LGBTQ Students Sue Yeshiva University For Discrimination

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NEW YORK (JTA) — A group of students and alumni is suing Yeshiva University for discrimination, claiming that the university violated New York City’s human rights law when it refused to recognize an LGBTQ student club.

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The lawsuit was filed Tuesday in New York County Supreme Court.

Over the last few years, the students repeatedly lobbied the university’s administration to formally recognize a Gay-Straight Alliance club. The university, a prominent Modern Orthodox institution, has grappled with how to reconcile a traditional interpretation of Jewish law, which does not allow homosexual relations, with its engagement with the secular world.

Molly Meisels, a recent Yeshiva University graduate who led the effort for inclusion while enrolled, called the lawsuit “a last resort.” The suit asks the university to officially recognize the club as a student organization and to award damages to the plaintiffs.

“Queer students and allies at Yeshiva University have been meeting with administrators, applying for club status, sharing our stories with rabbinical figures and advocating internally for years,” Meisels told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency. “When we realized that our efforts were for naught, we knew that filing a lawsuit was the last way for us to succeed in our endeavors.”

Yeshiva University registers as a nonsectarian corporation, and has received “hundreds of millions of dollars” in state funds and benefits, according to the suit. The students say that the school should not “pick and choose which New York City laws apply.”

On Tuesday, 48 faculty members of Yeshiva University’s Cardozo School of Law sent a letter to the president of the university, condemning Y.U.’s refusal to allow LGBTQ students to form a club. “Discrimination against a student organization solely because of its focus on LGBTQ+ issues has no place in a university that holds itself out as a community committed to the flourishing and equal dignity of all its members,” the letter reads. The faculty members also wrote that the university’s decision is “unlawful under federal, state, and city civil rights laws.”

In a statement sent Tuesday evening, the university responded: “Yeshiva University is the bearer of a 3,000 year-old Torah tradition, which we hold sacrosanct. At the heart of our Jewish values is love — love for God and love for each of His children. Our LGBTQ+ students are our sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, family and friends. Our policies on harassment and discrimination against students on the basis of protected classifications including LGBTQ+ are strong and vigorously enforced. Our Torah-guided decision about this club in no way minimizes the care and sensitivity that we have for each of our students, nor the numerous steps the university has already taken. We are actively engaged with our students, faculty and rabbinic leaders to facilitate productive discussions with an eye toward understanding and embracing diverse perspectives.”


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Yitz
Yitz
2 years ago

As an extremely open minded orthodox person I accept Jews of all types and traditions however I do not believe the lgbt community should impose their agenda on yeshiva universitie as the schools base of belief is on the Torah which opposes tat type of lifestyle having said that maybe it is in their best interest not to solicit certain public funding

Maven
Maven
2 years ago

How about forming a club of “orthodox” shrimp and ham eaters?
Or “orthodox” Shabbos desecraters?

Also, can anyone explain why would anyone want the world to know what they are doing in the bedroom?

Gays are begging everyone to know that they are gay.
ואת זכר לא תשכב משכבי אשה תועבה היא

abba
abba
2 years ago

This is where Yeshiva University needs to choose between right and left. The issue is, in the modern orthodox world the distinction between the two can get hazy due to the diversity of the crowd.

I wish them luck and hope they stick to their principles.

(brings back nostalgia from early 90’s when R’ Gifter made this very point)

Tyler
Tyler
2 years ago

How can you be Orthodox and practice LGBT it’s an oxymoron
it’s like the missionaries who claim to preach Judaism while accepting JC

upsetpostcollegegrad
upsetpostcollegegrad
2 years ago

As someone who lives in the neighborhood of YU, I am horrified by what’s been going on. This is such a tremendous chillul Hashem. My heart goes out to all the genuine talmudim and bochurim who either attend YU or already graduated. There are fewer and fewer people from my generation who understand how important the letter of the law is, and nobody takes an aggressive stance, or even values tradition. We must daven that Hashem helps our dwindling numbers of Torah-observant Jews.

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 years ago

Isn’t America the greatest or not? Where else can you sue the Eybishter? Bais Din was mater this law suit? I look forward to the comics everyday in the zeitung, Yasher Koach

Tzvi
Tzvi
2 years ago

Rav Soloveitchik predicted this decades ago (I think it was at a Chag HaSemichah speech in 1970). It was over the issue of taking government funds. Rav Gifter mentioned this issue in the 1980s. Perhaps now YU is going to have to make a very painful choice.

ahyid
ahyid
2 years ago

Giving this long statement is unwarranted. This plays right into their hands because it makes it a personal issue. All they should be saying is we are Orthodox Jews and we follow the Torah. This would make it a religious issue. The problem with the menulivalim is they are in your face and try to force their way of life into the mainstream.

stamnamefortrump
stamnamefortrump
2 years ago

Imagine being so evil you go to a yeshiva by choice and complain they don’t accept your sins

frumee
frumee
2 years ago

This also goes to show that there is no such thing/concept as Modern Orthodox. Its frum or non frum, that is it. Hard to hear but completely true.

frumee
frumee
2 years ago

Hashem Yerachiem, look where the YU hashkofo took them. The briskeh Ziedes are turning over, thats what happens when you stray and change even a tiny bit from your hashkaffah.

Triumphinwhitehouse
Triumphinwhitehouse
2 years ago

YU employs plenty of anti Zionist chareidim who back in their black hat communities laugh at the “ modernisha”

Sigh
Sigh
2 years ago

>>> This also goes to show that there is no such thing/concept as Modern Orthodox.

There’s no such thing as “Chareidi” either.

None of these labels have any meaning. They simply partition Jews without benefit.

What is useful is what you find in the sefarim:
— Shomer Shabbat
— Chaver (wrt tahara/tumah)
— Toraso umanuso, kovea ittim, etc.
— etc.

These terms all refer to actual behavior, not membership in some fuzzy-membership group.

The issue at hand is NOT about being “Modern”.
It’s about kedushah vs. kesef.
Now make a decision.

gbig
gbig
2 years ago

Live by the law or stop taking public money. EZ choice.

Not Surprised
Not Surprised
2 years ago

Remember when calling someone Gay was an insult?

Jonny
Jonny
2 years ago

Can anyone, please, explain to me the difference between “Frum” and “modern orthodox.” I would appreciate it so that I can understand these postings better.

Shmuel
Shmuel
2 years ago

YU is going to fold. Moderns always do.