Spring Glen NY – Homowack Fiasco Puts New ‘shtetl’ For Skver In Limbo

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    Reluctant Exodus: Members of the Skver sect leave the former Homowack Lodge, after a sum-mer spent fighting over alleged health and safety problems at the 450-acre resort.Photo by Times Herald RecordSpring Glen NY- Hasidic campers and families finally evacuated a Catskills-area lodge that was cited by the New York State Department of Health for numerous safety violations, just hours ahead of a judge’s deadline.

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    The reluctant exodus on the afternoon of August 9 from the Machne Bnos Square girls’ camp, at the site of the former Homowack Lodge in Sullivan County, N.Y., ended one chapter in the ongoing struggle between local officials and the Skver Hasidic sect that operates the camp.

    But the controversy over the site will no doubt continue. The Skverers have long-term plans to build a new town on the 450-acre resort nestled in a quiet, green valley just south of the state Catskill Park. It’s unclear what effect, if any, the public controversy over the camp’s decrepit condition will have on those plans. What is clear is that the episode has heightened tensions between the Skver Hasidim and their Sullivan County neighbors. In addition to growing scrutiny, the property owners now face potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines related to alleged health and environmental violations.
    Hours ahead of a judges deadline, Skver members evacuated the troubled camp.Photo by Times Herald Record
    Beyond a simple land dispute, the standoff at Homowack reflects a larger conflict between year-round Sullivan County residents and the tens of thousands of Hasidim who visit the area each summer. Some residents complain that the Skver Hasidim have received kid-glove treatment from local officials; many Hasidim, meanwhile, believe they have been unfairly targeted.

    “This summer gave us a setback,” said Jodi Goodman, a Sullivan County legislator who created a working committee nine years ago to improve relations between local residents and summer visitors, who can double or triple the rural county’s population. She said the Homowack situation was an anomaly. “The truth is, we don’t get that many complaints,” she said. “There are hundreds of other [Hasidic] camps and bungalow colonies that do a magnificent job.”

    The Skver community, a Hasidic sect based in the town of New Square, N.Y., bought the former Homowack resort in 2006. The sprawling property, a former Catskills hotspot that had fallen into disuse, included a golf course, a main lodge and about 20 out-buildings (one of which burned to the ground this summer in a suspected arson).

    At first, the Hasidim operated Homowack as a kosher resort hotel, but the owners soon revealed bigger plans. The Skverers published and circulated a 12-page brochure in 2007 describing a village called Kiryas Skver that would rise on the bucolic site.

    “We are talking about creating a city from scratch,” the booklet says, “building an infrastructure costing tens of millions of dollars, setting up a Talmud Torah, a girls’ school, a yeshiva, kollelim, a beis medrash, a mikva and other mosdos, as well as a shopping center, health center, etc.”

    In August of 2007, an estimated 10,000 Hasidic Jews gathered at the Homowack site for a celebratory dedication of the new town.

    Spiritual significance aside, neighbors were more concerned about what a new town would mean for their property values

    “It was not zoned for all this,” said Anita Altman, who owns property adjacent to the Homowack resort and who organized a group of local residents opposed to Kiryas Skver and other proposed developments in the area. “What they want to do contradicts the goal of the master plan of the town, which is to remain a rural community.”

    The Skverers purchased the Homowack property because they are outgrowing the town of New Square, founded in 1961 in Rockland County, N.Y. The all-Hasidic village has served as a haven and a fortress against outside influence, and its population has grown to 6,461 in 2008, according to U.S. Census estimates, up 40% since 2000.

    New Square was created to preserve “traditional Torah values, devotion to religious studies, a sense of modesty — to disconnect from what the modern world is offering in terms of ideology and popular culture,” said Mayer Schiller, a spokesman for the Skver community. Schiller said the best way he knows to explain to outsiders the extent of New Square’s separation from the modern world is this: “There is a school with 1,000 boys there, and not one of them knows who Michael Jordan is.”

    The 12-page brochure circulated in Sullivan County envisioned Kiryas Skver as the culmination of New Square’s growth. But, it noted, “stringent new environmental and other regulations” would have to be met.

    The Skverers, however, soon ran into regulatory trouble. This summer, camp operators never obtained the proper permits for the summer camp from the town or the state. A heating oil spill July 9 resulted in charges from the state Department of Environmental Conservation, and brought the camp to the attention of other regulators.

    The state Department of Health cited the camp on July 14 for “numerous, persistent and serious violations,” including inoperable fire alarms, pervasive mold and water running over electrical boxes, and asked camp operators to evacuate the roughly 300 children and adults. They ignored the request. Then, on July 24, the health department issued a mandatory order of evacuation. Again, the camp operators ignored the state and stayed put. Finally, Sullivan County Judge Burton Ledina ordered the camp closed. One hour before Ledina’s deadline of 5 p.m. August 9, according to the Times Herald-Record newspaper, school buses and a moving van pulled out of the property. Campers were reportedly sent to a nearby resort owned by the Bobov Hasidic sect for the few weeks remaining in the summer.

