CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — Democrats unleashed a roaring assault against Bernie Sanders’ electability and seized on Mike Bloomberg’s past with women in the workplace in a raucous debate Tuesday night that tested the strength of the two men leading their party’s presidential nomination fight.
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Sanders, his status as the Democratic front-runner undeniable, faced the brunt of the attacks for much of the night.
Pete Buttigieg, mired among the moderates fighting to emerge as the chief Sanders’ alternative, seized on Sanders’ self-described democratic socialism and his recent comments expressing admiration for Cuban dictator Fidel Castro’s push for education.
“I am not looking forward to a scenario where it comes down to Donald Trump with his nostalgia for the social order of the 1950s and Bernie Sanders with a nostalgia for the revolutionary politics of the 1960s,” Buttigieg declared.
Sanderslashed back throughout the night, pointing to polls that showed him beating the Republican president and noting all the recent attention he’s gotten: “I’m hearing my name mentioned a little bit tonight. I wonder why?”
The new wave of infighting came as Democrats met for the party’s 10th — and perhaps most consequential — debate of the 2020 primary season. Tuesday’s forum, sponsored by CBS and the Congressional Black Caucus Institute, came just four days before South Carolina’s first-in-the-South primary and one week before more than a dozen states vote on Super Tuesday.
The intensity of Tuesday’s clash, with candidates repeatedly yelling over each other, reflected the reality that the Democrats’ establishment wing is quickly running out of time to stop Sanders’ rise. Even some critics, Bloomberg among them, conceded thatthe Sanders could build an insurmountable delegate lead as soon as next week.
The Democrats’ 2020 class will not stand side-by-side on the debate stage until the middle of next month, making Tuesday’s debate the best, and perhaps last, chance for some candidates to save themselves and alter the trajectory of the high-stakes nomination fight.
The night marked a bitter-sweet high point of sorts for Sanders’ decades-long political career.
After spending nearly three decades as an outside agitator who delighted in tearing into his party’s establishment, that same establishment was suddenly fighting to take him down.
Even Sanders’ ideological ally, Elizabeth Warren, questioned the Vermont senator’s ability to lead the nation.
“Bernie and I agree on a lot of things, but I think I would make a better president than Bernie,” Warren said in one of her few swipes at Sanders in recent weeks.
And while the knives were out for Sanders, Bloomberg also faced sustained attacks that gave him an opportunity to redeem himself after a bad debate debut one week earlier.
Warren saved her fiercest attacks for the New York billionaire.
She cut hard at Bloomberg’s record as a businessman, bringing up reports of one particular allegation that he told a pregnant employee “to kill it,” a reference to the woman’s unborn child. Bloomberg fiercely denied the allegation, but acknowledged he sometimes made comments that were inappropriate.
Bloomberg “cannot earn the trust of the core of the Democratic Party,” Warren said. “He is the riskiest candidate standing on this stage.”
Bloomberg was steadier on his feet Tuesday, although it was unclear whether the performance would be enough to revive his stalled presidential campaign.
His fortune ensures he will remain a factor at least through Super Tuesday. Bloomberg has already spent more than $500 million on a nationwide advertising campaign.
Turning toward Sanders, Bloomberg made the case that both Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin are in lockstep in their belief that Sanders would make the weakest Democratic general election rival for the incumbent Trump. Last week, Sanders acknowledged that he’d be been briefed by intelligence officials who said that Russia is attempting to interfere in the elections to benefit him.
“Vladimir Putin thinks Donald Trump should be president of the United States and that’s why Russia is helping you get elected so you lose to him,” Bloomberg said.
Sanders shot back, “Hey, Mr. Putin, if I’m president of the United States, trust me you’re not going to interfere in any more American elections.’”
Biden was also looking to make a big impression in South Carolina, where he was long viewed as the unquestioned front-runner because of his support from black voters.
South Carolina’s first-in-the-South primary offers the first real look at the outsized influence African American voters play in the Democrats’ presidential nomination process.
Biden has long looked to South Carolina — and black voters in particular — as a source of strength. But heading into Saturday’s primary after three consecutive underwhelming finishes, there were signs that the former vice president’s African American support may be slipping.
One reason: Tom Steyer. The billionaire activist has been pouring money into African American outreach, which threatens to peel away some of the support Biden badly needs.
Steyer noted Tuesday that he was the only candidate on stage who supported reparations for descendants of slaves.
Bloomberg also weighed in on race: “I know that if I were black my success would have been a lot harder to achieve,” he said. “That’s a fact that we’ve got to do something about.”
Gun control also played prominently at the debate, held close to the church where a gunman killed nine black parishioners in 2015.
Biden slammed Sanders for his record on gun control, seizing on the Vermont senator’s supportof the 2005 Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, legislation that protects gun manufacturers and sellers from laws that attempt to hold them liable for dealing firearms that end up in the hand of criminals.
