Israel – Chief Military Rabbi: ‘IAF Rabbi Should be Dismissed from Military’

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    The Chief Rabbi of the Israeli Air Force, Rabbi Moshe Ravad, announced that he would be resigning from the Shachar program for enlistment of hareidi-religious men to the IDF, which he has accompanied since its inception because they planned to inegrated women istructors. Jan 3 2012. Photo by Gideon Markowicz/Flash90Israel – IDF Chief Rabbi Brig.-Gen. Rafi Peretz on Wednesday recommended the firing of Israel Air Force Chief Rabbi Lt.-Col.

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    Moshe Ravad for publicly criticizing the army protocol obligating religious soldiers to attend ceremonies that feature women’s singing.

    Peretz said Ravad had overstepped his authority with conduct unsuitable for an officer, and called upon IAF Commander Maj.-Gen. Ido Nehushtan to fire and replace him.

    On Tuesday, Ravad resigned from the “Shahar” program – aimed at integrating haredi men into the army while allowing them to maintain their ultra- Orthodox lifestyle – due to claims of possible changes to the terms of service that enable soldiers to maintain a strict level of observance.

    Relations between the army and religious soldiers have been strained following the ruling by Chief of Staff Lt.- Gen. Benny Gantz on Monday obligating every soldier to attend all official army ceremonies, even if they include women singing, which observant soldiers object to on the basis of religious law.

    Soldiers may, however, request exemptions from informal army events featuring women singing or dancing.

    In a letter, Ravad claimed that the IDF Manpower Directorate was reviewing the terms of service for the Shahar program.

    “In the last draft of the new terms of service, I saw that the articles designed to preserve the piety of the soldiers had been removed, as well as the paragraph designed to provide exemptions for activities which would negatively affect their piety,” Ravad wrote.

    Ravad acknowledged that the new terms of service had not been finalized, but stated he could not continue working for the program’s administration as rabbi and adviser “in the current circumstances.”

    The one-and-a-half to two-year Shahar track provides haredi soldiers with technical training that both qualifies them for army positions and helps them find employment after their service is completed.

    In 2011, 500 soldiers entered the program, with approximately 800 in active service. In total, 2,000 haredi soldiers have enlisted in the Shahar framework in the past four years.

    Ravad was instrumental in helping set up the program and drafting the terms under which the haredi soldiers would serve.

    MK Yohanan Plesner (Kadima) spoke out against Ravad, rejecting his claims and saying his actions would ultimately harm the program.

    “With his public statements, Rabbi Ravad acted like a politician and endangered the continued development of the Shahar program, which constitutes the spear-heading of [efforts] to integrate the ultra-Orthodox into the army and the workforce,” Plesner said on Wednesday.

    Plesner – chairman of the Knesset working group for implementation of the Tal Law that is designed to increase the proportion of ultra-Orthodox soldiers – earlier criticized Ravad’s actions as “irresponsible” and denied that any changes to program terms of service were being considered.

    “I have not found any reference at all to Rabbi Ravad’s claims regarding any changes to the terms of the Shahar program,” Plesner said. “Experience shows us that haredim who enlist in the Shahar program are still haredi when they leave the program, and this controversy which Rabbi Ravad has instigated is unnecessary.”

    According to the IDF Spokesman’s Office, Ravad is scheduled to step down as IAF chief rabbi in the summer of 2012, but had not submitted a request to end his tenure as IAF chief rabbi or his military service.

    Before Peretz issued his recommendation, several soldiers from the Shahar program spoke out in support of Rabbi Ravad’s position.

    “Rabbi Ravad has shown us the way. If he has done it, we will all do it – everyone will find a way to leave because the army has betrayed us,” said one Shahar soldier in an interview on Radio Kol Hai on Tuesday night.

    The soldier continued: “They explicitly promised all soldiers in Shahar when we were drafted that we wouldn’t need to do night patrols, we wouldn’t need to attend mixed [gender] events, we wouldn’t need to attend lectures given by women – and at the moment they’re infringing all these promises.”

    On Tuesday night, IDF Manpower Directorate head Maj.-Gen. Orna Barbivai spoke to Shahar soldiers at a celebratory event for the program, to which the soldier objected.

    “We were studying in yeshiva and the army came and convinced us that we wouldn’t need to go against any of our values or rabbinic instructions,” he stated. “Now, we feel hated – that the army doesn’t want us, and is neglecting its promises.”

    The soldier added that the new ruling making all official army ceremonies obligatory would lead to religious soldiers disobeying orders.

    “We are Orthodox soldiers, not Reform, and we will fulfill that which Jewish law prescribes,” he said. “There’s no question that all 2,000 Shahar soldiers would rather sit in jail than listen to women sing.

