Beit Shemesh, Israel – Haredim Reject Beit Shemesh Division Plan

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    FILE - An anti-Zionist, ultra Orthodox Jewish man from the Neturei Karta sect of Hassidic Jews, dressed in a burlap sack, stands in the bushes during a demonstration in Bet Shemesh, Israel, 20 April 2010 EPABeit Shemesh, Israel – Ultra-Orthodox residents have expressed their objection to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s plan to divide Beit Shemesh into two separate cities – one for haredim and the other for secular and religious residents.

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    Members of the Sikrikim (Sicarii) extremist group explain that in such a case, they would prefer living under “secular rule”, while the moderate haredim fear a situation in which the zealots’ violence will be directed at them due to the absence of any other potential victims.

    Mendel, who defined himself as “anti-Zionist” and supports some of the recent acts of violence in the city, told Ynet that his community members don’t really care about the religious or political affiliation of the government outside their own neighborhood, which they believe must be completely Orthodox.

    “The current situation on the ground is good for us,” he explains. “The secular city lives on its own and we have no connection with its residents, apart from when we need to visit the National Insurance Institute or something of the kind. Even the transportation is separate.

    “The conflict is only on the border area, where the national-religion received land for a school on our expense, but that’s a specific problem. The entire separation discussion is theoretical and unjustified.”


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    Avreich1
    Avreich1
    12 years ago

    “Members of the Sikrikim (Sicarii) extremist group explain that in such a case, they would prefer living under ‘secular rule’. “

    One wonders why. Is it because they realize they don’t have the ability, the skills, the finance or the political nous.

    Or is it because they wish to play the roles of victims עד בוא המשיח?

    Dovid_from_Modiin
    Dovid_from_Modiin
    12 years ago

    What about Ramallah?

    FinVeeNemtMenSeichel
    FinVeeNemtMenSeichel
    12 years ago

    Sounds like yassir Arafat ym”s. Incoherent terrorist.

    JewishPoet
    JewishPoet
    12 years ago

    I.S.R.A.E.L. עַם יִשְרָאֵל חַי Written: by A Jewish Poet, January 1 2012

    chaos in the street,
    were a little innocent girl has been mistreat,
    entire nation on their feet,
    men women children defeat,

    a group of extreme fanatics,
    with radical agenda tactics,
    armed with semiautomatics,
    anarchy peril and dramatics,

    to impose the taliban way of life,
    segregate men and women they strife,
    its their way or a knife,
    no respect for human life,

    they claim to be the oppressed,
    its their country and everyone else is only a guest,
    when in fact living in israel they should be blessed,
    to the country they contribute zero but have constant requests,

    in the name of a false god,
    force people back to the gulag,
    protesting in striped WW2 garb,
    isolate its people into wire barb,

    the world is watching with awe,
    they have no regard for the law,
    coming at us with a chain saw,
    from world society they withdraw,

    they dont recognize the land they live in,
    to them its a game they must win,
    our jewish heritage and values they spin,
    psycho brains razor thin,

    shredready
    shredready
    12 years ago

    of course they are opposed to it, in their heart they know they cannot survive with the largess of the secular

    DB_from_LI
    DB_from_LI
    12 years ago

    It amazes me that if you (Mendel) repeat something enough you start to believe its true. You say “The conflict is only on the border area, where the national-religion received land for a school on our expense”, yet before it was the girls school it was the boys Yeshiva for the Dati Leumi neighborhood. Long before the Chareidi neighborhood expanded to meet the Religious one. Also, I sitting here in Long Island knew about the change over to the girls school & their renovation plans years ago. Even though you thugs succeeded in delaying the school from opening on time this year though injunctions, the courts sided with the girls school, so you took it into your own hands to right YOUR perceived wrong. JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT IT DOESN’T MEAN YOU CAN GET/HAVE IT! It’s a lesson I teach my toddlers. Thankfully my grade school kids get that concept already.

    The-Macher
    The-Macher
    12 years ago

    “The current situation on the ground is good for us,” he explains. “The secular city lives on its own and we have no connection with its residents, apart from when we need to visit the National Insurance Institute or something of the kind. Even the transportation is separate.”

