New York – VIN News has confirmed that the Tzedakah organization Kollel Shomrei Hachomos has established a free loan gamach in Yerushalyaim in memory of Martin Grossman, whose execution by the state of Florida on February 16 for a crime he committed 25 years ago, caused a massive email campaign to Florida Governor Charlie Crist.
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Kollel Shomrei Hachomos has also arranged for Kaddish to be said and mishnayos to be learned for the entire year in memory of Martin Grossman.
May his soul live in Gan Eden forever, with Moshe Rabbeinu, and may your children have the zechut to reach the madreiga of kedusha that this zaddik had when he was niftar.
that’s a grate thng and a big mitzva, may his neshoma have a aliya!
But I think Purim is over, guys.
He did leave a child. She was given up for adoption. I pray she’ll never find out that her father was a killer.
What a nice thing, how about doing it here in NY?
Good idea,he needs zechusim in the next world.
Really sick fund-raising gimmick! It’s one thing to save a man’s life, and another to glamorize his memory. Sadly, some will be taken in by this silly campaign.
Disgusting.
Have people lost all sense of good taste and decency? Why is common sense such a depleted commodity in these days? Is there no honorable deceased Jew to honor with this gemach or are criminals our only role-models these days?
Imy’H Reb Meir Baal Hanes Zy’u Will Assist Him In Bais Din Shel Ma’aluh!
Oh, how Christian of us. We’re now naming our charities after murderers. How soon before we start a children’s clothing g’mach in honor of Yudi Kolko?
I think this is most appropiate. Martin A”H left behind no children so it is only right that this organization is saying Kaddish and learning for his Neshama.
What next, will they name a yeshiva after him to? He is a criminal, a murderer, since when do we exalt a murderer? Are they all deranged?
This is sick.
What about how the family of the person he killed feels. Seeing the name of their child’s murderer being tossed about like a martyr is sure to cause them pain and anguish.
How do we feel when we see a terrorist being welcomed as a hero by his sponsors. It pains and anguish us when it happens. Why are we doing this to others.
An effort, whether right or wrong, was made to stave off the death penalty, it was not successful, now maybe we should let this issue die. The guy did a really bad thing, whether you feel it was right or wrong that he should have gotten his punishment does not change what he did. This is not a case of discrimination. Let G-d be the one to judge him now and to decide his repentance. If you want to do something do it quietly without fanfare, without making him into a martyr. It will not offend the people whose lives he damaged, and it will probably end up being the bigger merit for him.
Considering that this ‘charity’ is headquartered in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, this nonsense is not surprising. But it is a disgrace nevertheless.
They should be boycotted.
P.S. Why don’t they start a fund in memmory of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg?
surely there are more honorable people to name a gemach for…
Even if they do say kaddish & learn Leiluy his neshomo (which I approve of) I dont think they should be shouting it from the roof tops.
It is clear to me that Martin Grossman had zechusim we don’t know about. We are blind people yet everyone thinks they know everything. Wake up call: we know nothing.
How dare they dirty the name of the Holy Tanah Rab Meir Baal Haneiss by associating their Tzedaka with a murderer???!!!
b’mokom sh’baal t’shuva omdim ain tzaddikim g’murim omdin.
its all about money
At this point he is for sure clear…as MISAH is MECHAPER..
Lets all be real here, Yes he did commit a horrible crime.
Now moving forward, He did regret.
We should not judge him.
G-D will.
He was a jew, and we are jewish, forgive him completely.
That is what the Torah teaches us.
No question asked.
I think that whoever thought of this is a frekin idiot. There are so many good and decent people that are sick or die for no reason who deserve such a zechus yet you name someting special like this for a murdere?
I think it’s gross beyond measure to set up anything in memory of a murderer.
Once again members of the frum community have gone out of their way to embarrass the rest of us. When will it stop?
Since when do Jews honor a murderer?
Despicable and sick. To honor a rotzayach like this is horrible.