    “If we had known that they wouldn’t keep their promises, we would never have enlisted. And they’ll see the results of this in the next draft; there will be zero haredi soldiers enlisting in the army if they don’t want us,” he continued.

    Jewish law generally prohibits men from listening to women sing, although rabbinic authorities have ruled that leniencies can be applied for recorded music and radio broadcasts.

    According to the religious freedom lobbying group Hiddush, approximately 90 percent of former Shahar soldiers are now employed because of the professional training they received in the army. Hiddush said on Wednesday that the program must not be endangered and that is was vital for an agreement on the problems which have arisen to be reached.

    At Tuesday’s Shahar celebration, IDF Chief Rabbi Peretz told the gathered soldiers that it is important to the army that their service isn’t jeopardized.

    “I’m working as hard as possible to keep your world from being harmed.

    The studying, Jewish law, the home, the laws of modesty – we will always take care of these issues,” Peretz said.

    Content is provided courtesy of the Jerusalem Post


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    nphatti
    nphatti
    12 years ago

    This sounds so much like old fashioned chareidi bashing. What a magnificent level of spirituality. Not to listen to women sing or watch them perform in public. These people are working on improving their moral level and should be encouraged.
    Only debased folk, who have no concept of what morality is anymore could want to force these young virile men to have lewd thoughts.
    We have forgotten that the real mighty are those that conquer their evil inclination.

    nphatti
    nphatti
    12 years ago

    IDF Chief Rabbi Brig.-Gen. Rafi Peretz has forgotten that he is responsible for the moral and spiritual wellbeing of the IDF soldiers. How dare he tell them they have to go against halacha. There is no mitzva to have ladies singing in public.
    Would he ask the soldiers to eat pork if it was erved at an official IDF banquet? No he would fight not to have pork served. Why is the entertainment menu less important than the kitchen one.

    Reb Yid
    Reb Yid
    12 years ago

    I guess there’s no freedom of speech in the Army, either. Note that he wasn’t disobeying any order, he was just resigning from a program and giving the reasons why he didn’t like what was going on.

    sholkramer
    sholkramer
    12 years ago

    Mr peretz I cant ,call u rabbi because you r fired from being an orthodox rabbi

    sechelyoshor
    sechelyoshor
    12 years ago

    Ravad is a brave man! How many of us would walk away from a serious job because of his principles. It is so sad that the soliers who enlisted are being betrayed like this. There are those in powerful positions who would like to balme chareidim for NOT joining the army and then blame them when the DO join.

    Unfortunately, the crazies in Beit Shemes have created the atmosphere that encourages this injustice. And what’s so infuriating is that they probably know it and proud that they have caused this! After all, the army the “enemy.” The Zionist state can only bring about evil.” “We warned you about those reshoim, NOW do you believe us?”

    Barsechel
    Barsechel
    12 years ago

    The Army better make things right fast otherwise there will be a very bad backlash seems to me that the Chareidim are right in that the Chilonim are still not respecting the Chareidi Rights and promises made to them
    Yoiu cant have it both ways if promises weremade and broken then someone has to pay.
    Rabbi Ravad is a man of honor whereas Rabbi Peretz is a politician.

    mikeetg
    mikeetg
    12 years ago

    The left like to lump together spitting on 8 year old girls and having to listen to female singing, putting it on an equal moral table to alienate the frum. They show their true agenda all along. They do not care if no frum people are in the army. They just want to be rid of judaism.

    Babishka
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    Babishka
    12 years ago

    It seems to me that both sides should be able to compromise a little bit. It makes the IDF look frivolous for insisting on mandatory attendance at talent shows. The purpose of the IDF is to guard the citizens and guests of the state of Israel, not to launch somebody’s show business career. On the other hand, if a girl is just singing the national anthem, just shut up and sit down. How many men get up and walk out when a girl is singing the national anthem at a sports event?

    itchemeir
    itchemeir
    12 years ago

    R. PERETZ IS VERY WRONG and R. Ravad is 100% right. The IDF goes looking for chareidim to join and then breaks their promises to them and puts them into terrible situations. CLEAN WOMEN’S RESTROOMS?? what chutzpah! the officer who gave that order should be brought up on charges or dismissed from the army!

    The-Macher
    The-Macher
    12 years ago

    Rav Ravad shlit”a should be promoted to the position presently held by Rafi Peretz, and Rafi Peretz should be assigned to hmmm…cleaning women’s restrooms for a year before he is dishonorably discharged altogether.

    12 years ago

    He needs to go on a diet, he is unfit physically to be an IAF employee.