Why the “I Love Colorado” Shot Glass is the Best Choice for the 4 Cups of Wine for Many

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    by Rabbi Yair Hoffman for 5tjt.com

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    Yes, people are going to think it is strange, but there are a number of people that should not necessarily be drinking large shiurim of wine.  According to the practical and halachic research done by this author, this glass is the way to go.

    There is a new shiur that is quite rapidly taking hold in Eretz Yisroel and elsewhere.  Poskim across many spectrums of Klal Yisroel are encouraging anyone who is recommended to avoid wine consumption by their doctor to adopt this new standard.

    What is the exact shiur?

    It seems that the shiur of a reviis according to Rav Azriel Auerbach shlita, and Rav Ovadiah Yoseph zt”l, and many others is that it is 75  mL.  This is equivalent to 2.54 ounces. This is based upon the discovery that the Dirham upon which the Rambam based his shiur is smaller than we had previously thought.  Practically speaking, the only glass that this author found is the aforementioned 2.6 ounce “I Love Colorado” shot glass imported by Paykoc Imports in Colorado.  Wine is preferable to grape juice l’halacha.

    (a reader pointed out that this is also available – DECOLUSH 75mL (2.5 Ounce) Stainless Steel Espresso Cups – 4 Pack Double Wall Insulated Cups Demitasse Cups Coffee Cup For Drinking, Drinking Coffee, Drinking Beverages https://a.co/d/5vTobIr)

    THE TWO SOURCES

    The Gemorah provides us with two methods of determining the reviis and they are cited l’halacha (See MB 486:1).

    • There is the thumb box volume with the dimensions of 2 thumb widths by 2  thumb widths by 2.7 thumb widths.
    • There is the displacement volume of 1.5 average eggs.

    It is clear that both of these values yielded the same volume.

    THE CONTROVERSY BEGINS

    Rav Yechezkel Landau (1713-1793) zt”l noted (Tzlach on Psachim 116a) the modern day discrepancy between the two measurements and found that the thumb box yielded a volume twice the size of the egg and half volume.  He posited that the eggs during the times of chazal were twice the size of the modern eggs.  This is not in accordance with the view of Rav Yoseph Karo in his Shulchan Aruch.

    Generally speaking. three major opinions have developed.

    • Rav Chaim No’eh (1890-1954) zt”l, basing himself on the Rambam’s quote of the weight conversion to volume of the Dirham, a coin that was present in medieval times, determined the Revi’is to be the equivalent of 86.4 grams.  This translates to 3.05 ounces.
    • The Chazon Ish, however, calculated that the Reviis is 150 grams or 5.3 ounces. (The Steipler Gaon in his Shiurin Shel Torah according to the Chazon Ish (p. 66).
    • Rav Moshe Feinstein zt”l calculated that the Revi’is is 93.56 grams which is 3.3 ounces (Rav Dovid Feinstein zt”l in his Kol Dodi Hagaddah).

    The Rambam writes in Hilchos Eiruvin (1:12) that a reviis of water is equivalent in weight to 26.25 Dirhams. [This was rounded up to 27 by other Poskim] Rav Chaim No’eh assumed that the Dirham that the Rambam referenced was one that was much later – equivalent to those in Yerushalayim during his own time [and that they never changed].  Modern discoveries, however, have proven that during the Rambam’s time, the Dirham was much smaller.

    The Sefer Hidurei Midos cites all of these references (and the most recent printing has a haskama of Rav Shlomo Miller shlita).  He also recommends the smaller shiur for anyone who needs it.

    And so, anyone who cannot drink this shiur should use the “I Love Colorado” 2.6 ounce shot glass.  Also, since it is too late to order them from Amazon, this author has ordered 144 of such glasses. May those who need it receive a refuah shleimah b’karov!

    You can contact the author at [email protected]

    Someone pointed out to me that there is a $60 set too –

    Barski – European Glass – Whiskey Shot Glasses – Artistically Designed – 2.6 oz. – Set of 6 – Made in Europe

    Also this one:  DECOLUSH 75mL (2.5 Ounce) Stainless Steel Espresso Cups – 4 Pack Double Wall Insulated Cups Demitasse Cups Coffee Cup For Drinking, Drinking Coffee, Drinking Beverages https://a.co/d/5vTobIr

    You can contact the author at [email protected]


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    Liam K. Nuj
    Liam K. Nuj
    1 year ago

    R’ Chaim Noeh’s shiurim are more and more widely accepted as the most accurate, especially based on recent archeological findings. His shiur is 86.4 milliliters, or 2.92 fluid ounces.
    BTW, 86 is the gematria of “KOS”

    Last edited 1 year ago by Aron1
    Yossi
    Yossi
    1 year ago

    I don’t understand the ending of refuah shelaima, is there a hidur to use a large cup and this is only for cholim???
    In Shulchan Aruch Harav the Rav brings that we should use smaller cups and finish the whole thing.

    Zelig
    Zelig
    1 year ago

    It’s unclear where this 75ml/2.54oz comes from. Rav Ovadia Yosef (cited as a source for this) in Sefer Halichos Olam says the dirham (above “drahm”) was found to be 3 grams.
    Rambam says a reviis is 27 dirhams; ergo 3 grams x 27 is:
    81 grams
    81ml
    2.74oz
    .

    Considering many not filling their cup completely and how much wine often spills over before drinking occurs, even a 2.75oz cup is too small.

    Tzarich iyun.

    Last edited 1 year ago by Zelig
    Kvetch
    Kvetch
    1 year ago

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    1 year ago

    Strange.
    And you should be Mahdar and use a big silver cup

    Moish
    Moish
    1 year ago

    I believe the 75 cubic centimeters ought to be corrected to 75 millimeters or 7.5 cubic centimeters.