“the zechut to reach the madreiga of kedusha that this zaddik had when he was niftar.”
Madreiga? Kedusha? Tzaddik? – So now I get it, to be a heiliger tzaddik I just need to murder someone and fell sorry for it. Forget that other path of mitzvos…..
SICK!!!
Stop romanticizing this man’s story. The baal teshuvah bit was purposely played up by his defense attorney and the Chabad rabbi as a last ditch effort to save him. Grossman sure did not look like a baal teshuvah and his last meal of treife chicken proved that. The Chabad rabbi went out of his way to help him put on tefillin and had him say “Shema” before his execution, which is noble. However, let’s not get carried away here. Most murderers on death row find religion in prison, whether through a rabbi, a priest or an imam.
I agree that this I’d not the way to go about it but if anyone wants to learn privately in his memory his neshomo could definitely use all the help it can get. Even if misa is mechaper, remember, according to his Rabbi Rabbi Katz, he never become frum even at the end (his last meal was a treif chicken sandwich from the jail canteen) so he never had the misa im tshuvah as far as mitzvos go.
It seems to be that the same people who are honoring Martin Grossman would never have him at their shabbos table, he would never be invited to share a chelek in their olam haze.
No one ever think to make a charitable organization in the honor and memory of a not frum yid who nevertheless gave charity and was a good person. no not for them, they werent extreme enough. But for Martin Grossman a convicted murderer…him we should honor.
well this is one tzedakah that I will refrain from donating to
Giving Tzedokoh is a very nice thing, but I’m not sure I would be comfortable giving to an organization that is in memory of a murderer.
So where’s the Kollel and charity fund raiser for David Pearl? Can anyone deny he deserved if far more then Grossman?
I would never contribute to something as despicable as this- this is something Jewish?It reminds me more of a gang honoring a thug!
this is gross, man
I think the kollel is just trying to capitalize on the Grossman story which seems to have mesmerized the charedi world. They are simply using him as a pitchman, albeit a dead one. They realize that this man has been canonized and made out to be a martyr/legend and they are milking his fame before people forget about him.
You know, I dont know about any of you, but one thing I will tell you, tomorrow first thing in the morning I am going to call this “charity” and let them have it! There are so many good, honest,decent, quiet yidden, out there that haven’t killed anyone and yet have been killed al kiddush Hashem and they have not been “honored”. There is something fishy about this! I hear dollar bills!!!
sick sick
They should be ashamed of themselves for doing this. Have frum organizations have no shame. I see they will do anything for a buck.
If you agree with this insanity, do not complain when Muslim honor there killers. Maybe they did redemption a millisecond before the bomb went off.
What to do something nice about the tragic event , collect money to honor Parks and make a Kidduch hashem.
This is a big chillul Hashem I wonder who’s idea this was.
I really hope this is a late purim joke
How is this at all different from the Arabs having parades and tents set up for people who murder Jews? That is disgusting and so is this. Think of this woman’s family! How callous can these people be?
Daniel Pearl was decapitated for being a Jew, yet we hear of no special learning on his behalf. The charedi community is insane.
Have we lost our minds? This animal was a murderer. The fact that he found religion while in prison has nothing to do with the heinous nature of the crime. What a horrible chilul hashem this is causing by naming a gmach in a killers name. Imagine what his family will feel when they see this. Our community is truly sick if we celebrate the defense of this murderer. He killed a police officer! That is all that needs to be said. Jews do not celebrate the memory of murderers. “Dina malchusa dina”
Press release now! But Jews treating him as a real brother yes! If it’s a brother whether he is a murderer or not you will go for him and try the best for him
what a shame that the gedolei Torah, who are most saintly,venerated and learned are not here to post their opinions.my…how far some of you are,,how i wish that the Skulener rebbe shlit”a would post an opinion to enlighten us.
Well, where should one begin? To explain why we went out to save him?or why we are memorializing him even if we should have saved him?
well, to be very brief,Aleph Institute has made it clear that there was a dire Mitzvah of Lo Saamod al dam rei’acho -“Thou shalt not stand idle on thy brother’s blood”.
