Twitter War Erupts in Charedi Community Over Governor Hochul

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FILE - New York Gov. Kathy Hochul speaks at an event, Friday, Dec. 10, 2021, in New York. Gov. Hochul said she wants New York to impose term limits on her office and other statewide elected officials and ban them from earning an outside income, changes that implicitly rebuke her predecessor Andrew Cuomo, in a statement issued Monday, Jan. 3, 2022. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer, File)

NEW YORK (Yaakov M / VINnews) — A Twitter showdown took place between several vocal members of the Charedi community.

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The debate focused on whether frum Jews should be concerned about Governor Kathy Hochul, after her campaign stalled on repeated interview requests from the frum media, and ultimately failed to deliver.

Mishpacha editor Yochanon Donn rebuked the Hochul campaign for essentially ignoring the Charedi media. In response, Mordy Getz sharply rebuked Mr. Donn and his publication. He accused them of “shortsightedness” and said they “choose partisanship over truth”.

He also said Mr. Donn’s publication “incites the passions of impressionable and uneducated youth to further tweet in the same manner you do.”

And Mr. Getz claimed they “actively push away those who seek to be understanding of us while embracing people with views antagonistic to our minority community.”

Even Jake Turx got into the conversation, in defense of the Charedi media.

It all began last week when, after congratulating the Governor on her primary victory, Mr. Donn blasted her campaign.

He tweeted: “Very disturbing that her campaign promised interviews with at least 3 frum media – Mishpacha, Hamodia and Ami – and it never materialized. Aside for Cuomo, no other candidate has refused to talk to our community thru its media. Me, as well as journalists from the others, have sent repeated requests for a sit-down with the governor. They weren’t ignored, just slow-walked until it was too late. The fact Gov. Hochul won the overwhelming majority of the Orthodox vote makes it more urgent that we be heard.”

Mordy Getz, successful businessman and outspoken community member, responded to Mr. Donn, criticizing the Charedi media and defending the Hochul campaign.

In a series of tweets, Mr. Getz wrote: “Yoichy, I wish there was another way to share this but since you tweeted the below publicly, I feel like I must take a minute to explain the shortsightedness that you and your colleagues display, directly leading to these supposed acts of marginalization. You see, when time after time you go overboard in attacking @GovKathyHochul or other political officials for allegedly mistreating our community, you lose much of the good faith they naturally had by showing no good faith towards them.”

He continued: “When Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene receives fawning interviews in the Ami, and @andrewcuomo , a longtime friend of the Jews is suddenly cast as an enemy, you not only lose any appearance of neutrality but also the support from others who may wish to be your allies.

When @GovKathyHochul is attacked by you for appearing with Al Sharpton, but Donald Trump is treated as a savior despite meeting with our adversaries (not to mention dozens of friendly photos with the aforementioned Sharpton),you tell potential allies that you choose partisanship over truth. What do you expect in return?

“What do you think moderate and sensible democrats in New York like @GovKathyHochul and @ericadamsfornyc feel when people with a platform like you vilify them even as they speak out and act against antisemitism (which you did before)?

“Your publication and those like it incite the passions of impressionable and uneducated youth to further tweet in the same manner you do. You actively push away those who seek to be understanding of us while embracing people with views antagonistic to our minority community.

“Instead of wondering why the governor doesn’t want to be interviewed by those who employ you and by the magazine who feature MTG, Trump Jr. et al. as heroes and portray longtime friends as enemies, do some introspection into your culpability. It’s plain to see.”

Jake Turx, Ami’s White House correspondent, got in on the action as well, and appeared to defend MTG.

Aside from the clown stuff and the occasional flashy prop, what’s so terrible about MTG?” Turx wrote.

Commentator Yossi Gestetner got involved as well. He replied to Mr. Getz: “Na I have no idea how an interview in @Ami_Magazine (that Mordy mentioned) has anything to do with @themishpacha or Hamodia. Secondly, most points made by @MordyGetz would be relevant if he addressed community leaders insulted for not getting a meeting; not reporters.

“They don’t need to be well-behaved on politics of the day to “earn” an interview with leading papers of a politically-active community. If @GovKathyHochul thinks that Haredim are not worthy voters, @YLefkowitz wouldn’t be hired. If we are, then our media deserve interviews.

