8 Reasons Why Some in the Hareidi Community Ignore Guidelines

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By Rabbi Yair Hoffman for 5tjt.com

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A number of people aren’t too happy with some members of the Hareidi Jewish community these days.  The reason is that they appear to be throwing all logic out the window in terms of flouting Covid guidelines. The reaction should be to ask three questions:

Why are they doing it? How can we understand the mindset?  And most importantly, how best can it be addressed?

BACK TO 1846

To understand them, we need to travel back to 1846, to Vienna General Hospital’s Maternity Ward.  Vienna General Hospital was a center of medical research at the time and housed the Viennese Medical School.  In the Maternity Ward, numerous women were dying of Puerperal group A streptococcal infections.  But no one knew why.

But then a young Hungarian doctor, Ignaz Semmelweis, eventually discovered why.  The doctors were not washing their hands properly.  He recommended that they wash their hands with a disinfectant – chlorine, and voila – the dying stopped.

The other doctors were not happy with Semmelweis.  His theory pretty much implicated them as the culprits.  And what happened?  The doctors stopped using the Chlorine and they got Semmelweis fired.

Surprisingly, the situation hasn’t quite resolved in close to 175 years.  According to the CDC, improper handwashing is the biggest source of hospital borne infections.  One hundred thousand people die each year because of hospital borne infections.  Why don’t nurses and other hospital staff listen – including doctors?

The reasons are a combination of factors.

  • Firstly, the idea of invisible germs being on our hands is naturally counter-intuitive, as is the idea of having to wear masks and socially distance.
  • Secondly, both are a pain to properly observe. Washing hands properly when working in a hospital setting requires some 200 washings in an eight-hour shift.  Not attending weddings or funerals is very difficult for people as well.
  • Thirdly, there is the idea of “It’s only the other guy who gets it, not me.”
  • Fourthly, there is the, “How dare you blame us!” factor – which can cause an opposite reaction.
  • Finally, there is the distrust factor. Nurses, believe it or not, often do not trust doctors.  And Hareidim do not trust medical authorities.

All of these five factors combine to create some serious non-compliance among a number of people in both of these communities – the medical community in terms of hand-washing and the Hareidi community in social distancing and mask wearing.

There are three additional factors that apply to the Hareidi-Covid response as well.

  • The first is that many assume that they already got COVID and are immune.
  • The second is the perception that the secular medical authorities don’t know what they are doing anyway. Yes masks. No masks. There is no clear unified message.
  • Finally, the third factor is the need for self-autonomy. “We do not want you messing with our business, because invariably you will overreach and affect what is crucially important to us.

There is one difference:  There is also an underlying antipathy that the Hareidi community faces, whereas the other one does not.   As a community, we get our jollies pointing out the faults of those who are more religious than us.  That’s why Halloween parties will often feature pregnant nuns.  That’s why we have memes comparing poppy seed cakes to Hareidi funerals and challenging others whether they can distinguish between the two.

The hate is so palpable that if one did a simple “search and replace” where one exchanges Hareidi with black people – on an article discussing Hareidim – it looks straight Ku Klux Klan literature.

What needs to be done is to put our collective heads together to figure out how best to counteract these eight factors in order to save lives and not cause further alienation between the Torah community and others around us.   The manner in which businesses deal with these issues is instructive.

I recall some thirty years ago, people in Monsey were taking the phones off the hook every Erev Shabbos.  This caused great interruptions to the phone company.  How did they deal with it?  They took out ads in Yiddish explaining possible alternatives.

A similar approach could help save lives here as well.  What needs to be done is to get some creative people together who are aware of the reasons for non-compliance.  They should try to figure out strategies in which to approach the problem.  In this way we can get to saving lives and stopping the internal bickering.

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Jer
Jer
3 years ago

Here’s the thing: Most of us live in golus and some of us have become too comfortable with flouting the goyish laws because we could always keep our heads low and get away with it. Now, with social media and the internet, our communities are no longer small enclaves but are being watched by the whole world. As history has shown, if we keep on acting like we are better than everyone else it will end in tragedy.

Last edited 3 years ago by Jer
Yossel
Yossel
3 years ago

The truth is something we don’t want to hear nor acknowledge. Yes we will do everything to help another, just as long as it does not effect my freedom. Once we have to restrict ourselves we become chachmim and are willing to kill people to keep our weddings, simchas Torahs, funerals etc. We have a lot to work on – Nebach

e.g.
e.g.
3 years ago

Why do you think nurses mistrust doctors??? Bottom line is people are dying, First they came for the elderly, I was not elderly so I ignored. Then they came for the overweight, diabetic, and people with underlying health problems, I was healthy so I ignored. Then they came for the healthy adults , young adults and I ignored, Then they came for the children, I sighed and ignored out of habit. Then they came for the pregnant mothers, I opened my tehillim but ignored, Now they are coming for the infants. HOW CAN WE IGNOR?? For a community who is charged with UBACHARTA BACHAYIM, AL TAAMOD AL DAM RAYECHA, VEAHAVTA LERAYACHA KAMOCHA etc, Can we please wake up and start following solid covid precautions?

ah yid
ah yid
3 years ago

Rabbi Hoffman I’m surprised at the question. Why do people overeat? Why do young people begin smoking? Why do people drink and drive, text and drive? Why do people speed? Why do people do stupid things? Why don’t people in our community wear masks? Why do people in our community ignore the rules? Why do people talk during davening or krias hatorah? I could keep asking more such questions but I’ll stop here.
Oh the answer is simple. If someone would see his body deteriorating as he overate. If someone was a navi and saw the consequences of his actions my questions would be moot. People tend to think they’re invisible, People justify their actions.