1)basically in The Laws of the Torah, he was not liable for th death penalty(without going into detail)
2)according to the laws of the state of Florida he was not liable for the death penalty(again, without going into detail)
3)even after all religious concerns and brotherly love, we still acknowledged that a crime was comitted and punishment is warranted, but not this type which was disproportionate to the punishments usually administered for comparable crimes as this one
4)which Torah leader has stated NOT to advocate for him!? rav yitzchok tovia weiss,av beis din of yerushalayim and the skulener rebbe are good enough for me!
What a shame to go this low as a gimmic to get peoples money if they really mean good they should just say kaddish and shut up all this is,is another lowlife gimmic to raise funds for this charity who would never give a penny to a jew that’s not from their own…(Those that are familiar know what I am talking about…) Don’t try to make money off this poor guys sole let him rest in peace
to continuefrom where i left off:
and so are the Lakewood Roshei Yeshivos!rav chaim Epstein never signs any letter, but here, he went out of his way and I was told that it was very difficult for him to learn because of Martin!
to answer why we make a memorial out of him?
Because he was a brother.the best would be to learn what it means to be a yid.the sefer chofetz chaim would help alot with that!the tanya even more so.perhaps we don’t appreciate and sufficiently internalize what it means to be a yid.And that is that we are all brothers.and on a higher level we are all attached and part of each other as one entity.and on an even higher level, we are all fused together-we are each other.andon a higher level we are all princes and princesses,higher than that?children of G-d.Higher than that embedded in G-d – no exceptions!
The question is as to what extent do we perceive that and internalize it.
I ask aloud; about 25 years ago, he was a Jew who happened to once murder. Why are some here refering to him as a murderer who happened to be Jewish?Even after teshuvah?i presume that I am on an orthodox website and if so: why are we so eager to judge someone and be mekatreg(to spiritually prosecute)on someone who left the world with more ahavas yisroel and less hate(and murder) in his heart than most posters here.Who can guarantee that we will not need more mercy than him when THE DAY would come????
i think it is a little sick. this guy was a murderer and never regretted it. I am sure all of you would love a charitable fund set up for your kids killers as well??
moshe and 80;
nothing is obvious until you see the case or refute my arguments:
1)Charles brewer and thayne taylor lying at the directives of prosecutors to save their skin
2)30 out of 33 witnesses withheld
3)expert testimony withheld
4)not premeditated murder
if you have proof against all or some of the above – then great(maybe not in this case)
this story might illustrate why substantial attention was given to grossman:
a rebbe was trying to raise money for pidyon shvuyim.one person retorted ‘without ploni our town won’t be a town anymore?’
that night he died a horrible death through some freak accident
the family came afterwards to ask for forgiveness.the rebbe replied,”oh no, I was not upset personally, just when he told me that comment a thought kept on cropping up which no matter what, I could not repress:”and without this guy too, our town is not a town?”(and since a thought of a tzaddik is very powerful, things happen because of it for better or for worse)
in any case,,the moral of the story is that at the mere thought that ANY jewISH life is not important,one must immediately banish that mere notion.and here a bunch of people went out (as danger was clearly imminent)and declared that we will do what we can to save a life and DECLARE to the world in solidarity, and moreso for our fellow Jews and mainy to ourselves and establish its realization and that it is not something we just say,but something we actually believe
My.my what a bunch of “mah yofisnikehs” we have here all dancing in front of the poritz!
People, the man sat for twenty five years and was then executed.He showed remorse for his despicable act and paid the ultimate price.
Now, can we at least have a kaddish and mishnayos and something to give him a zechus?
If I’m not mistaken there is a medrash about a man who impregnated a woman on yom kippur and was put to death and later this son born from this union gave the father merit to get out of gehinom.A story eith Rabbi Akiva I think.
Whatever the case, stop trying to prove what bleading hearts you are.