London – WikiLeaks: 1 in 3 Muslim Students Back Killing for Islam

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    London – Around a third of young British Muslims favour killing in the name of Islam, according to a survey revealed by the WikiLeaks’ publication of U.S. diplomatic cables.

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    A survey of 600 Muslim students at 30 universities throughout Britain found that 32 per cent of Muslim respondents believed killing in the name of religion is justified.

    A U.S. diplomatic cable from January 2009 quoted a poll by the Centre for Social Cohesion as saying 54 per cent wanted a Muslim party to represent their world view in Parliament and 40 per cent want Muslims in the UK to be under Sharia law.

    The survey results, revealed by WikiLeaks’ release of thousands of U.S. diplomatic cables, suggests increasing radicalisation among Britain’s young Muslims.

    A further U.S. cable, dated February 5 2009, said reaching out to Britain’s Muslim community there was a ‘top priority’ for U.S. embassy staff.


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    Askupeh
    Askupeh
    13 years ago

    Imagine if a third of young Jews would favour killing in the name of Judaism, what the outcry would be. “Expel the Jews” would be the slogan. But if Muslims think that way then nobody cares; and if you say something you are called an Islamaphobe.

    Sam23
    Sam23
    13 years ago

    Wow I’m shocked.

    Abraham
    Abraham
    13 years ago

    Islam is NOT a radical religion.

    Liepa
    Liepa
    13 years ago

    The British allowed gazilliions of muslims to emigrate into the UK practically flooding the entire British Isles with them and are now paying a steep price for it. They gave these immigrants a slew of social services affording them not to work and conversely allowing them to spend their days at the local mosques and become radicalized.
    The consequences of these liberal policies of the British government have begun to show its true colors culminating with attacks on London’s underground on 7/11/05.
    England is still grappling with muslim extremists on an ongoing basis and have yet to gain the upper hand. Unfortunately, the British muslim population is growing by leaps and bounds especially when compared to the general British population having 8.4 children per family vs 1.5 children per UK family. They are fast becoming a force to be reckoned with and will one fine day tell the true Brits where to go.
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    FactsofLife
    FactsofLife
    13 years ago

    1/3 admit to justifying killing. Even more justify it.

    How many more justify supporting those that kill?

    ModernLakewoodGuy
    ModernLakewoodGuy
    13 years ago

    #2 why are you shocked? or was that sarcastic? There is nothing shocking about revlealing the truth about islam, that it is a religion of hate and they preach murder and violence towards anyone that is not of their faith

    Grumpy
    Grumpy
    13 years ago

    The religion of 2/3 peace.

    yaakov doe
    Member
    yaakov doe
    13 years ago

    I’m shocked! Does this mean that 2 out of 3 are against the killing or does it mean that they themselves wouldn’t do it? Isn’t it an obligation to participate in Jihad?

    Yaakov2
    Yaakov2
    13 years ago

    If you ask if they feel that Killing for Islam is justified then you get very “respectable” looking 2/3 who say no.

    But if you would ask those 2/3 if they justify other things like just HATE against anyone who is not muslim and even if you ask them if they would justfy doing other harm, less than killing to anyone who defies or insults islam, you would not find even 1 muslim who would disagree.

    Every Muslim rejoyced in the destruction of 9/11

    iYeedel
    iYeedel
    13 years ago

    Now you get it!

    But when O’reilly says on “The View” that “Muslims killed us on 9/11” the yentas get all freaked out.

    It’s just another sample of liberals, they just don’t understand adult language.

    Anti-Zionist
    Anti-Zionist
    13 years ago

    This “revelation” is a exaggerated lie, created by some right-wing British journalists two years ago. There was an article about in the Guardian today.