    Nice. Anti-Zionist (which I am as well, but I do not live in EY nor do I take one agora from anyone there) and he goes to the Bituah Leumi. These self-appointed kanoim are the reason for all the trouble, and if this one is any indication, the real kanoim of old, R’ Amram Bloy, R’ Yoilish and R’ Arele, are all spinning in their graves.

    CampRunamok
    CampRunamok
    12 years ago

    Someone needs to explain to PM Netanyahu that when Shlomo HaMelech decided to cut the baby in half he meant it as a psychological game to pulse out the liar. He never intended to actually do it. Division strategies never work; the British partition plans for Eretz Yisrael, the Indian Subcontinent, Cyprus, etc. have all ended up causing huge wars. Bibi simply needs to enforce the laws of the country and back it up with as much enforcement power he can muster.

    wally
    wally
    12 years ago

    Nuts! Lets all use our brains,not fight,and definitely not write silly false poems.

    tzionyus
    tzionyus
    12 years ago

    Enough is enough we gotta get all of klal Yisroel together and quiet these crazy self hating Jews enough with the spitting rioting and chillul Hashem!!

    12 years ago

    Expulsion of these extremists from EY as has been proposed by some MKs or construction of detention camps in the remote areas of the Negev may be the only option. They cannot be socialized to live in close proximity to any people and even the normal chareidim are terrified of living near them. Isolating them from society is the only viable option.

    Cadd9
    Cadd9
    12 years ago

    Mendele the kanoi doesn’t need any help to continue his existence. The only minor worry he has is transportation to the government office that arranges his welfare package. Other then this minor detail (and his kupat cholim) Mendele the Kanoi announces to all that he doesn’t recognize the Zionist entity. He even has a cute song that he sings to that effect. (Not while cashing the check, of course)
    The crazy Zionist regime in the diabolacal Nazi like tactics force Mendele to arrange transportation to sign the forms in their offices, and Mendele can’t even order the women around or educate them with his holy saliva. Why can’t they be decent and send over an approved male to collect Mendele’s signature. Pure evil.

    YIDELR
    YIDELR
    12 years ago

    can someone please explain me, why when gush katif was returned it was allowed to wear yellow stars and make a protest in midtown manhttan with signs stating nazi traitor on sharon???

    12 years ago

    Remember this headline… December 4, 2011 “Clinton Says Orthodox Jewish Customs Concern for Israeli Democracy” I said back then that this is nothing more than to divide the country in two! Obama’s politics at work! Divide than conquer!
    This is exactly what the left wing media was waiting for, even though this was one isolated case, the left wing media is running it like every orthodox Jew is a radical extremist. There are hundreds of missiles hitting Israel everyday simply because we’re Jewish and the Muslims want to wipe us off the face off the earth, whether we are orthodox or secular, just like Hitler he didn’t care, a Jew was a Jew. Yet the left does report that as zealously as they reported this!
    Let us not fall into the hatred that the left is trying to bring about. They would like for nothing more than to see Jew against Jew, Orthodox against Orthodox…They are trying to divide us to weaken us…don’t let them. They the media are full of hypocrisies why should we pay them any mind. I will say this, what that religious person didn’t wasn’t smart. There are better ways to solve these issues among ourselves like brother, so as not to let the world pretend that we Jews all hate each other, to gain world opinion that all Jews are bad, and side with their Muslim Brothers even if they are killers…
    Let us not play the “Obama Political Game” to divide us, for that is exactly what they are trying to do!!!

    YIDELR
    YIDELR
    12 years ago

    for years when satmar made a protest in manhattan against “chilull shabbos” gius bunos” “netuchai meisim” .
    there was outcrys from all the yiden its a “chillel hashem” to go out on the streets and of course you never saw chabad participate..
    but when sharon gave back gush katif all of a sudden these same people especially chabad where the biggest protesters and even had the chutzpah to carry signs in midtown manhattan calling sharon a nazi with a picture as hitler.. what a hipocricy?

    DavidCohen
    DavidCohen
    12 years ago

    Wait, they rejected a plan to split the city? They had a problem with separating themselves from those who pay taxes and thereby fund everything from garbage collection to street lights and more? They refused a plan that would have perhaps impacted the funding they receive from the “G-d Challenging Zionist State”? I’m shocked!