Disinfectant Riff Is Latest Of Many Trump Science Clashes

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FILE - In this Aug. 21, 2017, file photo, President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump wear protective glasses as they view the solar eclipse at the White House in Washington. Trump's comment about injecting disinfectant to fight coronavirus is just the latest in a long list of comments and actions that run contrary to mainstream science. He's gone against scientific and medical advice by staring at an eclipse without protection, calling climate change a hoax and saying wind turbines cause cancer. (AP Photo/Andrew Harnik, File)

WASHINGTON (AP) — What President Donald Trump says and does often flies in the face of mainstream science. Coronavirus and the idea of injecting disinfectants is only the latest episode.

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When a rare solar eclipse happened in 2017, astronomers and eye doctors repeatedly warned people not to stare directly at the sun without protection. Photos show Trump looked anyway. He later donned protective glasses.

For decades, scientists have called climate change a pressing issue, pointing to data, physics and chemistry. Trump regularly called it a hoax until recently. He also claims that noise from wind turbines — which he refers to as windmills — causes cancer, which is not accurate. He’s also claimed that exercise will deplete the finite amount of energy a body has, while doctors tell people that exercise is critical to good health.

When Trump wanted to defend his warning that Alabama was threatened by Hurricane Dorian last year, he displayed an official weather map that had been altered with a marker to extend the danger areas. Alabama National Weather Service meteorologists were chastised by their agency chief when they issued tweets to reassure worried residents that they were not in the path of the hurricane.

On Thursday, Trump raised the idea of injections of disinfectant to fight the coronavirus, which health officials warned would be dangerous. The president later claimed he was being sarcastic, although the transcript of his remarks suggests otherwise. Trump also suggested ultraviolet light, even internal light, could be a possible preventative measure, contrary to scientific advice.

On Friday, as the recorded U.S. death toll passed the 50,000 mark, the Food and Drug Administration issued an alert about the dangers of using a malaria drug that Trump has repeatedly promoted for coronavirus patients.

Asked what kind of grade he’d give Trump on science, M. Granger Morgan, a Carnegie Mellon University engineering and policy professor who has advised Democratic and Republican administrations, answered with a quick “F.”

“When he starts to air things like that (injection), it’s definitely a danger to the public because some people might actually do that,” said Nobel Prize-winning physicist Steven Chu, who was energy secretary in the Obama administration. “This isn’t science. This is something else.”

“Our president certainly has high confidence in his beliefs,” said Chu, chairman of the board of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the world’s largest general scientific society. “Scientists always test their beliefs all the time. That’s part of the fabric of science.”

Trump seems to put science, medicine and controlled studies on equal footing with rumor and anecdotes, said Sudip Parikh, a biochemist who is chief executive officer of AAAS.

Mixing those two up when talking to the public is “terrible for communication,” Parikh said. It muddles and confuses the public, he said.

White House spokesman Judd Deere said “any suggestion that the president does not value scientific data or the important work of scientists throughout his time in office is patently false.” Deere pointed to “data-driven” decisions on the virus, such as limiting travel from highly infected areas, expediting vaccine development and issuing social distancing guidance to slow the spread of the virus.

Deere pointed to Trump saying on Thursday, “My administration has partnered with leading technology companies and scientific journals to create a database of 52,000 scholarly articles on the virus that can be analyzed by artificial intelligence.”

Presidents of both parties often put politics before science, and Trump is not unusual there, Morgan said. But this administration has regularly contradicted science and doctors.

“We’ve seen daily statements that run counter to reality, and science is about physical reality,” Morgan said. “Science matters.”

Both Morgan and Chu said Thursday’s ultraviolet and disinfectant comments could end up hurting people who don’t listen to doctors. They pointed to a case in Arizona where a couple misinterpreted Trump’s promotion of the malaria drug and wrongly used related chemicals; one of them died. Friday’s FDA warning was issued because of reports of dangerous side effects and deaths from the use of the malaria drugs in test treatments.

Gretchen Goldman, research director for the Union of Concerned Scientists’ Center for Science and Democracy, said the actions of Trump and his administration “have ignored science, censored science, manipulated science across agencies.”

“It’s a different beef than we’ve seen in past administrations,” Goldman said. “This administration, there’s a lot of disinterest and disrespect for science and the process.”

Her advocacy group listed 130 “attacks on science.”

Goldman published a survey this week in the peer-reviewed science journal PLOS One that she and colleagues made of 3,700 federal scientists. Half of them said political interests hinder their agencies from making science-based decisions. One in five reported political interference or censorship of some kind either from political appointees in their own agency or in the White House.