    It’s very easy to twist this sort of statistics. The actual question was:

    “Is it ever justifiable to kill in the name of religion?”
    Yes, in order to preserve and promote that religion – 4%
    Yes, but only if that religion is under attack – 28%

    Ask the frum Jews, if they think that someone who breaks Shabbes deserves, in theory, death by stoning, and you can claim that 90% Jews back killing in the name of Judaism. But that would be a twisted lie, wouldn’t it?

    Insha’Allah, as the Rambam used to say in his original Arabic sforim, Jews and Muslims will restore their millenium-old tradition of mutual respect and friendship, instead of listening to stupid nationalist propaganda.

    13 years ago

    I don’t think the outcome would be any different/better if they would have the same poll here in the US of A

    13 years ago

    Before you all get into a frenzy, as others have said as well, you must consider the source and the “news” outlet that printed it. One glance at the websites reporting this story will show you that they have an anti-arab agenda. I am disappointed in VIN for publishing a story from such unreliable sources.

    Liepa
    Liepa
    13 years ago

    Bottom line is muslims glorify death, Jews glorify life. Enough said.

    begfx2
    begfx2
    13 years ago

    Reply to #5
    JOKE! JOKE! JOKE! can’t you read betwen the lines?

    kollelfaker
    kollelfaker
    13 years ago

    #14 you are part of the problem as more and more revelations about the peaceful Muslims come out it is not a few but a large minority the problem that the rest dont say a thing or help to stop it IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF SOLUTION THEN YOUI ARE THE PROBLEM

    13 years ago

    I don’t see what is so shocking. The longest and bloodiest wars in history were almost always “Holy Wars”.

    Secular
    Secular
    13 years ago

    …Agression against Jews because it may be viewed as revolution against the host country, nothing to do with living in Eretz israel. Furthermore, even if Al-fayumi held the aforementioned as fact, the RambaM certainly repudiates it in Igeeres Teiman with his clear and concise explanation of the prerequisite for Nevuah. He clearly does NOT pasken like the Gemara in Kesubos:

    1) The RambaM does not mention anything about going up to eretz israel, he just advises against incitement of the Gentiles.
    2) He never paskens that in the Mishne Torah, his book of pesak Not once is Shalosh Shvuos mentioned in the Mishne Torah. And he, in fact, encourages people to live in Eretz Israel….
    3) The RambaM’s view of Jewish monarchy/Moshiach requires; first jewish sovereignty in Eretz Israel and a Jewish government. Hilchos Sanhedrin/Melachim

    Unfortunately, The Satmar Rav had an opinion, (Da’as Yachid) and he sought to validate that opinion with the Rishonim. He was at a Loss as far as the RambaM and the RambaN were concerned, so he grabed on to a tangential reference in Igeres Teiman which is not Pesak, not a D’rabanan only ‘Derech Drush’…

    Secular
    Secular
    13 years ago

    In addition in Igeres Teiman he speaks quite openly about his dislike for the ‘religion of darkness’ he certainly mentiones his dislike for Muhamed call him the Pasul etc.
    In Mishne Torah as well, he speaks about the ‘Ishmaeli’ and he sums up arab/muslim culture as those who eat and drink and engage in… Hilchos Deos/Teshuva/Melachim. In the More Nevuchim he echoes the sentiment in book 1 chapter2.

    To be fair, the RambaM believes that Righteous Gentiles have a share in the world to come but only if they adhere to the Noahide laws. Anytime the RambaM uses the word Goy (older editions Akum) it means any goy and they are Oved Avoda Zara. When intended the RambaM uses the word Ben Noach i.e. Hilchos: Issurei Biah, Hilchos Melachim.

    The RambaM in various responsa (Sheilat edition) writes specifically, that although christians are pagans because of the doctrine of the trinity, and muslims are ‘true monotheists’ they are still considered Minim because they distort the text ‘Nusach’ of the Torah, or they believe the laws are no longer applicable.

    Amazing to see an ‘Anti-Zionist’ quoting Marc Shapiro, did you read his work on Kastner??

    as far as the Meiri….