    The camp may now be empty, but hard feelings remain on both sides. Letters to the editor in the local paper show frustration. “What do we get from the Hasidim? Trouble… only trouble!” wrote Michael Keane in the Times Herald-Record.

    Meanwhile, the week before the camp shut down, Altman said she received a late-night phone call from a man claiming to be from the camp who yelled at her, “You made us homeless, it’s all your fault.”

    Altman, who is Jewish, said one of her biggest fears with the Homowack standoff is that it would worsen tensions between Hasidic summer visitors and local residents, who are mostly non-Jewish.

    “My big concern has been that we don’t unleash a kind of antisemitism,” she said.

    This summer’s battle may be the death knell for the Skver sect’s grand plans in Sullivan County. The July 9 oil spill resulted in Department of Environmental Conservation charges that together carry maximum fines of more than $100,000. The camp may face more charges, and possible fines, over the alleged violations detailed by the health department. And separately, the Skverers are on the hook for a tax bill of more than $100,000 for failing to pay hotel occupancy taxes in 2007 and 2008.

    Throughout, the Skverers have remained mostly silent. The attorney representing the Skver sect in its recent Sullivan County court dates, Perry Meltzer, said through his assistant that he does not speak to the media. Calls to New Square Deputy Mayor Israel Spitzer seeking comment on the plans for the Homowack site went unreturned. No public listings exist for Machne Bnos Square, the name of the girls’ camp. The only listed number for the Homowack Lodge has been disconnected.

    Schiller said he has not heard anything more about Kiryas Skver since the dedication ceremony, and he does not know what current plans are.

    Goodman, the local legislator, said she hasn’t seen any official plans for developing the site.

    “Whether they had plans, I think that has been rolled back because they have this dinosaur [the aging Homowack property] to deal with,” Goodman said. “Did they go into this with bad intentions? No, I think they just bit off more than they can chew.”


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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    I guess the local town will learn that Hasidim bring money along with the trouble. You can’t have our money and not us.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    This article clearly highlight the larger and longer term needs of Jewish institutions that are put at risk when short-term agendas of arrogant individuals have the effect of alienating the communities whose support we need for expansion and growth. Do the Skevr really believe they have helped their cause to obtain the zoning changes needed for the long term development pland by fighting this summer to keep the camp open? There are also spillover effects into other communities which see all jewish groups in black coats as part of a larger threat and don’t distinguish between Skvere, Satmar, Bobover or Belz.

    observer
    observer
    14 years ago

    Skver is a great place to be “FRIM” and insulated from the outside world. A lot of people dream that they can follow such a path. However, when it comes to the ‘laws of the land’ (that hosts them), their reputation is not so great (to say it mildly).
    I hope they learn from this fiasco how to interact with the local governments and others in a more civil manner.

    Yankel Finder
    Yankel Finder
    14 years ago

    As if there’s not enough anti-semitism in the world already….

    Don't Bite the hand that Feeds You
    Don't Bite the hand that Feeds You
    14 years ago

    The locals have to realize that the Chassidim who “visit” them, feed the entire economy of the area and also increase the value of their property because of the Laws of Supply and Demand.

    We are not only talking about taxes, which most Chassidc property owners, clients and visitors pay as Property tax and Sales tax every day in the town stores.

    It’s not only tax (which Skver is exempted) but the entire economy of most products (except kosher food) is made locally by the locals and purchased form the locals to enrich the locals.

    If not for the Chassidim and Summer Visitors, the locals would have relatively “Bubkes” for their yearly Parnasa.

    Finally lets not forget the local government agencies which make Millions of Dollars on Traffic and Parking Tickets on the backs of all the Chassidim and other frum Yidden who travel the area.

    This was admitted openly that these towns entire budget of millions of dollars comes only form the two month of Tickets they issue in the summer.

    Let them enjoy their Millions, ripping off the Chassidk and let them Shut Up and stop kvetching about how “unfortunate” they are “Nebech”, that we enrich them so much.

    ShatzMatz
    ShatzMatz
    14 years ago

    In hindsight, it doesnt seem to smart of Square to pick a fight over the sillly girl’s camp. They just jinxed their dream of setting up a village there.

    If I were Square, I would abandon the property. It is a white elephant. After the town has wallowed in it knee deep for a few years they will come back begging Square to do something with it.

    The Truth is...
    The Truth is...
    14 years ago

    The truth is that the whole issue is over taxes. The Homowack was a tax payer, and Skver is not. The camp passed inspection with flying colors before the summer. It was a few weeks later that the inspector came back and said “that I was explained by the authorities, how to deal with the camp”.
    Perhaps part of the issue is the fear of “the Hasidim”, some anti-semitism, and talk about zoning and “the master plan” – but the real truth is that we are talking money.
    Now, if these “goyishe kops” would only look to the future, as to what a small “shtetl” would add to their economy, they would bend over backwards to work with them to bring the project to fruition. But, alas the “goyishe kops” can not work with the “klein-kepildike” hasidim – so they are in the mess that they are in now. How sad.