Goldman said the survey, conducted in 2018 before the coronavirus outbreak, found that the highest level of scientists claiming White House interference was in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Meteorologist Ryan Maue, a conservative scholar, said that on policy, he and other conservatives like Trump’s agenda of deregulation, including pulling out of the United Nations’ Paris climate agreement. He pointed to increased funding of NASA and its return to the moon mission as pro-science, and added that the weather service is improving its forecast models.

But when it comes to communicating science, Trump “is a mess,” Maue said. He’s trying to be funny and folksy “and it doesn’t work and the media is eating that stuff up alive. And I think that’s fair.”


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Naf
Naf
4 years ago

This is one of the reasons why our drum heimishe olem loves Trump so much he is ignorant of science and so are we we give equal weight to buba meisas and rumors as we do to scientific studies and evidence-based facts. There is a cost to all of this and it’s paid in lives.

But hey he got the rubashkin out of jail we should be thankful. Never mind the dead and the many almonos and yesomim

Naf
Naf
4 years ago

This is one of the reasons why our Frum heimishe olem loves Trump so much he is ignorant of science and so are

We we give equal weight to buba meisas and rumors as we do to scientific studies and evidence-based facts. There is a cost to all of this and it’s paid in lives.

But hey he got the rubashkin out of jail we should be thankful. Never mind the dead and the many almonos and yesomim

Annomiaus
Annomiaus
4 years ago

Vin news dosen’t miss a day without a negative article from A P

Liberal thinker
Liberal thinker
4 years ago

Donald Trump is a idiot

Boris
Boris
4 years ago

Fake news, he made a joke, calm down you anti American liberals

Aleph
Aleph
4 years ago

Trumpf was dead serious. If you don’t know the diff you are a yutz.

Mark Levin
Mark Levin
4 years ago

Clearly we see you people get your news from FakeNews CNN and FakeNews msLSD.

I would suggest everyone goes back to the original videos and watch them very very very very very well. I also founded quite amazing at some idiot in this new story mentioned something about the hurricane. Well, that was fake news too.

bookshelf
bookshelf
4 years ago

what a lot of idiots and all the sick retarded democrats don’t realize , is that this is a case of ” Niba V’loa Yudah Mah Sh’niba ” .. Trump was alluding to a prophecy without fully knowing it . The sick corona virus is called “Corona ” because it looks like a Crown of a King . But this sick Corona king , will only reign for a short while , before the true KING OF KINGS , Hakodosh Boruch Hu himself will soon wipe away this sick Corona king ,with the arrival of King Moshiach , just like HKBHu wiped away SICK eisav , lavan , paroah , Haman , Amalek, titus , nevuchadnetzer , hiltler , stalin and all the worldy reshaim Yimach Sh’mom V’zichrom forever and ever. This is what Trump was meant and this is what he was alluding to that Ha-shem will soon cause some reverse anti-attack within each and everyone of us that will completely turn this whole thing around as an open attack on corona itself , to eradicate it nullify it and smash it to smith-o-renes and worse , just as we destroy chometz before pesach and the way Queen Esther got sick achashvarosh to sign a decree that on the the 14th and 15th of Adar , all the jews have a command to destroy all the goyim of shushan . We all have this power buried within each of us , and we will soon win over , destroy and obliterate corona and all Amalek ,Eisavs ,Hamans etc. and all sick retarded democrats forever and ever just like Fat bowling ball freak of nature Kim Jong Um is now DEAD !!!!!!!

bookshelf
bookshelf
4 years ago

The way we are going to kill corona is thru not ever talking during all parts of davening when it’s forbidden to talk , starting from the present as most of us are forced to daven b’y’chidus and certainly when we get back into our respective shuls . Anyone who doesn’t see this clear Midah k’neged Midah , has got to be blind and DUMB !!!!

bostoncreampie
bostoncreampie
4 years ago

likewise super fantastic , I hope and pray that everyone internalizes your thoughts and ideas into their thick skulls . …I’d just like to add, that having A.D.D. is not a heter to talk during davening ,just because someone was diagnosed by their doctor as having A.D.D. . All the Yukels who have A.D.D. have the power within themselves to control themselves during all davenings to keep their faces in their siddurim and to daven the words of shachris mincha maariv musaf etc straight with no foreign interuptions. And they do possess the inner power to refrain from talking and walking to and fro during chazaratz hashatz ,Kaddish in it’s entirety whether Kaddish Shaleim , Chatzi Kaddish or Kaddish De’rabonin , Krias Hatorah , and the brochos before and after each aliyah , and the Haftorah with it’s Berochos both before and after . Also on friday nights , after finishing shmoneh esrei b’lachash , a person must not talk until after berochos m’ein sheva and all Kadeishim have been completely said . There is plenty of time after davening is over both day and night to talk and blurt out all the so-called vitally important things that some of us feel need to be said .