“My friend to my right, and others, have in fact also given in to gun manufacturers absolute immunity,” said Biden, referring to Sanders backing of the controversial gun legislation. “Imagine if I stood here and said, ‘We give immunity to drug companies. We give immunity to tobacco companies.’ That has caused carnage on our streets. ”
Sanders proudly highlighted his “D minus” rating from the pro-gun organization. And just last week, several gun control advocates who survived the Parkland, Florida, school shooting endorsed him.
Sen. Amy Klobuchar also fought to win over moderates while decrying Sanders’ chief policy priorities.
I wanted to share my observations regarding the debate last night in Charleston. This is not an endorsement of any candidate. Last night’s debate was much livelier than the one in Las Vegas. For the first time ever, Tom Steyer lost his cool, when Biden accused him of buying a private prison system, knowing that prisoners were being mistreated. I never saw any of the other candidates lose it, as Steyer did last evening. Steyer stated that “he sold he prison when he found out the facts”. However, his explanation did not seem to be credible. It is a good thing that Biden and Steyer were were not standing directly next to each other, as it looked like that they were close to coming to blows.
Regarding Joe Biden, I noticed that he likes to shout and yell a lot, no matter what point he is making. He is still making errors pertaining to statistics. For example, last evening, when referring to victims of gun violence over the years, instead of stating one hundred fifty thousand, he stated one hundred fifty million.
Amy Klobochar came across as boring; in fact, someone actually yelled out “boring” at her, as she was speaking. She just doesn’t come across as inspiring. On the other hand, Pete Buttigieg comes across as a smug individual, or “Mr. know it all”.
Bernie was able to hold his own, and not lose his temper. Whether you love him or hate him, can’t stand him, or disagree with everything he says, it is not easy being under constant attack from all sides (last night, they were out to “get Bernie”), and still calmly state your position on the issues.
Now, for the crescendo of the evening, which was Elizabeth Warren and Mike Bloomberg. Although he was better prepared last evening than last week, Bloomberg still came across as indecisive and evasive regarding answering questions, about his past. At times, he appeared as a disabled tank, trying to get its treads moving again, with Elizabeth Warren firing rockets at him, from a bazooka. I really thought that he would have been more assertive and aggressive towards her, to deflect her criticism. Certainly, he could have gone after her about her false allegations of being part Native American. Yet, he was on the defensive, when she once again wiped the floor with him. For example, she kept referring to his past financial support of conservative Republican candidates. He should have stated that he also supported Democrats. Last, I’m always amazed how Bloomberg keeps pointing out all of the support that he allegedly has from the Black community. He stated that “I have support from 100 Black elected officials from NYC, many of whom are in this room”. The latter remark was tantamount to a gentile stating that “some of my best friends are Jews”.
All in all, last night’s debate resulted in a lively evening. It was like being at a Broadway show, without paying an excessive amount for tickets.
Listen up closely Yoni of one of your ten other immature screen names like ticker mit ah.
Bernie is a pathological liar and he is selling you a bill of goods.
Here is the lie.
If Bernie gets his way this country will NOT look like other developed countries. That’s a fat lie.
You see Bernie says it’s Medicare for all but if you have Even a bird brain you’d see he its nonsense. ( it’s like trump building a beautiful wall that Mexico will pay for. I still love trump but I am not naive) He then says it will be like the bronze gold plans unions have with no premiums copays or deductibles.
That’s where the lies come in. In other countries it’s not that level of coverage. 1) You need to still purchase a supplemental
plan.
2) Medicare does not cover dental long term care. It has premiums and copays
3) the quality of care like what unions get is currently top notch in the USA. People fly into this country from all over the world for our top care . You cannot afford that . And Americans will never want to give that up
4) the cost of care is inherently higher here due to its vast rural areas.
These are just a few reasons why if Bernie gets his way it won’t look like Canada . It will either decimate our system
and wreck havoc. Or it will cost a lot more than you think and we’d need be even more socialist.
So stop falling for his silly bill of goods
To: Educated Archy- Archy, I noticed that you got your feathers ruffled again. I guess that in real life, you have a short fuse, also. Kindly note (reread my article), that I never once in my statement, wrote that I approved of anything that Bernie Sanders stated on the debate stage last night. In fact, I wrote that whether you love him or hate him, it is not easy to fend off all of the attacks coming one’s way, and to stay calm. I did not offer an opinion one way or another about Sanders, and further, I stated that I was not endorsing anybody. Unfortunately, you took my opinion of his performance, as a personal affront, and proceeded with your usual diatribe, containing your unfounded and unsubstantiated allegations. I’d like to thank you, Mr. Archy, as your lively postings brightens up a dreary day; keep them coming!