writing, you certainly don’t b4 saying]. A LITTLE SENSITIVITY WILL GO A LONG WAY and insensitivity to the wrong guy can cause severe damage. i hope you do not learn this the hard way. use your sharfkeit in a better way. I LOVE YOU LIKE A BROTHER

    me
    me
    15 years ago

    As long as we’re on the issue. The majority of parking tickets in Ramapo are improperly filled out. The idiot that designed the check off the box ticket in order to make it simple for police, did not consult the state law. The ticket MUST have the relevant statute chapter and verse, a description of the offense and if a certain time frame is involved it must state: no parking Nov 15-April 15, 12:00AM-6:00 AM. That is REQUIRED INFORMATION. If it doesnot have the statute number the ticket is trash. VTL 238. Previously the law read it would be dismissed upon request of the person charged, but because the courts where looking the other way even though they knew the ticket is bad, the law was rewritten and it’s supposed to be dismissed even if you don’t ask. Wishful thinking.

    Big Masmid
    Big Masmid
    15 years ago

    I dont get it. tell me may we still speed on the 17 way up to the mountains?

    mavin
    mavin
    15 years ago

    Section 238 applies only to large cities such as NYC and Buffalo, not Ramapo.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    The real question is how do different states abitrarily deem roads that are exactly the same (as in driving across a border on a highway) to be different speed limits…There should be a standard.

    moishie
    moishie
    15 years ago

    To the lawyer, the Rabbi and all the other commenters:

    The purpose of traffic fines in both NY & NJ should you care to check the respective statutes and codes, are to raise revenue for the state. As long as they get their revenue they’ll plea bargain. Of course the gravity of the offense is taken into account when lowering the offense. They are much easier on lowering points than on substantially lowering fine amounts. Drive safely or else deal with the K’Nas!

    # 17's biggest fan
    # 17's biggest fan
    15 years ago

    I don’t get it. Tell me, may we still speed on the 17 way up to the mountains?