Heywood Jeblome
Heywood Jeblome
3 years ago

I am tired of hearing “we are different. We can’t social distance. We must have large gatherings etc etc.” These are SELFISH” excuses. I suppose we should just ignore the news story that reports that “ UK Haredi have one of the highest Covid rates in the whole world.” Is this acceptable? Our community must do everything possible to avoid being murderers! No more selfish excuses!

Chona Gewirtz
Chona Gewirtz
3 years ago

Haredim do trust medical authorities, but perhaps not the same ones.

Robert
Robert
3 years ago

Perhaps we should ask the charedim themselves why they act the way they do. I am sure they can speak for themselves- I would like to hear their point of view on this matter.

anonymous
anonymous
3 years ago

whatever happened to dinei malcuso dinei? the law of the land must be obeyed. unless, of course, it goes against jewish law. what jewish law does wearing a mask go against. the answer: none. and i hate to say it, but soooo many rabbis have died recently because their group dont listen to the doctors. shame on them. i repeat, shame on them. made
G-d protect us all from these frum people who dont follow the laws of the land, when it doesnt go against halacha
again, shame on them, shame on them

Anon
Anon
3 years ago

They live in a world of fantasy
Just look at reality
Just the next article in vin
https://vinnews.com/2021/02/03/wisconsin-mother-meets-baby-delivered-during-covid-19-coma/
Wake up and smell the coffee

Hi there
Hi there
3 years ago

If you aim to reach the Charedi populace, you have to go to through the Gedolim. If the Gedolim will instruct (not recommend) people to wear masks – and I mean the big Gedolim like Reb Chaim Kanievski and the Rebbes of each kehilla – then you will be well on the way to achieving your objective. But I’m not sure it will be so easy to do that. Perhaps there’s a reason that most of the Gedolim don’t instruct people to wear masks. Maybe they know better than us. Maybe they think like the Tchernobiler Rebbe apparently said: Rather say an extra Kapitel of Tehillim in order to be mekayim Venishmartem Meod Lenafshoisaychem than wear a mask. And before you all start explaining why it is the correct thing to wear masks and why it is 100% necessary, let me just point out that I’m not saying it isn’t. All I’m saying is, that to get Charedim to wear masks, you will have to persuade the Gedolim that it is the correct thing to do from all perspectives.

Pimpernuter
Pimpernuter
3 years ago

Chazal tell us
או חברותא או מיתותא
Sitting isolated is just like death anyway….
(I’m kidding of course)

Seichel
Seichel
3 years ago

Or the reason is because we believe in god and we’ve seen all this mask social distance does not help (just look at Israel) and therefore it’s not hishtadlus just plain old I am in charge kefirah

KShomron
KShomron
3 years ago

I’m not an anthropologist, but I think you need to look at the different “Hareidi” communities separately. The Hasidic and Litvish communities have their own Rules of Conduct (and misconduct) and while the Litvish realize they’re living in 2021 our Hasidic brothers like to pretend they’re “back in 1846”.  The Hasidic courts also frown on any inflow of “general” or “secular” information to their followers because of the loss of control and possible independent thinking that such knowledge might R”L lead to.
But what’s also fascinating to me, is that the old (actually new) battle cry of needing to follow Daas Torah do or die seems to be another victim of COVID. If a Gadol, even “your” Gadol, says you need to listen to the regulations of the Ministry of Health, you don’t really have to listen to him. If your RY tells you not to go to a demonstration, you don’t necessarily have to adhere to his words.  Maybe because we learnt that behind every great Daas Torah is a Yanky Kanievsky pulling the strings.

147
147
3 years ago

Buy them a face mask with some picture which they shall revere such their Rebbe or a Sepher Torah, and that should make it much harder for them to wriggle out of excuses for not wearing face masks.

A Sensible Activist
A Sensible Activist
3 years ago

How about the fact that the whole concept of wearing a mask and keeping far apart from others is antithetical to yiddishkeit? (not to mention normal and essential social and economic development). And that the risk/reward offset does not justify the oppressive government edicts based on political and financially motivated gain through guidelines intended to instill fear and exert control over the populace. The science and the math don’t add up. And the Chareidim are not willing to actively destroy their community and culture over propagated fear and possible consequences (health wise or otherwise).

And to people who subscribe to the FACT that Hashem is the ‘Rofeh Cholim’, and even that statement is preceded by the FACT that he is the ‘Chonen HaDaas’. Their intellect, reasoning and context tells them that if you take your mask off for long enough, you can actually smell the fishy. And it’s very fishy.
So maybe these people are on to something…

Lebidik Yankel
Lebidik Yankel
3 years ago

Rabbi Hoffman made a point, and is asking for creative solutions. He did not invite hectoring and lecturing. Please, folks.
I propose that we wear scarves instead of masks. And it should come from within our lines of authority – Rabbis, community leaders – not from without. Perhaps the change of wearing scarves will be enough to push it into happening.