    Ben
    Ben
    14 years ago

    “1000 boys who never heard of Michael Yarden” Big deal! I am sure there are 1000 black kids in Chicago who never heard of Skvere, so what?!!!

    sad
    sad
    14 years ago

    i am just sad that the hotel is no longer operating. i have many fond memories of being there as a teenager for various yom tovin

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    How do they expect to build a whole new town on a 450 acre site? The area probably requires at least 1/2 or 1 acre per home and maybe more. After considering room for roads, a shul, mikva, school, etc. at most there would be about 3 – 400 homes. If they are going to put in businesses so the residents can have a livelihood, there would be less room for houses and more zoning changes needed.

    PatrioticAmerican
    PatrioticAmerican
    14 years ago

    America is not OUR country. You have to abide by the laws and rules of this country, county and municipality. If you dont, you have to be willing to pay the consequences. If Skver wants to run things their own way, then be ready to pay the price.

    Shua Cohen
    Shua Cohen
    14 years ago

    > “The Skverers have long-term plans to build a new town on the 450-acre resort…[BUT]…this summer’s battle may be the death knell for the Skver sect’s grand plans in Sullivan County.”

    >> Will Skver — and the rest of us — see the Yad Hashem in this matter? Is the message of the Ribbono Shel Olam: “Enough already with your digging ever deeper into your America golus. Yidden, your love affair with the goldena medina must now come to an end. I am sending you signs of this everywhere. When will you get it!”

    investing millions in golus America at this time in our history is sheer folly. Perhaps that’s why this Homowack misadventure had to come to an end…because golus America, G-d Willing, is coming to an end.

    As Rabbi Lazer Brody wrote earlier this month: “I mentioned about the dark prospects in Obama’s America and the bleak future for Jews there…Has Jewish America totally lost its sense of smell? One can’t smell with one’s head in the ground…It’s time you flash that email to Nefesh B’Nefesh. Aliya from the USA is booming, and G-d willing, many more are on the way. Mister Obama is quickly teaching our brothers and sisters in the Diaspora that there’s no place like home, and home is here in the Holy Land of Emuna, Eretz Yisrael.”

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    its just the oppisite now we see that it is agood thing because we see how the other side is fighting tooth and nail like every holy thing comes on very tough and every non kedusha comes easley so get ready besides the economical efects for the beter look at the values of housing in monsey and around new square

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Actually, the town wants & promotes development to cover their budgets. The neighbors probably don’t. If the garbage stopped being picked up maybe they’d figure it out. No money, no honey.

    How About?
    How About?
    14 years ago

    All summer I could not understand why Skver refused to evacuate premises that were deemed UNSAFE. If my child was a camper there, I would have taken her home. All the rest – newspaper, letters, neighbors are being thrown into the cholent.
    How could they consciounably keep kids in an unsafe and/or unhealthy environment?

    Dag
    Dag
    14 years ago

    They don’t know Micheal Jordan? Well I guess he proves his own point.

    Shua Cohen
    Shua Cohen
    14 years ago

    The debate has shifted into one about how much Yidden contribute to the economy of Sullivan County…as if this is an excuse for ignoring local laws.

    With all due credit to Yitzchok Levine, I would like to quote from his first hand account of what he observed at the Homowack Lodge (Mr. Levine’s comment appeared on another Jewish news website). I hope this will put this thread back onto the REAL issue.

    “I had occasion to be at the old Homowack this July. When I walked through the main entrance I was shocked. Ceiling tiles were all over the place. When I tried to get to the shul from the lobby, I encountered water on the floor and damage due to neglect everywhere. Finally, I went around to the side and entered what was the shul. There was no running water and the bathrooms were not usable!

    I asked someone there what was going on. He replied, “This was a mistake.”

    It was not the Homowack that fell into disuse. It was its successor, the Spring Glen Hotel (which Skver named it) that fell into disuse. Skver is the one who seems to have let the Homowack deteriorate into what I can only describe as a disaster.”

    This, people, is the issue…not who does or does not shop at the local stores versus Walmart.

    pertcu
    pertcu
    14 years ago

    #43 is not beneath your dignity, its that you dont have a response

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    The authorities were right to shut the place down especially if there are health and safety violations in addition to the unpaid taxes. No excuses! Why should it be news that the Skverers moved out before the deadline and get sympathy- I’m sure they were warned numerous times before the full eviction / closing would have happened.

    I think what is news- is that they want to make this a new town and community. That would be something worthy to following up on.

    berel
    berel
    14 years ago

    #69 before 1933 ‘enlightened’ jews in germany ,like you, said basically the same thing

    Daniel
    Daniel
    13 years ago

    I think the Hasidim had noble thoughts, but unfortunately, outside of their own homes they just do not have that good a track record for public construction/architecture/maintenance. Some years ago I took a tour of the Lubavitch headquarters when Rabbi Schneerson was living. It was quite a sight, with hundreds of worshipers crowded around and in line to meet him.
    But the synagogue itself was completely ramshackle, and just plain dangerous. Yes, we can throw up our hands and say it is all up to Hashem…But one spark and the place would have gone up in flames and hundreds would have been killed.

    When the Hasidim start becoming construction workers instead of selling electronics and cameras, then they will be ready to build their own city.