Yaakov M is a senior columnist for VIN News and former Op-Ed columnist for Newsmax. He has hosted a conservative podcast for 15 years. He studied in Kollel for 14 years, was a Bais Medrash Rebbi for over a decade, and obtained semicha from a top Rosh Yeshiva.

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D. B.
D. B.
1 year ago

Mordy might be outspoken and on the forefront of many issues and hot topics. And everyone in that position will have commentators and negative connotation. However, knowing Mordy upclose, he has been helping many hundreds and even thousands of families and individuals in our community in all areas and hence that’s the reason he is so often outspoken. His legitimate and REAL ask askunis puts to shame all those so called “Jewish Journalists” for they have brought no good upon our community. כה לחי רבי מרדכי.
וכל מי שעוסקים בצרכי ציבור באמונה הקדוש ברוך הוא ישלם שכרם. אמן

Vote GOPQ
Vote GOPQ
1 year ago

Who to vote for is besides the point. Getz is making the very strong point that “frum” media is overtly biased and does not adhere to normative journalistic standards. Getz’s point is true even if you chose to vote Zeldin. Getz’s point is that it is quite obvious why Hochul would turn down an interview request from “frum” media just as Obama won’t give an interview to Breitbart and Trump won’t go on MSNBC.

Yosef Moker
Yosef Moker
1 year ago

To describe Mordy Getz as a businessman and outspoken community member is to completely miss the point. He’s not outspoken as much as he is one who stands up and does lemaaseh.

While the journalists and opinion makers literally remain relevant by getting clicks and stirring up controversy, Mordy is the guy that is on the ground doing for people in the community. I found it notable that when he made bar mitzvah (I believe) this year, every organization from RCCS to Amudim to Refuah Helpline was there to honor him. He’s the guy people turn to when they start a business and need help. He’s the guy people call late at night for help. Not those noisemakers.

I’ll side with the opinion of someone who actually did more for Klal Yisroel than all these journalists combined.

Worthless peasant
Worthless peasant
1 year ago

“Mordy Getz, successful businessman and outspoken community member”

That is your problem right there. Nobody appointed him as a spokesman or “askan” on behalf of anyone. He joins a big list of SELF APPOINTED ASKANIM!!! Every yokel who made a few dollars thinks they are a shem davar and everyone must hang on to their every word as if it’s Toras Moshe mesinai. They are NOT daas Torah or community “leaders”. Being a “successful businessman” means shish. Having money doesn’t make you a political expert. It doesn’t make them an expert on anything. What’s in it for them? Today’s Korach viadaso.

Last edited 1 year ago by Worthless peasant
Alex
Alex
1 year ago

Keep voting for the Democrats!!! Soon there be nothing left of this country …

NYorker
NYorker
1 year ago

I don’t care about Getz or Donn, there are 5 votes in my household and we won’t for this trash, no matter how much money she promises to the heads of our mosdoses pocket

A yid
A yid
1 year ago

She should not getting frum yiddens vote because of her liberal politics

Esther
Esther
1 year ago

This Getsz person promotes Cuomo as a friend of our community?! Shame on him! We don’t need “friends” who are serial predators and who focus there public COVID attacks solely on us.

Golda
Golda
1 year ago

I’m going to vomit…”frum” Jews fighting over the attention of a reshanta pro-abortion, pro-perverted politician…It’s absolutely insane what we’ve come to.

anonymous 2
anonymous 2
1 year ago

There are at least 2 main reasons that no Jew or even a non Jew should not vote for her 1- She refuses to change the bail laws, which puts in danger the lives of all New Yorkers. 2- She supports abortion up until birth Which is considered murder according to the Torah even for a non Jew. The Rambam says that a Jew should see to it that Shevs mitzvos bnei Noach are observed by non Jews.
Any Jew that supports her Violates the Torah.

lipa99
lipa99
1 year ago

Getz is a one-man band and looks out for himself only – not for the Orthodox community

Jay
Jay
1 year ago

Can we please vote Republican??? The dems feed well into the politicians and the attention seekers!! Enough!!!

