The Frum Bartender, Tips, and the Four Poskim

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by Rabbi Yair Hoffman for the Sefas Tamim Foundation

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QUESTION:  I am a Torah observant Jew who tries to meticulously observe halacha.  Lately, I have been doing bartending for a Glatt Kosher caterer.  Someone advised me that if I put out a glass with the word, “Tips” written on an index card in a dark black marker and taped onto the glass and then place twenty dollar bills in it, I will get tips and the tips will be much larger.  I am concerned, however, that this may be a violation of Gneivas Da’as.  What is the halacha?

ANSWER:  It is an excellent question and one that we posed to several Gedolei HaPoskim.  But first a brief introduction.  The prohibition known as Gneivas Daas, involves fooling or deceiving others in physical practice. The Gemorah in Chullin (94a) cites Shmuel as saying that the prohibition applies to everyone.

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The Gemorah in Chulin 94a cites a Braisah which discusses a number of examples given by Rabbi Meir of things that are forbidden on account of the issue of Gneivas Daas.  In regard to the verse of midvar sheker tirchak stay away from a false matter, there is a three way debate as to how we understand this pasuk. The Chofetz Chaim rules in his Ahavas Chessed that there is an out and out prohibition to lie. This is in accordance with the view of some Rishonim. Other Rishonim hold that the verse is merely good advice, but not halacha. A third opinion holds that it is applicable to judges adjudicating law.  Generally speaking, the view of the Chofetz Chaim is normative halacha.

The prohibition of deceiving, however, is a clear out and out prohibition according to all opinions. According to the Sefer Yereim and the Ritvah it is a biblical prohibition. According to the SMaK the prohibition is derabanan. But all hold that it is a full-blown prohibition.

There is a fascinating Shaarei Teshuva (3:181) which states that the leniency of “Mutar l’shanos mipnei haShalom, sometimes it is permitted to tell a white lie to maintain peace” does not apply to Gneivas Daas. Gneivas Daas is a serious halachic issue that should not be ignored or trampled upon.

Now on to your inquiry.  Your question was posed (in order of how they were reached) to Rav Shmuel Fuerst shlita of Chicago, Rav Yisroel Dovid Harfenes Shlita of Williamsburg,  Rav Hershel Ausch shlita of Williamsburg, and Rav Shlomo Miller shlita of Toronto. The responses ranged significantly.   Rav Fuerst ruled that it is forbidden because it is a clear case of Gneivas Daas.  Rav Harfenes ruled that if he just puts in twenty-dollar bills then it would be Gneivas Da’as.  However, if there were five-dollar bills and one-dollar bills placed in the glass – then there would not be a problem. (Rav Fuerst also agreed to Rav Harfenes’ solution). Rav Ausch responded that it would be permitted as long as he does not say anything to promote giving the larger tip. Rav Miller explained that it is certainly not a proper thing to do, but he cannot say that it is assur in Din.  Given that there is such a wide range of responses, you should ask your own Rav or Posaik as to how to proceed.

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Guest
Guest
1 year ago

What about collectors in shuls who show big bills in one hand as they walk around ? Some show only 10s.

Gersey
Gersey
1 year ago

I told a collector once:
I am here speaking with the melech malachei hamalochim
Why you asking me, go ask him
I Never do and WILL NEVER give money to someone who asks during davening!!

Enough
Enough
1 year ago

Great idea since Orthodox Jews seldom til the bar tender. And in most cases he’s working for tips. Just like restaurants that now add too
Yo your bill

Frustrated male
Frustrated male
1 year ago

Ask AOC. She is an experienced bar tender.

Michael
Michael
1 year ago

I would love some explanation, as I don’t understand what the gneivas daas is here. Why can’t you suggest to people what they should tip you? They are deciding of their own volition to give. Why does it matter what they think others already have given? It’s not like they’re only giving because they think their names and amounts will be listed next to and in comparison with other donors—tips aren’t like that. (Im not chas vShalom challenging what these rabbonim have said; I simply would like to understand.)

Dan L'Kav Zchus
Dan L'Kav Zchus
1 year ago

When parve margarine first came out, people said you couldnt put it on the table with a fleishig meal because of maris ayin. Now that isnt a problem as we all know that parve spread options exist. It is common knowledge that baristas etc leave money in the tip jar as a subtle reminder to tip them. This has been done for over a century.

sander goldberg
sander goldberg
1 year ago

Let’s say this man has been tending bar for a while, and until now received $50 in tips in the past. Why shouldn’t he be able to “borrow” $50 from his wallet and place that in the jar.

Yonason_Herschlag
Yonason_Herschlag
1 year ago

Find a friend to put in the first few bills as his tip to you.