NEW YORK (VINnews) — The Satmar Rebbe, Rabbi Aharon, who serves as the spiritual leader of Kiryas Joel has sharply criticized the yeshiva of Vizhnitz-Williamsburg which recently founded a branch in Kiryas Joel. Rabbi Aharon said that the yeshiva has violated the community’s custom of maintaining the Shabbos according to the opinion of Rabbeinu Tam which requires waiting until 72 minutes after sunset on Saturday before performing prohibited activities.
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The Rebbe said that Rabbi Yoel of Satmar (1887-1979) had established the town in his old age in order to separate from the modern world and its customs as well as isolating his followers from other chasidic groups with a more Zionist approach. As part of the attempt to detach from other groups, the rebbe ruled that the community should maintain the opinion of Rabbeinu Tam regarding the conclusion of Shabbos due to the possibility of desecration of the Shabbos.
The new community which does not follow the Satmar rebbe and does not follow the local custom is causing a breach in the community and insults the memory of the Satmar rebbe who established the community. The rebbe added that “for the sake of peace and the honor of the previous rebbe I sent emissaries to try and talk with them but without success.” The rebbe asked those who have influence to try and talk with the other group in order to prevent a serious rift from developing in the community.
It is not in Kiryas Yoel, new area is in Bloomingrove , outside boundaries of Satmar. Satmar doesn’t get to control all surrounding villages.
” As part of the attempt to detach from other groups, the rebbe ruled that the community should maintain the opinion of Rabbeinu Tam regarding the conclusion of Shabbos due to the possibility of desecration of the Shabbos.”
What has one to do with the other, the rabeinu taam was a anti zionist while the geonim was a zionisty? How about the fact that Belz and Kolsnberg hold rabeinu Tamm as well?
in 1999, He himself has said that people should not make a machlokes about the eiruv in Boro Park, using Rabeinu Tam a and Machine Matson as an example, of Halachik disagreements with no Hashkafic implication.
I think this article is misquoting him or is he again involved in another Machlokes? Over the years Satamer has had so many adversaries, including Belz, Kausenberg, Lubavitch, Vishnits, Kashau, Meisels in Bnei Brak and I am sure I missed a few too, it’s time for some introspection to ask themselves is there place for some achdus after 1938 even after 1948.
In Flatbush in every Yeshiva and Shul you have people who hold by different zmanim and never have I seen this being a source of any conflict. The supporters of Satmar love saying how much an ohev yisroel R’ Joel was, so maybe in spirit of that the Rebbe should express his love for Vizhnitz and show how they can get along despite a different minhag in terms of zmanim. If this issue will cause a rift, maybe they should be learning some mussar about being ohev yisroel, even for those whose minhagim differ.
I don’t get it. Whats the big deal? So keep 72 lman hasholom? Aside for a fast day.
If the article quotes the Rebbe accurately, then one can soon expect violence in the near future.
When one group decides that an area is exclusively theirs, and their rules are not followed by some, then violence ensues. As evidence of this, we need only to remember the fire that was set in Skver at someones home, because he didn’t follow a rule. SAD TO SEE.
Oh baby! This is definitely going to be one of the most commented on stories on VIN. Glad I got in early. Following 🙂
Is satmar ever happy about anything? Seems they only know how to find faults and be negat
ive
So the Ge’onim were Zionists, and those who don’t follow Rabbeinu Tam are also?
I remember a story with the Israeli Prime Minister (foi foi) who went to visit a child whose entire family was killed in the Sbarro restaurant, I think her name was Chaya Schivischerder. He asked her what she wanted, and she said that he should keep Shabbos.
As a publicity stunt, he kept one Shabbos. His aides checked the times for him, and he accidentally was told the Zman Rabbeinu Tam. On Motzei Shabbos, before Rabbeinu Tam’s Zman, Gafni called his house to speak to him.
So the Zionists keep Rabbeinu Tam’s Zman, not the other one.
I think Satmar needs to change quick.
Are you serious?
Every community the chasidim, including Sather, move into. They do what they want and claim it’s a free country. [I agree with that]
Now they get a majority of an area and want total control. You can’t have it both ways. I guess the non jews that were in Monroe before Satmer should have made satmer keep there rules
what other Hasidic groups dont hold of Rabeinu Tam?
WHEN IN ROME BEHAVE LIKE A ROMEN …..MAKES SENCE TO ME
he is 100% RIGHT!