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Poland – A Neturei Karta Austrian Jew who embraced Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, was assaulted by a group of Israelis.
Moshe Aryeh Friedman, who attended the Holocaust denial conference hosted by Ahmadinejad in Tehran in December, was spotted while visiting Poland for the 220th Yarzheit of Rabbi Elimelech Zt"l in Lizensk.
A group of fervently Orthodox Jews from Israel also touring the sites set upon Friedman, who was born and raised in Monroe, N.Y. in the Village of Kiryas Joel
"We gave him a good beating, the kind we have not given in a long time," a member of the Israeli group, Yehuda Meshi-Zahav, said. "We took off his coat and hat, so he would not look like a Jew." Meshi-Zahav, who is one of the founders of the Israeli volunteer emergency service ZAKA, was later honored with a special Torah reading in the synagogue. [JTA]
MOshe Rabeinu stopped Doson and Avirom hitting each other even though he called them reshoim. There is no place in Yiddishkeit for physical violence just for the sake of violence. A roideif is chayav misoh to prevent him killing someone else – and only if there is no other way to stop him! We do not agree with what the NK do and we abhor their actions but this is not a carte blanche to become a vilde chaye
who is Y meshi zahav really I know he has zakaa But can anyone tell me his full history and agenda
this is my input on the nussens out there as a naturel human the nk started out like nice people calling for protest and not only satmar but many chasidim or even litvich people joined with them in the late 70’s and 80’s because every body agreed that the isreali goverment unearthed tzadikims burial grounds and any protest at those sites was met with severe punishment by the mishtara. we all agree the problem arises when they go to iran and give the blessing for the destuction of isreal and we all know by joining the nk we give the imas oholam the ok to anialete the jews r’l. it’s like feeling pity for a child molester and the problem gets worse and by the he is in the old age their are thousends of inocent victims so to the nosons out there re think who you are joining thank you.
So long as this nut chants his anti-zionist routine there will be people like Nusen around to defend him no matter what he says or does. He could build new gas chambers for the rest of us and the Nusens of the world would defend him because they are so worked up over zionism that no other problem matters.
But don’t worry, Nusen is not gone for good. Guys like him are a fungus like athletes foot. They are annoying, can’t do much damage, and you never really get rid of either of them, but it wouldn’t be worth cutting off your feet over it either.
the nk have nuclear misiles aiming on the states why do we care that one of them got a beating.
well, why doesnt the Mosad take care of this traitor?
they should poisen him as they usually do to all enemies of state..
I think Mashi Zoo-hav should be FIRED from ZAKA.
After all he’s in the search and rescue business and not an anarchist.
Uncivilized barbarians: continue to condone this attack. Teach your children well. Teach them that this is the way you treat people who don’t always agree with your beliefs. Teach them that this is the way to resolve issues.
I bet Meshi-Zahav did what he always does by terrorist attacks, gets blood on his gloves then goes to talk to the media.
shame on you all. you are no better than him except that you hide your violent natures behind anonymous comments on a blog. from the way you are talking it is questionable whether or not you fit into the three character traits that show a yid to be a yid.
while we cannot condone violence, i could tell you it wasnt enough!
How bad did they beat the rodef? I hope they BEAT HIM TO A PULP!
such tzaros, it’s just mamish shreklach! nebich,nebich,nebich,nebich on klal yisrael, is all i could say. we mamish neeeeeed the geulah speedily in our days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i cannot be maasik that a jewish person would go and shake hands with an iranian official and deny the holocaust. it’s just unbelipable! it’s also sad. everybody, please daven to hashem that the geulah should come quickly so we shouldn’t have anymore tzaros.
what a chilul hashem!
I think this is a good start
NUSEN is not leaving for good.
he will be back.
like a ‘mishlachas vehchozreh’
NUSEN is 100% right,
We are torah bound Jews, therefore one cannot do what ever he feels like doing, or whatever his conscious tells him to do.
What bothers me here, is that the guy who hit him is no better then him.
He deserves the same medicine he gave his friend.
Rebbe ELIMELECH ZTA 221;L dont agree to hit any yid as he rite in HANHUGAS HA.ODOM #8 to love every yid and not to hate any Jew .
Rebbe ELIMELECH ZTA 221;L dont agree to hit any yid as he rite in HANHUGAS HA.ODOM #8 to love every yid and not to hate any Jew .
the rebbe elimeilech promised anyone who goes to his kever will do teshuvah before he or she goes up to shamayim. the reason why they did not kill him is bacause he has a long way to go before teshuvah. first he must denouse iran on the media the same media he used to publicly kiss them. and then we could talk teshuva.
Even the neturei-karta regard this guy as a shmock!
Is there any picture of the beating?
I think that mashe zuhov should get arrested and the key thrown away, he is a dangers person, he should be expeled from zaka! Looks like he was looking for work there to have blood to clean up and be a hero “KOL HAMIREM YAD NIKRU RUSHE”.
If someone kills beshogeg even the person that got killed deserved to be killed it still says MEGALGELIN CHOVU AL YDY CHAYOV. Even that crazy guy deserves to be beaten mashe zuhuv is still a ROTSIACH!.