The Commish
The Commish
1 year ago

Hochul is a left-wing, looney, anti-Torah Values DemocRAT. These (Tr)ashkanim who think they can make more money on these types of candidates don’t care about anyone else but their own bank accounts. Let’s clean up America. Let’s clean up New York. Vote Republican!!

Voice of Reason
Voice of Reason
1 year ago

Orthodox Mosdot always vote for money. It’s about time the Jewish individual does what’s best for G-d, themselves, their family. We are treated and commodity by the political
Arm of the chasidim. ENOUGH!

Iyar5
Iyar5
1 year ago

The Frum Community:- Actually every single Jew already has an outright פסק-דין from the undisputed גדול-הדור of yesteryear:- HoRav אביגדור הכהן Miller זצקללה”ה:- Never vote for a liberal, supporting alternate lifestyles, nor for a murderer {abortion & murder are 2 interchangeable words}; So here you go:- No-one with any morals left can possibly vote for this viscous evil woman.
All this in addition to his פסק to vote for whoever enforces Law & Order, and sustaining bail reform, makes this vicious evil woman totally ineligible to receive any votes from anyone of decent standing.

Brian Robinson - Boro Park Congress NY-D10
Brian Robinson - Boro Park Congress NY-D10
1 year ago

VosIzNeias – VINnews was one of only a select few Frum Media to interview moderate common sense Boro Park Jewish Congressional Pro Yeshiva/Israel/Police NY-D10 candidate Brian Robinson on their Podcast,.

Most other Frum Media have ignored his campaign requests for a interview because they were told by certain “Askunim” to deny media coverage, because they don’t want to anger the radical left candidates running against Brian Robinson.

Kudos to VINnews, And hope to see more news articles on VINnews covering the only moderate candidate in this Congress race that 100% Supporters Israel/Yeshivas/Police.

Thank You.
Brian Robinson Borough Park Team.

ahyid
ahyid
1 year ago

Mr. Getz how can anyone call Coumo a friend of the Jewish community? Every summer I’m reminded of the evil coumo trying to shut down summer camps. And every time I walk by the back door of the yeshiva near my house I’m reminded of the vindictive, evil man who tried to shut down yeshivos and businesses in the Jewish community only 2 years ago.

Yitzchok
Yitzchok
1 year ago

Hypocrites what happened to the attack on our Yeshiva’s curriculum the woke agenda??? All of a sudden they see dollar s and the chazer becomes kosher

Jay
Jay
1 year ago

Have we lost our minds and came to a point where we have to listen to “businessmen” for whom to vote for?!?! Cant we see for ourselves the track records for each and every Democrat??

Been here and there
Been here and there
1 year ago

Why does not heimishe community wake up!! MTG and politicians with her thinking and policies are much more in alignment with Jewish Orthodox community and hashkofos. Hochul is a liberal, lying progressive socialistic self-serving whatever. . as are her comrades in the democratic party. These are our enemies , and the dollar signs are blinding Yidden from KJ to BP, Williamsburg and all other gullible ignorant fools.

Neshama
Neshama
1 year ago

Don’t trust this woman, she is deeply into the DS agenda. Lack of permit to carry marks NY frum communities with a big red X = open season. You can choose not to believe but the direction she is going in is NOT in support of the JEWS

ahyid
ahyid
1 year ago

I could give three reasons why Gov Houhal wouldn’t give an interview. 1. she knew she would be asked about yeshiva education. An answer favorable to us will alienate her left wing base. 2. She knows the askanim and Mosdos will endorse her regardless. 3. She knows most frum neighborhoods will vote Republican in November.

Triumpinwhitehouse
Triumpinwhitehouse
1 year ago

Boycott eichlers

Aguttenshabbos
Aguttenshabbos
1 year ago

The “chareidim” (obviously not G-d fearing) that vote for these lefty liberals, and radicals to boot, are hurting not just everyone else in the Frum community, But everyone else with a modicum of family values and patriotism in the areas that these politicians represent. These voters and endorsers are literally trading their values and religion for money. Disgusting!! They deserve all the scorn and mockery that they get.

Mendy Hecht
Mendy Hecht
1 year ago

Mordy who?

Jackson
Jackson
1 year ago

Anyone who can fault the frum community for dumping Cuomo and treating him like an enemy is clearly not a guy to take political advice from.

