JERUSALEM (VINnews) — Senior charedi officials said Thursday that charedi political leaders are beginning to realize that, amid the public protests against the judicial reform, it will not be possible to approve a conscription law as stipulated in the coalition agreement.
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Kikar Hashabbat reported that Defense Minister Yoav Gallant met with senior members of the charedi parties and explained to them that the rift in Israeli society prevents the promotion of a law in consonance with charedim demands.
Gallant cited the warnings of senior officials at the General Staff and the IDF Personnel Directorate that secular parents could refuse to send their sons and daughters to the army as long as the government enacts a conscription law in the spirit currently being proposed.
“We listened to Galant, we didn’t agree, but we understood that there was a problem. Gallant is not [Yisrael Beytenu chair MK Avigdor] Liberman, he does not act with hostility to the haredim,” a haredi official was quoted as saying.
According to current indications, the charedi parties will advance a law based on the outline agreed upon in the coalition agreements in the Netanyahu-Gantz unity government.
The proposed law would include recruitment targets and economic sanctions alongside targets for haredim entering the job market. This would be markedly different from the law discussed by the current coalition, which would have included a basic law on the importance of Torah study and exemption from service at a younger age than currently accepted, as well as offering extra incentives for those who serve.
Don’t we learn in the Torah, that people had to serve. What gives.
This is Israel’s real underlaying problem, its black horse. One day the not frummer will refuse to serve if the Charedim don’t go. When that time comes, and it will come – what happens? End of Israel?
They could open yeshivas, even co-ed ones, hang around there during the day, study for some degree at night and at 23 can join the work force. Not long in coming.
I don’t know why Charedim can’t serve in the FRUM Nachal Brigade, after all, saving a life is like saving the entire world or/and KEEPING the entire TORAH.
There has to be a way to explain to Chilonim that’s it’s not their son that goes into Jenin at 2am that keeps Israel safe but it’s the men standing outside the Bais Medrash drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes that are the true protectors of Israel.
Any ideas how to approach them?
So foolish! Eliminate the draft for Chareidim and watch 70 – 90% of the phony draft dodging Yeshivos close down (as happened in the post Viet Nam era in Brooklyn). Everyone starts going to work including the fake Roshei Yeshiva who no longer will have a following and will lose their bully pulpit.
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We will then have Ehrliche learners She-Torasam Umnasam making us proud,
they should change to a paid army by choice like in most countries
What a loaded topic. The push for all chareidi boys and men to learn exclusively, forever, isn’t ground in reality or even Torah. This is an old reaction to the army being hostile to frumkeit, let alone chareidim. With the demographics changing, and with the need for younger chareidi men to choose going to work, and getting the training for it, the whole wholesale army exemption needs to be reworked. Gantz and Gallant may not be hostile, but the rabbanim must insist that the prevalent attitudes in the army, which cause enough dati boys and girls to go off, has to change. Good luck.
The big thing is that by 24 you can go to work without fighting in the army. Israel has to build a Lakewood like system where Torah is the ikkur but many go to work too when needed
The IDF is shmad. Look at the DL crowd where 40% become mehalel shabbos after serving.
“The proposed law would include recruitment targets and economic sanctions alongside targets for haredim entering the job market. This would be markedly different from the law discussed by the current coalition, which would have included a basic law on the importance of Torah study and exemption from service at a younger age than currently accepted, as well as offering extra incentives for those who serve.”
Drafting even one chareidi is a non-starter, as that as shmad. Incentivizing them to serve is incentivizing shmad. Anything other than a blanket exemption of chareidim is a violation of the agreement that the first Zionist premier, David Green SR”Y, made with Agudah in return for Agudah’s support of the Zionist State.
Having chareidim in the Zionist parliament is really a chillul Hashem. It was first permitted only for specific reasons and under specific conditions. How sad that the chareidim cannot defend Hashem and His Torah and demand from the wicked Zionists that they immediately cease all recruitment efforts among chareidim – and on top of that, they don’t leave the Zionist shmad government.