I am not defending those iranen chasidim but the zionist are in fault of killing of jews world wide with there instigating anti semitism now and by the holucust as Rabbi Weissmandel writes in his sefer. READ the book perfidy. The zionist don’t want friedman to go in compotion with them they are the only ones to shed jewish blood
NUSEN—Good bye——————-
I guess you can all share the pills with him……
Like by pinchas, kanoim pogim bo. you can’t get approval from beis din for such things (also as there would be no beis din to rule such a thing, and one of our dear “anon’s” will have what to report the police on). but anyway, that is the mere proper thing to do to a yid that is mechalel shem shomayim borabim, a case that according to halacha “hocheach tochiach” does not apply, see in the rambam for more details.
this is it for me, i am leaving this site for good!
i thought i am here on this site among yiden, but its my mistake, not only not yiden, but anti Semitic people.
or maybe just the Zionist regime.
its a shame.
Was Daas Torah consulted before this attack on a fellow Jew?
No. So despite all the attempted justifications, there are none. Not even with the silly zionist comments that he isn’t Jewish, (since you must be zionist to be Jewish apparently?)
Anon2:16, Once Again You Engage The Old And Tired Zionist Tactic Of Engaging In An Ad Hominem Attack When Your Argument Fails.
Ok now that we got the yogies to get violent are we gonna sit around and wait while the nuts in iran and every other terrorist group in the world threatens to kill us whether we are in Israel or anyone else?
I might agree to the fact that he want suppose to be beaten (even if he deserves it) my suggestion is for the fact that hes causing such a chilul hashem in the world for all of us the next one that has the the gutz to dio whats right should cut off his beard and peyus he doesnt respect that and then he wont represent us he can just dress up like a muslim and continue with theyre colt for all that i care.
There is no shayla, kasha, etc. about hitting another yid.
He is not jewish.
he may have been circumcised but they did not take off enuff.
there is no difference of opinion. My opinion counts:
Kick in his face until he bleeds to
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This guy should still not got sympathy from any yid
ANN 2.04 You don’t mean KASHA
you mean SHAYLA
KASHA YOU EAT SHAYLA is a query
ANY BEN TORAH KNOWS THAT
Learn the sugya, if a rodef is around you have to act at once, not wait for a beis din to pasken.
Anonymous said…
Anon1:24, Obviously My Writing Style Got Your Attention, As Well As Many Others. And You Like Your Zionist Ilk Can’t Respond To A Valid Point, So You Merely Engage In An Ad Hominem Attack.
March 12, 2007 2:07 PM
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“Ad Hominem Attack”.
Now THAT is some fancy writing. I am very impressed.
If I need to explain to you why kicking this guys butt was the right thing to do explaining it won’t help.
Only a simple yid can understand it.
Anon1:24, Obviously My Writing Style Got Your Attention, As Well As Many Others. And You Like Your Zionist Ilk Can’t Respond To A Valid Point, So You Merely Engage In An Ad Hominem Attack.
Anon 1:57 –
The kasha is can you find a Rav who will pasken like that?
Anonymous said…
GIB A KIK these ZIONIST THUGS attack an ORNTLICHA YID in Poland of all places in front on the concentration camps.
OOPS I FORGOT ACCORDING TO
netirei karta
THERE WERE NO CONCENTATION CAMPS
SORRY THEY SHOULD OF THROWN INTO
de mikva and he should never have come up
March 12, 2007 1:51 PM
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perfect!
OK, time to stop twisting our thumbs and curling our beards on this one.
It is very simple and only a someone much dumber or much smarter than the aveage person can have a problem with this.
The reason he deserved the beating is because he went to Teheran for the Holocaust Denial conference.
That is the poshut p’shat.
I challange you to find one alta heimesheh yid who will have a problem with this guy getting kicked around a little bit.
There is no kashah about how yiddin can do that to him. The kashah is on those yiddin who have a problem with it.
To Anon 1:51 PM
Thanks, and well said
GIB A KIK these ZIONIST THUGS attack an ORNTLICHA YID in Poland of all places in front on the concentration camps.
OOPS I FORGOT ACCORDING TO
netirei karta
THERE WERE NO CONCENTATION CAMPS
SORRY THEY SHOULD OF THROWN INTO
de mikva and he should never have come up
Beating him creates a worse Chilul Hashem than his going to Iran. You can put him in Cheirim, ostracize him from the community, etc. But beating him is completely illegal, and only leads to people saying Jews act like animals. If we beat up those who do things we are against, how are we better than he Muslims? Did a Beis Din decide he should be beaten? Did any court decide that? Until one does, he should be left alone. Just ignore him.
There is no Psak from any Bes Din that he is a rodef.
And you can’t be a posek on this alone.
Also this guy was ready to kill him, you hade to see how bad condition he was.
Someone isn’t a rodef because he went to Iran. You have to be nuts.
you guys are wrong..
Hake es Shinav.. that is only way to answer a rosho
The man is a rodef. Beacuse of his actions and the actions of others who attended the conference, there are jewish lives being put in danger. They are enablers of the President of Iran who if given the chance, would slaughter millions of jews.
The last time I checked a rodef is deserving of alot more than just a beating.
Anonymous said…
you cant do this with out a Bet Din approval
March 12, 2007 1:30 PM
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Now that I know you’d call a bais din for a psak before calling the police, if I ever become a thief I’ll be sure to make your house my first target.
Nusen said…
everyone is instilled to his opinion, and the same with him.
He didn’t raise his hands on anyone, he was just expressing his opinion
March 12, 2007 1:24 PM
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There you go again with your purim toirah! You wrote that everyone is instilled to his opinion.
Is that ‘ad d’lo yoda’ talk for everyone is entitled to my distilled opinion?
Next you will be matir lashon horah and rechilus and mesirah because everyone is ‘instilled to his opinion’.