Ari
Ari
1 year ago

Why does Getz think media should only cover democrats? Isn’t media supposed to cover both sides? Anyhow, have been boycotting Eichlers for some time now.

Kollelfaker
Kollelfaker
1 year ago

It’s a real problem when our self appointed and anointed are telling us who to vote for. When they’re motivation is mostly about the success of their businesses. They’d sell themselves for a piece of coal I mean gold

We are not stupid and know what’s right for us. We need political leaders that are on the same wave length us we are. Security prosperity and lower taxes

We have a corrupt one party system in New York
We have a corrupt one party system in New York
1 year ago

Does Rabbi Don have a problem with Mrs. Hochul’s strong outspoken position on abortion? He didn’t mention a word of protest about her encouragement of women to murder their babies. His silence is deafening. Who is he getting his talking points from? Lakewood askanim?

Mordy doesn't getzit
Mordy doesn't getzit
1 year ago

Is this the same mordy getz who stands up for victims of abuse? The one whose against predators?
Oh…I guess that’s only for Jewish predators Cuomo is great in his opinion he is a self hating jew!
Imagine if cuomo would’ve been a frum ruv he would never stop bashing him.
Also by blaming one frum publication for another’s interview he’s acting like a total anti semite. shame on him

Emes
Emes
1 year ago

Don’t know how true, but there are rumors going around that she insisted her picture be in the article and was turned down.

amil zola
amil zola
1 year ago

Ok I am so confused. I thought that a bunch of rabbi’s issued a fatwah against the internet and smart phones a week or so ago?

Sol L
Sol L
1 year ago

Mordy Getz who the hell asked your opinion?

Educated Archy
Educated Archy
1 year ago

All of a sudden if we support the other party it’s a sin? It has become that like if you support Trump you were a fringey group . He won the presidency and was the president for 4 years. Wvy would you boycott a paper who supports the president ? Since when have we become so
Partisan in our politics? And on your end Getz it’s dumber bec it pushes us even more partisan

Educated Archy
Educated Archy
1 year ago

As many noted one he hocked about evil rasha governor antichos fuggetboutit

Gersey
Gersey
1 year ago

My father told me that as a youth in Klausenberg he knew a family of wealthy family of business people. Had a net worth of over $25M. Guess what, didn’t mean squat as they ended up with all the uremah leight in Auschwitz. It is the RS”O that makes the decisions, we have to live with it!

גענוג שוין
גענוג שוין
1 year ago

What is it with these so-called Hasidics who are so involved in politics, and running after and fawning over politicians?

If only they would be immersed in our holy Torah with such vigor and enthusiasm.

Been here and there
Been here and there
1 year ago

Gov. hochal has the punim of a ‘shin-daled’. But that and all her other ‘maalos’ matter not a bit to all the ‘wannabees’ and siren-chasers in our heimish community that are either desperate for a little kavod and recognition, or have only dollar signs in their eyes and hearts. Sad state we are in – pun not intended.

Turk
Turk
1 year ago

Just vote for democrats so they can continue to make fun of the jews ,for jews you just have to promise and not deliver

reb yid
reb yid
1 year ago

Well when you’re a CEO/administrator you’ve gotta suck up to the pols.

Mendy Hecht
Mendy Hecht
1 year ago

Who is Mordy Getz?

It takes no brains to vote Democrat
It takes no brains to vote Democrat
1 year ago

But all these losers are still ignorant and they’ll still endorse the Democrats.

It’s such a shame they don’t realize what the Democrats are really doing to them.

All for a few dollars in the handout.

Jews are supposed to have brains. People with brains don’t grow democrat!

Elat
Elat
1 year ago

Do you think the politicians don’t know that the only thing that matters is how many Sheqels they’ll put in the Rebbes (not his Chasidim, they can starve as far as the Rebbes are concerned) pockets?

Last edited 1 year ago by Elat
Judith
Judith
1 year ago

Maybe she doesn’t want her face blotted out , and maybe she wants to be interviewed by women as well as men . Haredi publications should not send men to talk to women . I thought that they considered it untznius to talk to women

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Secular
Secular
1 year ago

Why shouldn’t she avoid them ? They won’t show her face anyway.